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England v Argentina, 26 November
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ENGLAND v ARGENTINA
26 November 2016
14:30 GMT (UTC+0)
Twickenham Stadium, London
Live on Sky Sports 1
Referee: Pascal Gauzère (France)
Assistant Referees: Marius Mitrea (Italy), Ian Davies (Wales)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (Wales)
A. Head to Head
19 Played 19
14 Won 4
1 Drawn 1
4 Lost 14
488 Points 282
B. Recent Form
9 November 2013
Twickenham, London
31 – 12 to England
15 June 2013
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
26 – 51 to England
8 June 2013
Estadio Padre Ernesto Martearena, Salta
3 – 32 to England
10 September 2011
Otago Stadium, Dunedin, New Zealand
13 – 9 to England
14 November 2009
Twickenham, London
16 – 9 to England
13 June 2009
Padre Ernesto Martearena, Salta
24 – 22 to Argentina
6 June 2009
Old Trafford, Manchester
37 – 15 to England
11 November 2006
Twickenham, London
18 – 25 to Argentina
C. Teams
ENGLAND
15 Mike Brown, 14 Jonny May, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Owen Farrell, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Wood, 6 Chris Robshaw, 5 George Kruis, 4 Courtney Lawes, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley (c), 1 Mako Vunipola
Replacements: 16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Charlie Ewels, 20 Teimana Harrison,, 21 Danny Care, 22 Ben Te’o, 23 Henry Slade
ARGENTINA
15 Joaquín Tuculet, 14 Matías Orlando, 13 Matías Moroni, 12 Santiago González Iglesias, 11 Santiago Cordero, 10 Juan Martín Hernández, 9 Tomás Cubelli, 8 Leonardo Senatore, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matías Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 Agustín Creevy (c), 1 Lucas Noguera
Replacements: 16 Julián Montoya, 17 Santiago García Botta, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Facundo Isa, 20 Tomas Lezana, 21 Martin Landajo, 22 Jerónimo De la Fuente, 23 Juan Pablo Estelles
ENGLAND v ARGENTINA
26 November 2016
14:30 GMT (UTC+0)
Twickenham Stadium, London
Live on Sky Sports 1
Referee: Pascal Gauzère (France)
Assistant Referees: Marius Mitrea (Italy), Ian Davies (Wales)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (Wales)
A. Head to Head
19 Played 19
14 Won 4
1 Drawn 1
4 Lost 14
488 Points 282
B. Recent Form
9 November 2013
Twickenham, London
31 – 12 to England
15 June 2013
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
26 – 51 to England
8 June 2013
Estadio Padre Ernesto Martearena, Salta
3 – 32 to England
10 September 2011
Otago Stadium, Dunedin, New Zealand
13 – 9 to England
14 November 2009
Twickenham, London
16 – 9 to England
13 June 2009
Padre Ernesto Martearena, Salta
24 – 22 to Argentina
6 June 2009
Old Trafford, Manchester
37 – 15 to England
11 November 2006
Twickenham, London
18 – 25 to Argentina
C. Teams
ENGLAND
15 Mike Brown, 14 Jonny May, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Owen Farrell, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Wood, 6 Chris Robshaw, 5 George Kruis, 4 Courtney Lawes, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley (c), 1 Mako Vunipola
Replacements: 16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Charlie Ewels, 20 Teimana Harrison,, 21 Danny Care, 22 Ben Te’o, 23 Henry Slade
ARGENTINA
15 Joaquín Tuculet, 14 Matías Orlando, 13 Matías Moroni, 12 Santiago González Iglesias, 11 Santiago Cordero, 10 Juan Martín Hernández, 9 Tomás Cubelli, 8 Leonardo Senatore, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matías Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 Agustín Creevy (c), 1 Lucas Noguera
Replacements: 16 Julián Montoya, 17 Santiago García Botta, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Facundo Isa, 20 Tomas Lezana, 21 Martin Landajo, 22 Jerónimo De la Fuente, 23 Juan Pablo Estelles
Last edited by George Carlin on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 11:23 am; edited 2 times in total
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Re: England v Argentina, 26 November
Just keep going lads!
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Actually Harrison is clearing and tackling well. Close in.
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Great scrum
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another yellow for the Arg.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:Great scrum
that was a statement from the fresh guys I think.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:Actually Harrison is clearing and tackling well. Close in.
that's fair, he is now, working hard around the fringe.
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Impact subs... We are going to win this
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well that was good. 14 each and the difference shows.
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England have been te much much much better side all game
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Yyyeeeeessssesssss!!!!!
What spirit from the boys!!!
What spirit from the boys!!!
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trebellbobaggins wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:Great scrum
that was a statement from the fresh guys I think.
Or to do with the others teams subs
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Argentina are a dire team. Its not like England has been unreal with 14. Argentina save 1-2 players is just dire.
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May has had a great game
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I agree Argentina are poor
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Brown is looking dertermined.
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Has the ref spotted anything this game? TMO should take his pay.
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Brown literally throws his toys this time
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actually penalty try england. argentina player is off his feet so can't play ball…or did Brown just drop it
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But its been a good fighting performance by us today....
Even Harrison
Even Harrison
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high tackle off the ball.. no action.
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Yes England have shown a bit of character in a scrappy disjointed sort of a game.
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Illegal tackles in the Brown failed try...
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Dirty argies!!!
Wood and Mako top tacklers good effort.
Wood and Mako top tacklers good effort.
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Te referee had been awful. Lacks conviction, lacks consistency. Don't mind mistakes but I'm not sure what he's adding
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a stamp on the head.
if they allow this then they are a disgrace. the eng red card wasn't intended either.
if they allow this then they are a disgrace. the eng red card wasn't intended either.
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First call referee has gotten right for 70 minutes
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red card for the disgusting arg stamp on the head but Marler yellow carded.
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Once the team settled down to business at 16-14, they looked pretty good. harrison clearly had nerves but straightened up and played well.
However, I credit Daly as creating the inspiration for the game today. Thank you Elliot.
However, I credit Daly as creating the inspiration for the game today. Thank you Elliot.
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just sevens nonsense now basically.
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Well falcons bungle to a win and England put in a great fighting performance!!!
Time for more broon ale!
Have a good weekend everyone!!
Time for more broon ale!
Have a good weekend everyone!!
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Is Brown ok? Looked hurt earlier but might just have been winded
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Sinckler looks better every cap. Coming along very nicely!
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The performance of the back row in general under Jones including the much maligned Wood and Robshaw has been a big positive.
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well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.
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doctor_grey wrote:Once the team settled down to business at 16-14, they looked pretty good. harrison clearly had nerves but straightened up and played well.
However, I credit Daly as creating the inspiration for the game today. Thank you Elliot.
Silver linings huh, I think they've learnt more today than if they had 15 on the pitch
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Not a great game but a good win nonetheless. I wonder who we've got left for the Aussies..
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trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.
Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.
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England were pretty much dominant with 14 men
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:The performance of the back row in general under Jones including the much maligned Wood and Robshaw has been a big positive.
Wood did have a spell looking a bit powder puff, but Robshaw has always been good. The black marks for Robshaw have only come about because of the captaincy decisions that went wrong - which were not even bad decisions as such - just ones which didn't work out.
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Largely because Argentina looked so poor
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mid_gen wrote:Sinckler looks better every cap. Coming along very nicely!
Yep he looked good.
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nathan wrote:trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.
Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.
He's always like that so don't take it seriously. Its his way of not jinxing the team
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ChequeredJersey wrote:First call referee has gotten right for 70 minutes
Ref had an excellent game.
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lostinwales wrote:Hammersmith harrier wrote:The performance of the back row in general under Jones including the much maligned Wood and Robshaw has been a big positive.
Wood did have a spell looking a bit powder puff, but Robshaw has always been good. The black marks for Robshaw have only come about because of the captaincy decisions that went wrong - which were not even bad decisions as such - just ones which didn't work out.
I just think that Lancaster misused Wood a fair bit, tried having him play like Tom Croft whereas Jones just gets the back row to use their physicality, he's looked a lot stronger this autumn.
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maybe the one positive is what that will have done for their defensive nerve.
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lostinwales wrote:nathan wrote:trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.
Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.
He's always like that so don't take it seriously. Its his way of not jinxing the team
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lostinwales wrote:nathan wrote:trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.
Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.
He's always like that so don't take it seriously. Its his way of not jinxing the team
Not taking it seriously, just trying to make him see some positives. Life is so much better with positives. The players will have learnt an awful lot today
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now that is true Nathan. if they have learned more about their defensive game then that is positive.
Aussie have to be favourites next week though by some margin.
Aussie have to be favourites next week though by some margin.
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