UEFA Champions and Europa League 2015/16 Thread

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:46 am

First topic message reminder :

It begins for the English today as West Ham face FC Lusitans in front of a sold out Upton Park this evening. The team will be a bit mixed. Randolph, O'Brien, Tomkins, Burke, Page. Jarvis, Oxford, Poyet, Amalfitano. Zarate, Sakho.

by Guest Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:26 pm

Voted by fellow professionals, not the fans, so no surprise.

by compelling and rich Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:41 pm

lolz at mignolet

fair play for the ref giving it, very rarely see it but must had had it for about 15 seconds

by compelling and rich Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:43 pm

bbc reporting it at 20 seconds Laugh

even then he just hides behind the wall

by **Crimey** Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:46 pm

What an idiot. Inexcusable. It's just so incredibly stupid.

by **Crimey** Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:53 pm

Good goal that

by NickisBHAFC Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:11 pm

Harry Kane.

Let the haters hate

by lfc91 Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:00 pm

Not a great performance by any means. However, we are through so a positive there. Poor mistake from mignolet and IMO a poor decision to give a penalty. Our relative struggles at anfield continue it seems.

by Fernando Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:37 pm

Citeh Team to play Monchengladbach: Hart, Clichy, Mangala, Otamendi, Kolarov, Delph, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Toure, Silva, Sterling

United Team to play Wolfsburg: De Gea, Varela, Smalling, Blind, Darmian, Fellaini, Schweinstiger, Lingaard,Mata,Depay & Martial

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:57 pm

united lead 0-1

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:01 pm

1-1 in germany

by Fernando Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:04 pm

1-1 at the Emptihad aswell.

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:16 pm

the end of LVG

by Duty281 Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:18 pm

Superb goal for Wolfsburg. United totally dismantled.

by Fernando Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:18 pm

I doubt it.

This is United Liam, When sh*t hits the fan they come out golden somehow (Cue CSKA beating PSV)

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:26 pm

How the fudge did Draxler not score a third for Wolfsburg!!!!

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:30 pm

Wow Manchester United's injury crisis claims another victim, Darmian has pulled a hamstring.

by spencerclarke Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:38 pm

It was offside but why does it take a wolfsburg player telling the officials to make them change the decision?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:40 pm

Can't believe the official didn't flag in the first place, one of the more obvious offside calls you'll ever get

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:51 pm

spencerclarke wrote:It was offside but why does it take a wolfsburg player telling the officials to make them change the decision?

Pressure from the Wolfsburg players...

by Lowlandbrit Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:00 pm

Fernando wrote:(Cue CSKA beating PSV)

I wouldn't worry too much about that, they've been pretty uninspiring so far.

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:00 pm

malmo doing their best to get ronaldo to 100 champions league goals, before messi

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:18 pm

papering over the gigantic cracks. typical united

by Lowlandbrit Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:19 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:
Fernando wrote:(Cue CSKA beating PSV)
I wouldn't worry too much about that, they've been pretty uninspiring so far.

One (slightly soft) CSKA penalty later, do you have any lotto numbers?

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:20 pm

yesssss psv equaliser

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:21 pm

The long lost Nick Powell makes his first team return at the most pivotal stage of Manchester United's season...

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:22 pm

haha luuk de jong, couldn't hit a barn door at st. james'

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:26 pm

Felliani earning an own goal from Wolfsburg!!!

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:27 pm

united are going through as it stands

by Lowlandbrit Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:27 pm

2-1 PSV

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:27 pm

hahahahah wolfsburg lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:28 pm

united are gone. goodnight

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:28 pm

3-2 Wolfsburg

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:29 pm

All the lolz

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:30 pm

united fans, clear your thursday nights

by Jermaine2015 Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:32 pm

I guess Louis van Gaal was correct when he said Manchester Unitedd couldn't win the Champions League...

by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:39 pm

top 3 in the league (not having to qualify in august) & winning the fa cup, must be the absolute minimum for LVG, to say that is progress

by GSC Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:15 pm

In the end CSKA were closer to putting United through than United.

This was not a hard group at all, United have to take a long look at LVGs performance

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm

Got a text message from a colleague at the Etihad at half time......."Tell Liverpool they can have Sterling back !!" laughing

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:45 am

With regard to LVG, with a proven track record, he has already made it clear that he is not going to stay much longer than three years and the next manager will be Ryan Giggs. So the main issue for LVG is to get Man Utd's squad up to scratch so that it is again a regular top four team that can challenge for the title and to bring on Giggs so that he is ready to manage at the very highest of levels.

Alex Ferguson despite the dominance of his reign only managed to win the Championship League twice and both times in unconvincing circumstances: one an injury time turn around from a 1-0 losing position, another 6-5 on penalties.

by spencerclarke Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:41 am

Only a trophy this season will now be good enough. You can't spend the money he has, cut the squad down and complain about injuries. Sad thing was this is was one of the few enjoyable games to watch. United didn't go out because of tonight though. It was inept team selections and style of play earlier in the group.

by sirfredperry Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:04 am

it could be argued that Untd's defensiveness started after their 6-1 home defeat against Manchester City a few years back. Fergie was furious they had chased the game the game with only 10 men, had conceded three late goals and then lost the title on goal difference to their near neighbours.
The last Fergie teams were somewhat shot shy and were sustained by the excellent goalscoring of RVP.
Moyes and LVG simply inherited an average team - one that had lost its swagger.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:13 am

United's fixtures after the Europa league games, the further they go, are pretty shocking, with away matches at City, plus games three days after against Arsenal & Tottenham.

LVG claiming 'United are getting better'. Total delusion. Everton beat Wolfsbury twice last season too. He also slammed Schweinsteiger for not being the same Schweinsteiger he knew before. Yes, well Louis, there's a reason a genuine top manager got rid of him in the first place out of Munich, because his legs were gone, what were you thinking or expecting. £14m.....mugs!

They just did a comparison with Moyes, at least David Moyes got United to the semi final of the League cup & the quarter final of the champions league. LVG's fall back is always the league position, not sure how much longer that excuse will be enough to keep him going.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:37 pm

Utd are getting better............They have a good chance of winning the premiership.....

by Hammersmith harrier Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:38 pm

sirfredperry wrote:it could be argued that Untd's defensiveness started after their 6-1 home defeat against Manchester City a few years back. Fergie was furious they had chased the game the game with only 10 men, had conceded three late goals and then lost the title on goal difference to their near neighbours.
The last Fergie teams were somewhat shot shy and were sustained by the excellent goalscoring of RVP.
Moyes and LVG simply inherited an average team - one that had lost its swagger.

We were ultra attacking in Fergie's last season, we quite literally had the motta of you score one we'll score two.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:49 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
sirfredperry wrote:it could be argued that Untd's defensiveness started after their 6-1 home defeat against Manchester City a few years back. Fergie was furious they had chased the game the game with only 10 men, had conceded three late goals and then lost the title on goal difference to their near neighbours.
The last Fergie teams were somewhat shot shy and were sustained by the excellent goalscoring of RVP.
Moyes and LVG simply inherited an average team - one that had lost its swagger.

We were ultra attacking in Fergie's last season, we quite literally had the motta of you score one we'll score two.

LVG has spent a quarter of a billion pounds - inheriting a bad squad (wasn't even that bad) really isn't any excuse.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:56 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Utd are getting better............They have a good chance of winning the premiership.....

No, the league (at the top) has got worse, making it appear United have improved, when they haven't.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:14 pm

Olly wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
sirfredperry wrote:it could be argued that Untd's defensiveness started after their 6-1 home defeat against Manchester City a few years back. Fergie was furious they had chased the game the game with only 10 men, had conceded three late goals and then lost the title on goal difference to their near neighbours.
The last Fergie teams were somewhat shot shy and were sustained by the excellent goalscoring of RVP.
Moyes and LVG simply inherited an average team - one that had lost its swagger.

We were ultra attacking in Fergie's last season, we quite literally had the motta of you score one we'll score two.

LVG has spent a quarter of a billion pounds - inheriting a bad squad (wasn't even that bad) really isn't any excuse.

The squad was awful when Fergie left but the chances are he'd have won the league with it again; a lot of the players were too ingrained with his way of thinking so an overhaul was always going to be needed. I do hold him up on a pedestal but he was simply irreplaceable, you can replace a mercenary manager with another mercenary but you can't replace the embodiment of the team and it's culture with anyone.

LVG is doing a poor job considering the outlay but until the lingering shadow of Fergie disappears I don't see us progressing, I initially thought Giggs hanging about was a good idea but he's just another reminder of the better days and is at odds with the new philosophy.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:13 pm

Arsenal doing what they should of done in the first game between these two. Olympiacos are shocking

by socal1976 Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:52 pm

Giroud with his first hat trick and the evil empire out of the Champions league. What a great day for football. LVG has ruined both his reputation and doomed United to mediocrity in the short term at least. I have never seen team spend so much on players the last couple of years while being so poor. I mean failing is one thing but spending huge bags of money to fail is another thing.

As for the gunners they really made it hard for themselves but without Santi and Alexis this is a great performance. Also good to see og and theo playing together I think this could be a setup we use more in the future. Ransey has a goal and an assist in his last two matches moving into his natural position. The much maligned Ozil is head and shoulders the best playmaker in Europe this season. Where is john to celebrate his favorite players hat trick?

by Mad for Chelsea Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:58 pm

good effort from Arsenal tonight, made it hard for themselves with the shocker at home to Olympiakos, and to a lesser degree the defeat in Zagreb (the performance in Munich was poor, but the result expected). Guess they would like Zenit or Wolfsburg in the next round, Atletico at a pinch. Obviously Barca and Real the teams they'd like to avoid.

Chelsea were better tonight, not vintage Chelsea but signs they are moving in the right direction. Finishing still a big issue really, lack of goals from open play a concern and should really have scored four or five tonight. Still, hopefully they'll get there in time to rescue something from their season, and at least the desire was there and they looked at times to be genuinely enjoying their football. Juventus and PSG the teams to avoid in the last 16.

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