It is a bad mistake to close a thread....

[Tenez]

First topic message reminder :

....Because people disagree about tennis matter. Be careful not to over moderate this forum. As far as I could read, there was no insults, no sexism, racial abuse and that should be the only concern of the mods.

We all come from 606 for its good and its bad, most of us would still be there if it wasn;t for its closure.

[Tenez]

I would actually like it alot if people did post about other players or aspects of the game apart from the top 4. Least it would show they have interest in tennis as a sport and not 'fanatics' of certain players

Well clearly, you have not read my many threads I created about how great are/were Ljubicic, Nalbandian, Medvedev, Davydenko (well before he became a star), Youzhny, Coria, Safin, Gasquet, Djokovic, Murray, etc...and.....and .....even Nadal! Despite me not liking the personality of some.

This is why Socal,though on my side, is talking nonsense when he thinks I am a fan of Federer. Federer is simply the most talented, by a mile. That's all I am saying.

And the reason we talk about Nadal and Federer now is that they just happened to be in the final yesterday.

[lydian]

lol HN...thanks for your comment

[socal1976]

Well, lydian I hope you decide to stay you have a lot of good info to contribute. Lets not take this stuff too seriously is my only caution, it is after all just a game. But I do agree that turning every post into an attempt denigrate someone is very counterproductive and irritating. However, I try to take it with a smile, and if the other side takes it too far then the mods should step in. I don't want to see this site get polarized, but we should also not legislate out banter and some fun ribbing from time to time. There are many other people here that have interesting points of view and if someone is getting under your skin just let them make their silly posts and engage others that you respect in discussion. Thats my advice, you can tell me to shove it or get off my soap box. But I still hope you stay.

[Haddie-nuff]

And so say all of us socal

[Tenez]

I'm doing nothing of the sort except having an issue with your posting style which others object too as well.

I am not sure why I should change my style?! I am not paid like Wilander or McEnroe to say nice things about all players.

And my style shoudl not affect you if you are not a fanatic of Nadal. Like I want Catalan Power to join here even though he cant stand Federer. I have no problem with posters talking negatively about players...founded or not.

[Adam D]

Lydian and all others please take note.

We do not want anyone to leave this forum. However, we are not going to pander to peoples threats of walking if people arent dealt with.

We have rules in place and we aim to enforce them.

If someone is acting in a wum fashion, then they will be dealt with.

We have made the rules quite clear and are monitoring the situation. Everyone needs to take responsibility - if you believe that someone is breaking the rules, then please let the mod and admin team know about it.

However, if you do report something, wait for it to be dealt with. DO NOT make the matter worse by responding.

We want everyone to enjoy themselves. This is improving very difficult on this section due to peoples strong opinions and others sensitive nature. We are trying to run a fair forum with set rules - if anyone has any further comments, you know who your moderators are or you can PM the admin team.

The other day Jubb said posts describing Nadal as a moonballer would be moderated - is this the case or not?

That is something you will have to discuss with the moderators of this section. I am here in the capicity that the board was running a bit heated in their absence. As a member of the admin team, we like to check on sections from time to time.

[yummymummy]

OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!

Tenez AND Catalan Power ?????????????????????????

Close down the site NOW !!!!!!!!!!!1

[Tenez]

The other day Jubb said posts describing Nadal as a moonballer would be moderated - is this the case or not?

[Tenez]

OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!

Tenez AND Catalan Power ?????????????????????????

Close down the site NOW !!!!!!!!!!!1

Yummy...Have you asked yourself? What do you actually bring in those tennis forums?

[yummymummy]

The love of tennis in general Tenez = I don't pretend that I
know *anything* about the game. but I DON'T knock
players the way you do !

And WHAT EXACTLY do YOU bring to the tennis forums
apart from raising everyones' blood pressure ?

[wow]

It will be a shame if over-zealous mods ruin this forum before it gets the chance to properly develop.

Or the over-zealous Nadal haters...

Lydian, You can choose to ignore Tenez. But there is hardly any point in over moderating this forum besides that most of the contributors do not agree with Tenez on Nadal bashing.

He discusses his points and you can discuss yours and if you think that it is falling on deaf ears then you can ignore him. Although I wouldn't want to see Anti Andy or Anti Fed army going gung ho here (like it was on 6060 however little bit of banter will be fine.

Finally, there is no point in banning tenez as he can create another account with his alter ego borgisback.

[yummymummy]

[Guest]

First off, there is a lot of mud slinging around here, some of it aimed at my head !

If you have any beef about my moderation, go to the Admins and complain, its that simple. If you have any trouble understanding the rules, go look at them again, if you are in any doubt as to why there is moderation on V2.

More importantly, if you are going to fling mud at least have the decency to provide links or quotes from posts.....for a start, which deleted article are you talking about Tenez, how can I respond when I dont know what you are talking about.

[Tom_____]

First off, there is a lot of mud slinging around here, some of it aimed at my head !

If you have any beef about my moderation, go to the mods and complain, its that simple. If you have any trouble understanding the rules, go look at them again, if you are in any doubt as to why there is moderation on V2.

More importantly, if you are going to fling mud at least have the decency to provide links or quotes from posts.....for a start, which deleted article are you talking about Tenez, how can I respond when I dont know what you are talking about.

Jubb, Are 'moonballing bashing comments' going to be moderated or not? as quite a few got posted earlier, weren't moderated, blood pressures raised and other mods stepped in, but did not address the moonballing

[lydian]

Thanks for your comments guys - I'll just hit the mental ignore button.

Yes, people are not paid to make nice comments but its free to treat people with respect and courtesy too.

No-one wants over-moderation, no-one wants over-wummery and polarisation. Its not easy but lets hope the forum strikes a happy balance - self-regulation is the best way so that moderation isnt needed much. We all love tennis...that's what binds us...Nadal, Federer, Sampras, Murray, Nole, etc are all tennis players playing the game we love. I'm all for banter, and gentle ribbing of players buts lets keep it realistic and not tribal, because once this forum becomes tribal its lost. Happy posting guys

[Guest]

Tom, we are not on here 24/7 every minute and second of the day, I do have a day job, it helps to pay the bills.

Its not always possible to read every post, but we are trying our best to integrate Moderation with Justification. We all make this site work to our own interests.

If that interest is wumming each other up, so be it, but it isn't, the rules state this, but if we are going to moderate this board effectively, that means all posters have to become involved, alert us to posts that you think are derogatory, it helps us to keep on top of things. We do moderate a lot, it is unseen most of the time, but posts are deleted, words deleted, members deleted and we can't do this without your help.

We'd have to have as many Moderators as there are members to allow it to be run as completely proactive. We are both on here, reactive as well, but at least you have a face to talk to.

[ADMIN]

Thanks for your comments guys - I'll just hit the mental ignore button.

There should be a proper ignore button, if you go into another person's profile there's the option to 'foe' someone, that should result in that person's comments no longer appearing for you.

[lydian]

Thanks Hero, I'll take a look...

[ADMIN]

In regards to the term 'm00nballing' etc.
Personally I think that's getting into silly levels of modding, I recognise that it's a derogative remark for Nadal's style at times but seriously we're grown ups, if you get offended by this sort of stuff then surely a forum is perhaps not the place for you.
On the other hand though I do think that using terms such as that simply to antagonize is not on, so in the interest of everyone I've 'edited' the word. Now if anyone attempts to type it they will find it's been replaced by an alternative in an effort to keep the peace.
If anyone has issue with this please feel free to contact myself.

[Davie]

Haddie - all the admins and mods on here are also regular members and posters.

If you look back at what you seem to have taken offense to, my initial contribution to the thread in question was to quote (and answer) someone else's post.

YOU were the one to jump in on it and question the point. YOU could have kept things private but chose not to. To come back and suggest that you were somehow humiliated is frankly quite odd.

If you find a post offensive then use the report button (but be warned we don't tolerate frivolous reports). Contact me privately or if you don't trust my judgement, contact another admin or mod. but DON'T try to accuse me of humiliating you - you seem to be quite capable of that without my intervention (that is me talking as a member, not an admin)

[yummymummy]

That's not the point though is it Hero ?

Why SHOULD we have to *block* someone's post ?

This is shaping up to be just another 606 forum with the same
old Peeps posting the same old bile !

Lydian is quite right -

[Tenez]

...More importantly, if you are going to fling mud at least have the decency to provide links or quotes from posts.....for a start, which deleted article are you talking about Tenez, how can I respond when I dont know what you are talking about.

What makes you think I created this thread because of you?

[Tenez]

In regards to the term 'Rafa\'s style of tennis' etc.
Personally I think that's getting into silly levels of modding, I recognise that it's a derogative remark for Nadal's style at times but seriously we're grown ups, if you get offended by this sort of stuff then surely a forum is perhaps not the place for you.
On the other hand though I do think that using terms such as that simply to antagonize is not on, so in the interest of everyone I've 'edited' the word. Now if anyone attempts to type it they will find it's been replaced by an alternative in an effort to keep the peace.
If anyone has issue with this please feel free to contact myself.

Hear! hear!

[Davie]

That's not the point though is it Hero ?

Why SHOULD we have to *block* someone's post ?

Turn the question around. Why SHOULDN'T you?

[ADMIN]

That's not the point though is it Hero ?

Why SHOULD we have to *block* someone's post ?

This is shaping up to be just another 606 forum with the same
old Peeps posting the same old bile !

Lydian is quite right -

Because this is the internet.
You can simply choose to read said post, respond to it, ignore it, use the function to ignore the poster or go elsewhere.
The poster in question is currently not breaking any rules, there are fan sections that are just that, in there any form of 'anti' posts will be clamped on heavily, but in the main section as long as they do not break the site rules they are allowed.
Forums are for grown up debate, debate is not one sided, it often has people with very differing views involved in it.

[Guest]

...More importantly, if you are going to fling mud at least have the decency to provide links or quotes from posts.....for a start, which deleted article are you talking about Tenez, how can I respond when I dont know what you are talking about.

What makes you think I created this thread because of you?

I didnt Tenez, don't get big idea's. I asked you a question, are you going to answer me ? which deleted article are you talking about ?

[Tenez]

It will be a shame if over-zealous mods ruin this forum before it gets the chance to properly develop.

Or the over-zealous Nadal haters...

Lydian, You can choose to ignore Tenez. But there is hardly any point in over moderating this forum besides that most of the contributors do not agree with Tenez on Nadal bashing.

He discusses his points and you can discuss yours and if you think that it is falling on deaf ears then you can ignore him. Although I wouldn't want to see Anti Andy or Anti Fed army going gung ho here (like it was on 6060 however little bit of banter will be fine.

Finally, there is no point in banning tenez as he can create another account with his alter ego borgisback.

Don't worry. I won't do create another account. I'd simply join another forum and try to pump life into it, like I did here.

[yummymummy]

Like I said - 606 is alive and well UNFORTUNATELY

[Tenez]

...More importantly, if you are going to fling mud at least have the decency to provide links or quotes from posts.....for a start, which deleted article are you talking about Tenez, how can I respond when I dont know what you are talking about.

What makes you think I created this thread because of you?

I didnt Tenez, don't get big idea's. I asked you a question, are you going to answer me ? which deleted article are you talking about ?

Maybe you can answer my question first. Where did I say that an article was deleted?

[yummymummy]

[legendkillar]

Guys this now getting silly in true Mexican stand off fashion. Sometimes it does pay to walk away from the topic. I have no beef with anyone. I do sometimes disagree with the views of some users posts. Hence debate. In terms of the 'Rafa\'s style of tennis, a rather successful tennis player' this was said it was going to be moderated should it appear and it has done. This appeared on a thread and it wasn't moderated. Now there is no point in saying we can do this that and the other if it is not done. Since posting on the tennis section there are 2 moderators I see on here and quite frankly I was surprised to see it flooded with Admin members who I have never seen contribute on here and I can't say for certain whether they monitor each section on the forum.

Like I have suggested maybe appoint another mod who does regularly appear on the tennis section to calm things down should there be a situation like this arise, or like I suggested that users should use the designated fan spaces for popular players.

I think 606V2 is a fantastic site and has done everything they can to ensure all debates are in good spirit and not turn into personal insults.

I think some tennis fans need to be a bit more gracious if their favourite player suffers defeat and not create threads aiming to cause disharmony amongst fans alike.

[Guest]

Tenez, read your own article, you know, the words you typed to create this thread in the first place.

"Delete a thread" read "Close a thread" means the same thing. In English anyway.

Erm, the only question you asked me was "What makes you think I created this thread because of you?" I answered that with "I didnt Tenez, don't get big idea's."

Now that you have found out that I did answer "your" question first, which article are you talking about ? I need to know so that I can respond to the OA that you have written and the questions that it has generated.

[yummymummy]

I am always *gracious* in defeat Legend 8)

But some posters seem hell-bent on forcing their
one-sided opinions down everyone elses throat.

THAT'S what I find annoying

[legendkillar]

I agree yummy.

I have seen both sides on this forum and it always seems to be the same usual suspects.

I could have a rant if Murray fails to win and blame everything, but I don't.

And like you say it is frustrating to see it.

[yummymummy]

Is you Jinxing Andy now Legend

[legendkillar]

I am hoping for the 'improved' Andy to sweep up the 2 grass titles.

[Tenez]

Tenez, read your own article, you know, the words you typed to create this thread in the first place.

"Delete a thread" read "Close a thread" means the same thing. In English anyway.

Ah? I must have learnt Turquish then without knowing it.

Anyway The admin who closed the thread (the one about Nadal outsmarting Federer) has reopened it since. SO it's all fine, don;t worry.

[Adam D]

Tenez, read your own article, you know, the words you typed to create this thread in the first place.

"Delete a thread" read "Close a thread" means the same thing. In English anyway.

Ah? I must have learnt Turquish then without knowing it.

Anyway The admin who closed the thread (the one about Nadal outsmarting Federer) has reopened it since. SO it's all fine, don;t worry.

Tenez - the thread was locked for under 5 minutes. I did so, to allow me to post my comments on the situation without others getting lost in the middle. It was actually unlocked before you posted this thread.

[noleisthebest]

I am hoping for the 'improved' Andy to sweep up the 2 grass titles.

that's why NOle withdrew from Queens, to give his mate some breathing space

I think at Wimbers, a final would just be perfect...Nole wins, of course...these olides've gotta be stopped, I don't think I can' bear another one of those finger wagging moments from Federer....

[Tenez]

Tenez - the thread was locked for under 5 minutes. I did so, to allow me to post my comments on the situation without others getting lost in the middle. It was actually unlocked before you posted this thread.

Fine. No problem with that. This allowed for a 90 posts thread, with views about what moderation should or could be. And no one was hurt in the process or forced to post ....so not a bad outcome at the end, isn't it?

[noleisthebest]

Tenez,

how's the pretty blonde from the club ?

[yummymummy]

Now Now Nole - Us Blondes must stick together

Djoko v Murray would be Grrreeaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttt

[Tenez]

Tenez,

how's the pretty blonde from the club ?

It's you isn't it? close to Wimbledon?

[legendkillar]

I am hoping for the 'improved' Andy to sweep up the 2 grass titles.

that's why NOle withdrew from Queens, to give his mate some breathing space

I think at Wimbers, a final would just be perfect...Nole wins, of course...these olides've gotta be stopped, I don't think I can' bear another one of those finger wagging moments from Federer....

It has to be Andy at Wimbledon NITB

If he won it, I would spend a month celebrating on Strawberries and Champagne

[noleisthebest]

I am hoping for the 'improved' Andy to sweep up the 2 grass titles.

that's why NOle withdrew from Queens, to give his mate some breathing space

I think at Wimbers, a final would just be perfect...Nole wins, of course...these olides've gotta be stopped, I don't think I can' bear another one of those finger wagging moments from Federer....

It has to be Andy at Wimbledon NITB

If he won it, I would spend a month celebrating on Strawberries and Champagne

Only a month????!!!!! Wait...with or without cream?

[legendkillar]

I am hoping for the 'improved' Andy to sweep up the 2 grass titles.

that's why NOle withdrew from Queens, to give his mate some breathing space

I think at Wimbers, a final would just be perfect...Nole wins, of course...these olides've gotta be stopped, I don't think I can' bear another one of those finger wagging moments from Federer....

It has to be Andy at Wimbledon NITB

If he won it, I would spend a month celebrating on Strawberries and Champagne

Only a month????!!!!! Wait...with or without cream?

Maybe longer. I would bath in the cream

[lydian]

Reckon Murray will go far at Wimbers as long as his ankle holds up - no slippery grass needed!

Looking at his form of hitting thrown plates in the recent ads he's a cinch for the title!

[Haddie-nuff]

Haddie - all the admins and mods on here are also regular members and posters.

If you look back at what you seem to have taken offense to, my initial contribution to the thread in question was to quote (and answer) someone else's post.

YOU were the one to jump in on it and question the point. YOU could have kept things private but chose not to. To come back and suggest that you were somehow humiliated is frankly quite odd.

If you find a post offensive then use the report button (but be warned we don't tolerate frivolous reports). Contact me privately or if you don't trust my judgement, contact another admin or mod. but DON'T try to accuse me of humiliating you - you seem to be quite capable of that without my intervention (that is me talking as a member, not an admin)

Again you found that necessary Davy to post those commentsw when you could have contacted me personally . However noted

[noleisthebest]

Hey, Haddie-nuff, are you Deecoco? I mean Spain and all that....

[I AM AWESOME]

I am hoping for the 'improved' Andy to sweep up the 2 grass titles.

that's why NOle withdrew from Queens, to give his mate some breathing space

I think at Wimbers, a final would just be perfect...Nole wins, of course...these olides've gotta be stopped, I don't think I can' bear another one of those finger wagging moments from Federer....

Lol, you have to admit that finger wagging was EPIC. lol. Best moment of the FO for me.

But don't worry about Nole I'm sure he'll make AT LEAST the semis. He made it there last year without a serve , so definately should look forward to a good tourny from him.

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