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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 02 Jul 2015, 2:46 am

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It begins for the English today as West Ham face FC Lusitans in front of a sold out Upton Park this evening. The team will be a bit mixed. Randolph, O'Brien, Tomkins, Burke, Page. Jarvis, Oxford, Poyet, Amalfitano. Zarate, Sakho.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:20 pm

Arsenal letting England down.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:21 pm

Not for long! Theo Walcott actually scoring in Europe.

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:24 pm

Now Chelsea letting England down Laugh

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:25 pm

Now everyone letting England down Laugh


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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:26 pm

Indeed. Arsenal again now as well.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:33 pm

poor by casillas getting beat on his near post, real pet hate of mine that. whats the point of the wall from that range if hes going to stand behind it anyway

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:37 pm

If you think that's poor go watch the Olympiakos 2nd goal fella Laugh Oh dear oh dear.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:38 pm

Lovely free kick by Willian.

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Post by Hero Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:41 pm

Fernando wrote:If you think that's poor go watch the Olympiakos 2nd goal fella Laugh Oh dear oh dear.

Ospina wtf

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:54 pm

Hero wrote:
Fernando wrote:If you think that's poor go watch the Olympiakos 2nd goal fella Laugh Oh dear oh dear.

Ospina wtf

I can see why it happened he feared he was gunna carry it into the goal and dropped it asap, it wouldn't of happened if started with a decent position though.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 8:55 pm

Chelsea's turn.!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:04 pm

How did arsenal not score there!

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Post by CFCNick Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:06 pm

I hate that. Steve McManaman saying Hazard should have dived. Yeah, that's gonna teach kids listening a great habit. Muppet.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:10 pm

Arsenal Laugh

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:13 pm

Cambiasso is still class. No idea why an English side didn't grab him in the summer. Arsenal could really do with him

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Post by CFCNick Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:27 pm

Matic and Ivanovic can Frak off. Both think they're Frak Superman.

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:29 pm

Ivanovic has made 9 tackles against Brahimi and missed the lot Laugh

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:32 pm

Chelsea denied a blatant penalty. Eve Phil Thompson is fuming. Bad night for English clubs Laugh

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Post by Guest Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:34 pm

embarrassing from the ref, but really our sides are just pony, have been for a long time in europe.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:38 pm

3-2 down at home, moment your team needs you the most - The Emirates is half empty.

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Post by Hero Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:39 pm

It's okay Arsenal, it's only the two games v Bayern Munich next in Europe.

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Post by Guest Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:39 pm

Lewandowski from Bayern Munich has scored another hat trick.  He must be the most inform striker in Europe.  Bayern Munich remain undefeated this season.  Arsenal can't expect to get anything against them on their current form.


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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:40 pm

Best league in the world

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Post by Hero Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:40 pm

Olly wrote:3-2 down at home, moment your team needs you the most - The Emirates is half empty.

Arsenal fans stink

Not like they'd make much noise if it was full tbh.

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Post by Hero Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:41 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Best league in the world

Most entertaining, probably. Best is debatable.

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Post by Fernando Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:43 pm

Ah well only Man Utd next, If United don't win that they should be ashamed Laugh

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Post by CFCNick Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:46 pm

Even when we were winning I was peed off with all the fancy flicks and soft touches when they do not work. I just want this team to play like they used to. Playing defensive and tough works better for us.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Tue 29 Sep 2015, 9:49 pm

My boy Robert Lewandowski is on fire!!! BVB Dortmund up next!!

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Post by Guest Tue 29 Sep 2015, 10:01 pm

There is a suggestion that for the 2016/2017 season there might be only three champions league places available for English teams to play for due to the points system that currently gives England an additional place. So although for this season the "top four" still has meaning, for the following season it might be a "top three" for champions league places.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 29 Sep 2015, 10:05 pm

Nore Staat wrote:There is a suggestion that for the 2016/2017 season there might be only three champions league places available for English teams to play for due to the points system that currently gives England an additional place.  So although for this season the "top four" still has meaning, for the following season it might be a "top three" for champions league places.

Unlikely cos the Italian teams are just as bad as ours
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Post by Hero Tue 29 Sep 2015, 10:12 pm

Yeah they only got to the Final last year.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 29 Sep 2015, 10:18 pm

Hero wrote:Yeah they only got to the Final last year.

Living in the past - what are you a Liverpool fan
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Post by Hero Tue 29 Sep 2015, 10:37 pm

No, just someone that understands how the UEFA coefficient rankings work.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 29 Sep 2015, 10:56 pm

It's actually a straight shoot out between the two countries this year, taking out the 11/12 season they're pretty much level, would imagine it will require Juventus to massively outperform all four English side which seems unlikely.

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Post by kingraf Wed 30 Sep 2015, 6:55 am

The fact that at 27 Lewandowski has learnt that he has a left boot is proof that you are never too old to learn
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Post by monty junior Wed 30 Sep 2015, 8:23 am

Douglas Costa's really surprised me at Bayern, he is fantastic!

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 30 Sep 2015, 9:11 am

kingraf wrote:The fact that at 27 Lewandowski has learnt that he has a left boot is proof that you are never too old to learn

Tell that to Antonio Valencia.
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Post by Guest Wed 30 Sep 2015, 9:14 am

Be amazed if Ivanovic & Fabregas, the new Chelsea pensioners, are at the club next season.

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Post by monty junior Wed 30 Sep 2015, 3:52 pm

For a team that spends hundreds of millions you'd really expect them to have more skill and style that just get everyone behind the goal against decent opposition and hope for a stroke of luck/genius on the counter! English team's are playing dinosaur football, the problem is they are told it's the best league, style etc so i get the impression they think these teams will just role over. What usually happens is that they are just as good as them, then the managers just blame bad luck all the time. 

Some head's need to role as the performances for the money they've spent have to be the worst in Europe. 5 out of 6 losses against mainly dud teams bar Porto and Juventus is so poor.

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Post by Ent Wed 30 Sep 2015, 4:12 pm

Got to have some respect for other teams/leagues. They are good sides and are used to winning regularly.

Things go In peaks and troughs, pl is going through a blip currently. It will come back to prominence again.

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Post by kingraf Wed 30 Sep 2015, 4:28 pm

I think it's a case of The Law of Diminishing Returns really. If you accept that Barca, Real and Bayern snatch the absolute best talent, then EPL clubs are paying way above odds for players who simply aren't that much better than the ones plying their trade in Europe. Okay, so not exactly the law of Diminishing Returns, but you get the drift.
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Post by Guest Wed 30 Sep 2015, 4:32 pm

I think you can call it more than a blip, that it's got to the stage, whereby we're now worried about coefficients. People used to laugh when people started to say coefficients, now it's a reality, thanks to this prolonged, woeful set of performances & results, that our top 4 have consistently produced & continue to churn out. Not sure we can safely say it will come back to prominence, if players like Suarez, Bale & many more exit the Premier League & are replaced by inferior players, who are unable to produce in the group stages of the Champions League.


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Post by monty junior Wed 30 Sep 2015, 4:43 pm

I notice a lot of people within the English game just blindly still churn out it's the best league in the world or the most competitive just because they simply no next to nothing about other leagues. The level of knowledge from these "football pundits" when they sum up the CL highlights is incredibly bad, they pretty much know Bayern,Barca,Real and PSG and have absolutely no clue about the rest so don't even comment on the matches. 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34373694

I mean you have Kilbane saying Man City will get out of their group easily when they have lost their first game at home and have two sides as good as them in the group who are both already on 3 points. You then have Lawrenson saying Man United will easily beat Wolfsburg, these things could happen but there is nothing more than blind faith and arrogance in these predictions! Only to blurt out the same drivel at the end when they inevietably go out early and blame it on the toughness and "no easy games of the premier league". I'll tell you if the big 3 played in the EPL they'd have plenty of easy games but the top teams are so mediocre they can lose to anyone. Not that it's unbelievably competitive.

I think it's a great league and watch it all the time but the media, fans and pundits really have to get their heads out the sand, Serie A dominated the 90s and broke world transfer records repeatedly, now look at it.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 30 Sep 2015, 6:50 pm

The Premier League being so strong throughout does make it harder for the top teams to flourish in Europe; the likes of Bayern, Barca, the Madrids, PSG and Juve have far more easy games to play than Chelsea or City.

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Post by monty junior Wed 30 Sep 2015, 7:08 pm

Never just figured though that those top teams are just better than the English ones so can therefor dispose of them easier?! I mean if the league is so strong why do the teams do nothing in the Europa League either, to me it's just the constant excuses about physicality, depth whatever with no real proof to back it up over other leagues. Having said that if you play kick and rush football with a lot of running your naturally more tired, that's why the European teams place more emphasis on technique rather than trying to win with power and energy.

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Post by Hero Wed 30 Sep 2015, 7:51 pm

Utd carrying on immediately where Arsenal and Chelsea left off last night.

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Post by Guest Wed 30 Sep 2015, 7:52 pm

Wolfsburg take the lead, awful defending

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Post by Hero Wed 30 Sep 2015, 7:53 pm

Very much shows why Valencia isn't a fullback.

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Post by Hero Wed 30 Sep 2015, 8:15 pm

This is looking a mirror of the PSV game, Utd should be ahead but somehow behind.

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Post by Hero Wed 30 Sep 2015, 8:20 pm

1-1 Mata penalty

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