6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February

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WALES v ENGLAND 
11 February 2017
KO:16:50 GMT
Principality Stadium, Cardiff

Live on [ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)]

Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gauzere (France) & Nick Briant (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

129 Played 129
57 Won 60
12 Drawn 12
60 Lost 57
1,673 Points 1,518

B. Recent Form 

29 May 2016: Twickenham, London
27 – 13 to England
2016 mid-year rugby union internationals

12 March 2016: Twickenham, London
25 – 21 to England
2016 Six Nations Championship

26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A

26 September 2015: Twickenham, London 
25 – 28 to Wales 
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A 

6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 
16 – 21 to England 
2015 Six Nations 

9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London 
29 – 18 to England 
2014 Six Nations 

16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 
30 – 3 to Wales 
2013 Six Nations 

25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London 
12 – 19 to Wales 
2012 Six Nations

13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 
19 – 9 to Wales 
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test 

6 August 2011: Twickenham, London 
23 – 19 to England 
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test 

C. Teams

WALES

15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Dan Biggar, 9-Rhys Webb; 1-Rob Evans, 2-Ken Owens, 3-Tomas Francis, 4-Jake Ball, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Sam Warburton, 7-Justin Tipuric; 8-Ross Moriarty.

Replacements: 16-Scott Baldwin, 17-Nicky Smith, 18-Samson Lee, 19-Cory Hill, 20-Taulupe Faletau, 21-Gareth Davies, 22-Sam Davies, 23-Jamie Roberts.

ENGLAND

15-Mike Brown, 14-Jack Nowell, 13-Jonathan Joseph, 12-Owen Farrell, 11-Elliot Daly, 10-George Ford, 9-Ben Youngs; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley (captain), 3-Dan Cole, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Maro Itoje, 7-Jack Clifford, 8-Nathan Hughes.

Replacements: 16-Jamie George, 17-Matt Mullan, 18-Kyle Sinckler, 19-Tom Wood, 20-James Haskell, 21-Danny Care, 22-Ben Te'o, 23-Jonny May.

Lovely try by Ben Jones

Wales 10-0

12 mins gone

Good try what a kick conversion by Wales under 20

JoseyWales wrote:Good try   what a kick conversion by Wales under 20

Aye he's missed one but the others have been great

Good game so far

There no man buns in rugby

Mercer is some player!

Skills lacking a bit on both sides though. Seems very windy.

Could see some yellows for Welsh players if England keep that maul going this game. Just about impossible to defend.

Try botched by England there. Looking better though.

Just give it to Mercer!

Agreed mercer everywhere .Wales was let off with that knock on

Good quick tap by Randall. Try.

Great passage of play by England in the build-up.

13-10

Welsh Scrum half scores for England

13-10 nearly half time

10 metre rule is cruel when you ten metres from your line

What a fantastic try by England

Great hands, forwards and backs.

13-17

JoseyWales wrote:10 metre rule is cruel when you ten metres from your line

Great try this time though.

13-17

maestegmafia wrote:Welsh Scrum half scores for England

13-10 nearly half time

Quote from Harry Randallthe English scrum half,

"I had a great time in Wales and especially at Llandovery where they helped me develop a lot. But I'm English so I don't feel like a traitor for moving back to England," said the scrum-half.

Ha, I only just noticed maes' little dig there!

Try time! Butler shows his strength.

England looking ominous and have the wind next half.

13-24

Third try by England was very Scott Gibbs

Sucker punch for Wales and their commentary team!

Harry little even for a scrum half . Wales defending terrible but good try by England

JoseyWales wrote:Harry little even for a scrum half . Wales defending terrible but good try by England

It's a very good england team, their number eight has been deputising for Faletau at Bath RFC. His skills and confidence show.

They put a cricket score on France last week.

Welsh maul defence is doing well against a very powerful English pack.

Prop should have gone all the way then!

England should be out of sight by now.

Can't help feeling the floodgates will be opening soon

Great work at He line out by wales

England laying over the ball at every tackle, ref dealing with it well.

Forwards try from wales pushed England over their line.

Chris Coleman is a hell of a lump, might be a great prospect for the dragons in timr

Will Jones is playing much better this half, was giving away penalties first half, he's winning them now...

Englands discipline is letting them down.

Now down to thirteen men

Mercer you beauty!



Try with 13 men and Randall card about to end.

Great solo effort by Mercer.

Mercer showing no mercy . If this guy will be in the England squad next six Nations .

Is this on TV? Couldn't find it anywhere on my Sky box.

Poorfour wrote:Is this on TV? Couldn't find it anywhere on my Sky box.

BBC2 Wales. Channel 971 on Sky.

Poorfour wrote:Is this on TV? Couldn't find it anywhere on my Sky box.

Bbc2

21-37



Very good performance by England. Superb number eight in Zack Mercer.

If their discipline had been better this could have been a much larger score margin in their favour.

Good start by Wales exploiting the wind with good kicking and some indecision by the England back 3. England improved and, even with some poor discipline, mostly looked in control.

Not sure if it was that good a performance by England though. They only really played in fits and starts and too many knock-ons. Still, they seem to know when to up the pace and take their opponents out of the game.

Mercer a very worthy MotM. Very, very promising talent.

zach mercer is some player

What a joy. Left the room with Wales 13-3 ahead- courtesy of one of the worst clearance kicks in history from the England 15- England making lots of mistakes and the Welsh 4(?) always punching holes in the England defense. Come back 10 mins later and England 24-13 ahead

Classic commentary though - just before half time. 'England have the bit between their teeth and now they are going for the throat'

Fair play to the U20s hanging on in there. England looked good when they started scoring tries. Very good side. Mercer very good, but can he fit in that early with Vunipola and players like Underhill to fit into an English backrow?

Mercer deserved mot, he carried England the whole game, good victory against a good Wales team well done both teams.

glamorganalun wrote:Mercer deserved mot,  he carried England the whole game, good victory against a good Wales team well done both teams.

Yes I agree his light blue scrum cap seemed to be everywhere, very talented and massively physical.

maestegmafia wrote:

glamorganalun wrote:Mercer deserved mot,  he carried England the whole game, good victory against a good Wales team well done both teams.

Yes I agree his light blue scrum cap seemed to be everywhere, very talented and massively physical.

Taking tips off Toby and stealing tips scrumcap

JoseyWales wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

glamorganalun wrote:Mercer deserved mot,  he carried England the whole game, good victory against a good Wales team well done both teams.

Yes I agree his light blue scrum cap seemed to be everywhere, very talented and massively physical.

       
Taking tips off Toby and stealing tips scrumcap

He's got a brilliant mentor in Faletau there. Looks to have a great future

JoseyWales wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

glamorganalun wrote:Mercer deserved mot,  he carried England the whole game, good victory against a good Wales team well done both teams.

Yes I agree his light blue scrum cap seemed to be everywhere, very talented and massively physical.

       
Taking tips off Toby and stealing tips scrumcap

Haskell often favours that colour too. Think he had one on when he bounced off the Welsh rugby post, in lieu of scoring a try two years ago. Jack Nowell rarely wears anything else. (Wonder if there are team orders on how many players can wear the same colour)

SCW advocating a convincing win for England….makes me much more relaxed.

I do agree with SCW in that Clifford & Nowell give an added balance to the side.
Whilst size isn't everything, the young England back row are significantly bigger than their Welsh counterparts which should help England to be on the front foot.
Also from an England point of view I hope Biggar starts & I again agree, Wales will be missing a trick by not starting with Sam Davies.

Gwlad wrote:SCW advocating a convincing win for England….makes me much more relaxed.

As much of a fool that SCW is, he's never wrong 100% of the time.

Beeb stats on England Wales seem to have forgotten the match last summer for some reason.

Looks like England fans are expecting a slaughter of Wales in Cardiff, as the last game we faced them at twickenham was.

I hope Wales can put up some sort of opposition, we have had some poor results every few matches.

England at twickenham, last test in Dunedin and the first of our autumn internationals.

By comparison Wales's consistency is polar opposite to England's form of fifteen games in a row.

Only in my dreams would I consider us beating England comfortably today, therefore I'm just hoping for a close game. A win would be the cherry on the cake but the main thing for me is that we're competitive and really test a very good England side. Would be great if this goes down to the wire. Not so good for my health though I suppose

maestegmafia wrote:Looks like England fans are expecting a slaughter of Wales in Cardiff, as the last game we faced them at twickenham was.

I hope Wales can put up some sort of opposition, we have had some poor results every few matches.

England at twickenham, last test in Dunedin and the first of our autumn internationals.

By comparison Wales's consistency is polar opposite to England's form of fifteen games in a row.

Don't know where you're getting that, maesteg. This is the most balanced build up to a Wales - England game I've ever seen on here, and most of the England fans are hopeful (current form, exciting team) but nervous (inexperienced back row, poor last game). The Welsh fans seem to be in the same position - probably closer to your full squad than England are, some exciting prospects but a mixed bag in terms of form (even your win over South Africa in the autumn was more about a dire SA performance than a strong Welsh one).

Of course, I imagine there are some boisterous idiots in Cardiff already who are basing their prediction on the long winning run rather than any examination of the facts, but every team has them, Wales as much as England.