The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

by Guest Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the David Pocock photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?

Ale

by WillyGilly Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:04 pm

Alright maybe not lock them up. But if they have a genetic predisposition towards violence surely we need to keep an eye on them?

by poissonrouge Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

Gibbo,

the really sad thing is they already do this to a section of society. Trouble is, they are the ones least likely to commit crime of any type and still they don't even go them a chance.

by **Notch** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

I don't think there's any evidence any of those guys are psychopaths though Gibbo?

Psychopaths are specifically profoundly lacking empathy, incapable of guilt or remorse, unable to understand the emotional states of others and generally manipulative.

None of those things are crimes. But they do make yo statistically more likely to commit crimes.

by **Notch** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:09 pm

WillyGilly wrote:Alright maybe not lock them up. But if they have a genetic predisposition towards violence surely we need to keep an eye on them?

Genetic predisposition towards psychopathy, not violence, to be exact (see above).

by Gibson Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:11 pm

hughie1986 wrote:What has ever, I hear you ask, come out of cork??? Well honestly ladies and gentlemen I'm as stumped as you.

Langers will claim that Irelands greatest footballer came from Cork. Very true, if you consider a player who walks out on their country in the middle of a World Cup your greatest player.
Paul McGrath. Then Brady. Then Giles. 3 Dubs. Keane was and still is a knacker. Total and utter knacker. A self-confessed thug too.

What about Sonia O'Sullivan they cry, the greatest athlete the country ever produced. Well she's from Cobh and I reckon even The Right Honorable Gentleman Thomond would agree that people from Cobh are breed upon themselves, a bunch of pikeys who cross bread with some badgers. And let's be honest she can't even make it 1500m without Poopie herself.

Ah now leave off Sonia. I love Sonia. We had pints at Schiphol once. We talked of World Championships.

What's that from the back??? Michael Collins??? True True a great man no doubt, shame Ye had to shoot him in the back

Basterds!

Jack Lynch, good call, very good Taoiseach, so good in fact that they built a tunnel and named it after him, shame its sinking into the harbour though

Great hurler and an honest man.

Cork, its a wonderful place

I love Cork. Like France... shame about the residents.

by rhino-dragon Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

I have no psychopathic tendancies nor have i ever commited a crime so that theory is rubbish.

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:13 pm

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by **Notch** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:14 pm

rhino-dragon wrote:I have no psychopathic tendancies nor have i ever commited a crime so that theory is rubbish.

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by Suspicious lurker Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

Gibbo we must maintain a unite front against the Cork Langers, so for the time being lose all feelings towards Sonia

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

rhino-dragon wrote:I have no psychopathic tendancies nor have i ever commited a crime so that theory is rubbish.

rhino

I think the point is that not everyone who lacks empathy is a psychopath, however all psychopaths lack empathy as part of their makeup.

by Suspicious lurker Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:16 pm

All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs

by WillyGilly Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:19 pm

LDCPete wrote:
rhino-dragon wrote:I have no psychopathic tendancies nor have i ever commited a crime so that theory is rubbish.

rhino

I think the point is that not everyone who lacks empathy is a psychopath, however all psychopaths lack empathy as part of their makeup.

Nail on the head

by poissonrouge Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:21 pm

Just so everyone can be equally offended at the same time, I am off to back books. The joys of September.

Night all.

Be good to each other.

by WillyGilly Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:22 pm

I saw this first does this mean I recieve the brunt of the offence?

by Gibson Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:22 pm

LDCPete wrote:
rhino-dragon wrote:I have no psychopathic tendancies nor have i ever commited a crime so that theory is rubbish.

rhino

I think the point is that not everyone who lacks empathy is a psychopath, however all psychopaths lack empathy as part of their makeup.

The Detective takes the floor. Based on hard-experience, education and FACT. Man, you must see and have to deal with some sheet. I wasnt protecting lunatics or psychos. I just think we have to be careful as a Society. Careful we dont turn into self-serving Little Hitlers. Like Thatcher. BOTH psychos. And miss the Beauty and Joy we can gain from the madness of genius. Musically, Literature, Scientifically. Vision. Everything that really matters.

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:27 pm

I deal with people Gibbo. I try not to use any other labels than that. I work with people who are bumholes, and deal with 'criminals' who I have more of an affinity with.

To do my job with a them and us attitude is fraught with danger, and not just physical, the danger of failing to see what is right and making the wrong decision and adversely affecting peoples lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtiJN6yiik

by Cymroglan Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:32 pm

Some people learn to control their emotions empathy or whatever you want t call it.
I certainly did and it's the only way I kept my sanity.

by Gibson Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

Love ya mate. Couldn't even begin to deal with and handle, what you deal with on a day-to-day basis. Just couldn't. Then you come home, try to lose the taste of that nastiness, you've just experienced, switch mindset and cuddle yer family.

Fancy a ride pal? Ale

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:47 pm

I deal with some good things too mate, and the coming home and cuddling my girls is the easy part. Learned years back how to switch between work and home modes, would have gone crazy if I hadn't.

by Suspicious lurker Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:01 pm

Must be tough Pete

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:04 pm

It's like anything, you have good days and bad days, but the good ones outweigh the bad ones otherwise you wouldn't do the job.

by WillyGilly Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:04 pm

Strange that on the evening we talk about psychopaths Face/Off is on BBC 3. Now surely we can agree character John Travolta plays for the majority of the film is unquestionably a psychopath?

by HammerofThunor Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:05 pm

Most of these brain scans are fMRI where basically they take two MRI scans (before and after a particular stimulus) and use statistics analysis to look for difference.

There's a bit of statistical cowpat involved and they notorious for not reporting null findings (only report the positives) which completely skews the data and means it's pretty unreliable.

I also heard the other day that they're not as sure as they were that DNA is the be all and end all of inheritance. We've recently downgraded the risks involved with radiation damage and inherited genetic defects because there seems to be little effect.

We're a long long way off truly profiling people based on brain scans or DNA (I hope)

by prop_lyd Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:05 pm

Evening all, just saw Rise of the Planet of the Apes....Andy Serkis is a genius!!

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:10 pm

Just been watching that Willy, good film.

by HammerofThunor Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:14 pm

WillyGilly wrote:Strange that on the evening we talk about psychopaths Face/Off is on BBC 3. Now surely we can agree character John Travolta plays for the majority of the film is unquestionably a psychopath?

He loves his brother doesn't he? Been a while since I watched it. Anybody watch Dexter?

Not sure what a sociopath is but it's also bandied about. Actually just consulted the mighty Wikipedia and apparently the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath is the cause. Whether it's a issue from birth (psychopath) or a developed issue (sociopath).

by Gibson Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:16 pm

Notch wrote:It's pretty stunning that the number of genuine psychopaths working in finance, big business etc. is SO much more pronounced than the general population. I mean, four times as much! That just knocks me out.

That makes so much sense to me. Ive worked with them in The City. Ýes. The profile fits. I thought I was a mad working-class hero, in Thatcher's Britain. Lots of fights. Took me years to realise that my rants in City wine-bars - were true and came true.

Welcome to the Real World kids.

by Gibson Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:18 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
WillyGilly wrote:Strange that on the evening we talk about psychopaths Face/Off is on BBC 3. Now surely we can agree character John Travolta plays for the majority of the film is unquestionably a psychopath?

He loves his brother doesn't he? Been a while since I watched it. Anybody watch Dexter?
Not sure what a sociopath is but it's also bandied about. Actually just consulted the mighty Wikipedia and apparently the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath is the cause. Whether it's a issue from birth (psychopath) or a developed issue (sociopath).

Yup. Love it.

by **Notch** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:20 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:Most of these brain scans are fMRI where basically they take two MRI scans (before and after a particular stimulus) and use statistics analysis to look for difference.

There's a bit of statistical cowpat involved and they notorious for not reporting null findings (only report the positives) which completely skews the data and means it's pretty unreliable.

I also heard the other day that they're not as sure as they were that DNA is the be all and end all of inheritance. We've recently downgraded the risks involved with radiation damage and inherited genetic defects because there seems to be little effect.

We're a long long way off truly profiling people based on brain scans or DNA (I hope)

Indeed. Not reporting negative results is a massive problem in all fields of science actually. Arguably a flaw in the publication system; it does sort of promote this kind of behaviour. You're not going to forge a good career on negative results; you're probably not even going to get your paper accepted. But they may be pretty essential to our understanding of things in the long run.

You're quite right. It's one of those interesting ethical questions though; and dare I say, important. Because this science is being used in courts in the USA. Science is always the best theory of the moment. Until something better replaces it.

by Gibson Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:27 pm

prop_lyd wrote:Evening all, just saw Rise of the Planet of the Apes....Andy Serkis is a genius!!

This wont endear me to Welsh soccer-fans, but doesn't Gareth Bale look like this guy? I think he does. Think all the bollox over Mujati and attack me now. He's White. Post-modern Racists.

http://sportuk.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html

by **Notch** Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:30 pm

I don't see it to be honest!

by Suspicious lurker Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:57 pm

That's very good gibbo, he does look like him

by Suspicious lurker Thu 08 Sep 2011, 12:23 am

https://www.606v2.com/t13377-quiz-questions#448039

by Gibson Thu 08 Sep 2011, 12:36 am

https://www.606v2.com/t12669p500-word-link

by Cari Thu 08 Sep 2011, 5:12 am

Well I shouldn't have any trouble getting up for the world cup. Wide awake in Cardiff... Shocked

I suppose it's good morning from me then coffee

by **Ozzy3213** Thu 08 Sep 2011, 7:15 am

Morning Cari

It's good to get in practice for when the world cup starts, very dedicated, go to the top of the class. I am the only one up in my house and am doing the lunches.

Morning all

by Mickado Thu 08 Sep 2011, 7:41 am

Morning folks. Been reading back on yer psycho conversation. Interesting stuff!

Cari, I wake up at the same time everyday (unless ive been drinking) so I won't even need an alarm to get up for the Ireland game on Sunday!

by Thomond Thu 08 Sep 2011, 7:47 am

Hughie,let's get things straight. You can't use the word langer. It is a Cork word only. Like black people and the "N" word.

by Thomond Thu 08 Sep 2011, 8:10 am

Healy out of Sunday's game: http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/worldcup/2011/0908/healyc.html

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 08 Sep 2011, 8:13 am

Bore da pawb / good morning all. Another grey, grey day...

by **Biltong** Thu 08 Sep 2011, 8:15 am

Top of the morning to you all.

It is an early Spring morning here in the south of Jo'burg, the sun is out, the birds are tweeting Whistle

outside my office, and the air is fresh.

Just another tough day in Africa. Very Happy

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 08 Sep 2011, 8:23 am

Morning Biltong. I'm not jealous at all! Wink

Bad news about Cian Healy, he's a dynamo around the field, but at least he's likely to be fit for the rest of the group matches.

by Mickado Thu 08 Sep 2011, 8:46 am

I thought Healy was ruled out of the US game after the England match. I'm not the least bit surprised he's not playing this week. No harm anyway, Tom Court could use a start.

by red_stag Thu 08 Sep 2011, 9:06 am

Notch you are gonna LOVE this.

Quote from the Irish Independent RWC special:

"Declan Kidneys own experiences as a player explain his loyalty to Paddy Wallace, a player our theorist believes reminds the Ireland coach a lot of himself".

by red_stag Thu 08 Sep 2011, 9:10 am

Notch I'm reading that Tony Buckley could start at loose with Courts versatility keeping him on the bench.

by Suspicious lurker Thu 08 Sep 2011, 9:12 am

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/
http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport?mobile-redirect=false
http://sport.scotsman.com/rugby
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/rugby

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=80
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union

by red_stag Thu 08 Sep 2011, 9:15 am

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Oh I feel ill. I've been so good fitness wise in last few weeks - training hard, only eating shoite or having booze rarely etc.

Tucked into a large breakfast roll just now. Feel awful

Also anyone know how easy it is to change emails. I want to move from Hotmail to Gmail. Is it more trouble than worth.

by Suspicious lurker Thu 08 Sep 2011, 9:22 am

Thomond wrote:Hughie,let's get things straight. You can't use the word langer. It is a Cork word only. Like black people and the "N" word.

Ladies and Gentlemen, proof that all I wrote last night was true. All T can come back with is, don't call me a langer.

Proof that Dublin is better than Cork

by red_stag Thu 08 Sep 2011, 9:24 am

Checkmate Hughie. Bravo sir.

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