surrey vs kent & sussex twenty/20

First topic message reminder :

after the great win today its back to twenty/20 and the final two games in the group a win tomorrow and friday might hopefully get us a quarter final tie at home but the main thing is we win tomorrow to ease the pressure of having to win at hove.
team news:
Jade Dernbach is included in a squad of thirteen to face both Kent and Sussex in the Friends Life t20, on Thursday 14th and Friday 15th July.
also returning is gary wilson after playing for ireland vs scotland
chris tremlett will not be allowed to play along with kevin pietersen england orders i'm afraid
also left out of the squad is matthew spriegel
The full Surrey Lions squad to face the Kent Spitfires at the Kia Oval on Thursday 14th July and the Sussex Sharks at Hove on Friday 15th July is:
Rory Hamilton-Brown (Captain)
Jason Roy
Steven Davies (Wicket Keeper)
Tom Maynard
Zander De Bruyn
Zafar Ansari
Gary Wilson
Yasir Arafat
Chris Schofield
Gareth Batty
Stuart Meaker
Jade Dernbach
Dirk Nannes

JimBob - just back with a curry. Congratulations on the 500 whist I was out

Do you think we could get Dernbach a wig and a false beard so he could bowl another 4 overs?

31 off 9 Meaker deliveries? Looks like we'll be chasing what I consider to be an impossible target. don't think we'll get anything over 170.

it looks like goodwin will get a hundred

Carrotdude wrote:31 off 9 Meaker deliveries? Looks like we'll be chasing what I consider to be an impossible target. don't think we'll get anything over 170.

same as last night carrot jade and nannes apart the rest are awful.

meaker gets a wkt so 2 overs 1 for 33

I'm less annoyed with Meaker and Ansari than Arafat and Batty becaus ethey are both very young players learning their trade and need this experience to improve and get better in the future. The experienced guys should know better. Glad Arafat got dropped tonight.

In the circumstances Ansari going for 8 an over is just about passable....

ansari 0 for 33
at last 16 overs up

150 up 3 overs left

Just seen the score - why's Meaker playing?! He's clueless in one day cricket!
We've got no chance chasing this

Just as an FYI - look at Dernbach's career economy - it is pretty ordinary but we all know that in the last couple of years he has been our most economical bowler. This shows that someone like Meaker can improve his one day bowling, if he sorts out some consistency he could be a great one day bowler in the future, imo.

Cant see us winning from although they do say one of the boundries is very short.

Could have been a good year but I believe we have played a batsman short all competition. Meaker should not be near the T20 team

Will Goodwin or Gooch reach their century first!

now jade

A combination of Meaker, the Brain and Schoey bowl four overs and get a return of 1 - 57

And, as JimBob asks above, how on earth can't Viscount get in this team - or even tonight's squad?

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Will Goodwin or Gooch reach their century first!

place your bets

10th wide

Carrot

For me the best one day quick bowlers are those who naturally pitch the ball up. Meaker is more a back of a length bowler so to bowl well in one day cricket he has to go against whats natuaral to him, not impossible but hard. this is the same reason Broad has been dropped from the England squad and why Tremlett often goes for runs.

Once again our overseas player has been disappointing this season which is a shame as we have made decent progress this year and a top ovesea's player having a good season could of put us up there in all competitions.

For once no blame to the club on this front as on paper Arafat looked a decent choice

goodwin has killed us

The thing is, if we lose this (which we probably will) it won't be because of the last 2 games that we are out, we started badly and in the end had to win 5 out of the last 6 to qualify, of which we only managed 4. By contrast, we only won 3 of the first 7.

As has been said the team selection has been poor thoughout really, although I'm certain it's because Adams doesn't feel that we have another batsman in the squad capable of doing a better job than the bowlers and all rounders, not because he only wants 5 batsmen.

To a degree I can understand Ramps not playing T20, but leaving the Viscount out is baffling!..................I win the race

nannes take a bow 2 for 21

Sussex collapsing - about an hour too late....

Carrotdude wrote:The thing is, if we lose this (which we probably will) it won't be because of the last 2 games that we are out, we started badly and in the end had to win 5 out of the last 6 to qualify, of which we only managed 4. By contrast, we only won 3 of the first 7.

As has been said the team selection has been poor thoughout really, although I'm certain it's because Adams doesn't feel that we have another batsman in the squad capable of doing a better job than the bowlers and all rounders, not because he only wants 5 batsmen.

So why not just throw a youngster in like Harinath or Lancefield???

depressedsurreyfan wrote:Carrot

For me the best one day quick bowlers are those who naturally pitch the ball up. Meaker is more a back of a length bowler so to bowl well in one day cricket he has to go against whats natuaral to him, not impossible but hard. this is the same reason Broad has been dropped from the England squad and why Tremlett often goes for runs.

Once again our overseas player has been disappointing this season which is a shame as we have made decent progress this year and a top ovesea's player having a good season could of put us up there in all competitions.

For once no blame to the club on this front as on paper Arafat looked a decent choice

Can't really disagree depressed, although I would say Meaker pitches the ball fuller more naturally than Broad or Tremlett, I would describe him as more of a skiddy bowler and he gets a lot of LBW's and bowled as his wickets. Have to say I probably haven't seen enough of him bowling to give a proper view though

Can we swop Nannes for Arafat permanently!

thegooch7 wrote:To a degree I can understand Ramps not playing T20, but leaving the Viscount out is baffling!..................I win the race

Nice one Goochie and well timed - just before Corry!

depressedsurreyfan wrote:

Carrotdude wrote:The thing is, if we lose this (which we probably will) it won't be because of the last 2 games that we are out, we started badly and in the end had to win 5 out of the last 6 to qualify, of which we only managed 4. By contrast, we only won 3 of the first 7.

As has been said the team selection has been poor thoughout really, although I'm certain it's because Adams doesn't feel that we have another batsman in the squad capable of doing a better job than the bowlers and all rounders, not because he only wants 5 batsmen.

So why not just throw a youngster in like Harinath or Lancefield???

I agree, no idea why! Although Lancefields second 11 T20 tournament was shocking (averaged 10). Harinath for sure couldn't have done any worse than Wilson or Spriegel.

depressedsurreyfan wrote:

Carrotdude wrote:The thing is, if we lose this (which we probably will) it won't be because of the last 2 games that we are out, we started badly and in the end had to win 5 out of the last 6 to qualify, of which we only managed 4. By contrast, we only won 3 of the first 7.

As has been said the team selection has been poor thoughout really, although I'm certain it's because Adams doesn't feel that we have another batsman in the squad capable of doing a better job than the bowlers and all rounders, not because he only wants 5 batsmen.

So why not just throw a youngster in like Harinath or Lancefield???

lancefield has been shown the exit door depressed

100 for goodwin out of a total of 178 that hurts

179 to win then

11 runs and 4 wickets off the last 2 does give us some momentum going into our innings I suppose, well done Jade and Nannes (apart from one Dernbach over) they were superb again.

No way we're chasing that down unless Davies or Roy bat through IMO.

nannes excellent and apart from jade's 3rd over as well.

Fair enough it doesn't have to be Lancefield any youngster will do they cant do much worse.


For once though I think our squad looks ok. next season all we need to do is not lose any one and concentrate on getting a good top wicket taking oversea's player and I think it could be our seaon. For now I will settle for the progress we have made

Tbh I would have taken a CC win over Kent and a loss in the T20. Always prefer the 'proper' cricket.

Corry is on pause!
Once again we've dragged the chase back from 10 an over to 9
Still too much I fear, but he's hoping for a Davies/Le Roi 6 fest!
COME ON SURREY!!!!

It looked like we would be chasing almost 10 an over but now its just under 9. Suseex still strong favourites but you never know. 178 is beatable if one batsman scores big 195 wouldn't have been even if one batsman scores big.

And apparently one of the boundries has been brought in and is very short according to the commentators

Jimbob - Lancefield going - is that official?

It's basically Le Roi Or bust

Very good bowling at the death for the second night running. However, far too many runs conceded before that.

Well played to Goodwin. Can anyone match that?

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Jimbob - Lancefield going - is that official?

It's basically Le Roi Or bust

only offered a one year deal not playing in the 2nd's anymore must mean goodbye

now chaps if you get to 50 tonight please carry it on to a hundred

Evening all, match in the balance? I'd argue slightly in our favour, Goodwin was sublime tonight. I think you need one is Davies, Roy or Rory to play through.

Thoughts?

come on surrey

Gregers - you have the runs on the board and with that a considerable advantage ....

Yeah that's what I'm hoping/thinking. Can't we just decide that neither Durham or worcestershire deserve to go through and have 5 southern teams?

We have been poor at chasing down totals this season. So I would say we have 20% chance of winning, max, not least as we have so few front line batsmen in the team.

arif bowls a wide on the 6th delivery davies make him pay with a six

2nd six for roy

it looks like how we play the spin might decide this