Scotland v England Match Thread, Teams etc....

[HERSH]

First topic message reminder :

Scotland:

15 Rory Lamont,
14 Lee Jones,
13 Nick De Luca,
12 Sean Lamont,
11 Max Evans,
10 Dan Parks,
9 Chris Cusiter;
8 David Denton,
7 Ross Rennie,
6 Alasdair Strokosch,
5 Jim Hamilton,
4 Richie Gray,
3 Euan Murray,
2 Ross Ford (captain),
1 Allan Jacobsen.

Replacements: Scott Lawson, Geoff Cross, Alastair Kellock, John Barclay, Mike Blair, Greig Laidlaw, Graeme Morrison.

Added Spice
The Scottish Rugby Union have been left embarassed after T-shirts boasting of a Calcutta Cup win appeared on sale five days before this Saturday's match.

The mistake by the SRU's online retail partner led to T-shirts from Scotland's win in 2008 being re-released.

The shirts bore the logo: "Calcutta Cup. Scotland. Winners."

The blunder comes days after Scotland head coach Andy Robinson stood by comments he made after the World Cup accusing England of 'arrogance'.

England Squad

15 Ben Foden;
14 Chris Ashton;
13 Brad Barritt,
12 Owen Farrell,
11 David Strettle;
10 Charlie Hodgson;
9 Ben Youngs;
1 Alex Corbisiero,
2 Dylan Hartley,
3 Dan Cole;
4 Mouritz Botha,
5 Tom Palmer;
6 Tom Croft,
7 Chris Robshaw (captain),
8 Phil Dowson.

Replacements: Rob Webber, Matt Stevens, Geoff Parling, Ben Morgan, Lee Dickson, Jordan Turner-Hall, Mike Brown.

[Shifty]

Well at least the music in the stadium is good.

[eirebilly]

Well played Scotland.. Excellent penatly win from Cussiter

[rodders]

I really can't understand professional teams who think they can launch attacks of slow ball with the backs 10 metres behind the gainline.....

Penalty Scotland!

[tatterd]

hmmm "run away with it in the 2Half". A triumph of optimism over realism there oakey bloakey

[mystiroakey]

gawd sake lol

[mystiroakey]

hmmm "run away with it in the 2Half". A triumph of optimism over realism there oakey bloakey

well guessed. however we will see wont we- you may be eating your words soon enough.

[Cari]

Another penalty from Parks. At least he's nailing them so far - shame about his territorial kicking.

6 - 3.

[rodders]

Jesus I wish Wales were playing this England team in Cardiff today...

North and Cuthbert would rip this lot to pieces.

Wales U-20's would tear them to pieces Alyn....and yes I did watch last nights game.

[stlowe]

Good call ref Hartley standing up as usual

Apart from it seemed to be Ford that stood up first.

Does the law actually state 'standing up', because there is a difference between that and the first head that slips out? You can stand up with your head bent down, particularly if you are going backwards, when it is harder for your head to flip up as the opposition is driving over it, whereas the team going forward popping up is easier as it is in the direction of travel.

[eirebilly]

England have to get Foden more involved in the game.

[Cari]

Denton's looking promising here.

[Knackeredknees]

Score please stuck at work and cant acess streaming media
and so for is it worth me watching when i get home in the morning?

[eirebilly]

Denton's looking promising here.

He is a class act Cari, very quick as well

[rodders]

Jeebus neither of these sides can ruck. England are just flopping in at the side and Scotland are on their knees. Referee is just standing looking at them.

Custers service is far too slow and Parks is far too deep.

[eirebilly]

Score please stuck at work and cant acess streaming media
and so for is it worth me watching when i get home in the morning?

Scotland 6 - 3 England

[Cari]

Score please stuck at work and cant acess streaming media
and so for is it worth me watching when i get home in the morning?

6 - 3. I think the second half will be better.

Some choice language there...ah, it's all Anglo-Saxon...

[Knackeredknees]

cheers, so maybe not a worthwhile wiew in the morning

[Knackeredknees]

Score please stuck at work and cant acess streaming media
and so for is it worth me watching when i get home in the morning?

6 - 3. I think the second half will be better.

Some choice language there...ah, it's all Anglo-Saxon...

Can the second half be any worse?

[tatterd]

hmmm "run away with it in the 2Half". A triumph of optimism over realism there oakey bloakey

well guessed. however we will see wont we- you may be eating your words soon enough.

And I shall look forward to you eating some humble pie on here if you lose. The question is - will to be man enough to hang around?

[rodders]

Its worth watching for the comedy value....

[Shifty]

Lee Jones has got one of the fastest pairs of feet in the UK, yet Robinson picks Parks at 10 who has no idea how to use whats outside of him.

Scotland trying to bully England up front just is not going to work.

[trebellbobaggins]

Looks like Scotland have this, and they should with a more organised team.

Is it good that this means robinson stays though? Many bigger tests to come.

[Shifty]

Score please stuck at work and cant acess streaming media
and so for is it worth me watching when i get home in the morning?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/tv/bbc_one
Try this it might work for you. very lightweight.

[Knackeredknees]

what are the stats so far i.e tackles,breaks etc

[rodders]

Go on Evans lad!

[rodders]

Butchered that drop goal attempt

[Knackeredknees]

Score please stuck at work and cant acess streaming media
and so for is it worth me watching when i get home in the morning?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/tv/bbc_one
Try this it might work for you. very lightweight.

Thanks Alyn, but the overlords block any form of streaming media.
All hail the mighty US of A and your friendly companys

[Cari]

Well Scotland effed that opportunity up. Could've gone for a DG and two forwards got in the way.

HT 6 - 3.

[eirebilly]

Not high scoring but a very interesting match to watch

[rodders]

Jeebus that is awful. Scotland are like headless chickens and England can't scrummage, pass or win their own lineouts.

Game is there for Scotland if they can get their act together.

[Shifty]

6-3 and a chance to go to the fridge for more supplies.

Battle of attrition so far, the only thing being proved after the first 40 minutes is England can throw together a team of kids, have no game plan or idea how to use the ball and still be just as bad as Scotlands best team.

highlights of the game so far.

Listening to the Matrix music during stoppages and the moon which looks lovely.

[trebellbobaggins]

Looks a little closer than the a match last night but Scotland should be ready to open up at home.

[mystiroakey]

hmmm "run away with it in the 2Half". A triumph of optimism over realism there oakey bloakey

well guessed. however we will see wont we- you may be eating your words soon enough.

And I shall look forward to you eating some humble pie on here if you lose. The question is - will to be man enough to hang around?

its only a game pal offcourse i will be around to congraulate any team that beats mine-HOWEVER IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN . lets see if you stay around hey, good to see a new poster on here though, hopefully you want leg it and never come back after the drubbing you will receive second half

[trebellbobaggins]

6-3 and a chance to go to the fridge for more supplies.

Battle of attrition so far, the only thing being proved after the first 40 minutes is England can throw together a team of kids, have no game plan or idea how to use the ball and still be just as bad as Scotlands best team.

highlights of the game so far.

Listening to the Matrix music during stoppages and the moon which looks lovely.

Eng clearly need that coach.

Hopeful though this defeat , if it is looks to be, will be the start of a rebuilding side and a better team in future.

[Pal Joey]

12-6 FT anyone?

[mystiroakey]

trebell do yoiu do it during the rugby as well- lol

[Knackeredknees]

oh well back to work
watch it now turn in to a tryfest that England win 38 - 6

no i'm not drunk or on anything else, just a perverse sense of humour

[Shifty]

Well Swansea won away at Bromwich so at least something good happened today.

no relevance to the rugby of course.

[trebellbobaggins]

Jeebus that is awful. Scotland are like headless chickens and England can't scrummage, pass or win their own lineouts.

Game is there for Scotland if they can get their act together.

Eng not being able to scrummage with the players they have is shameful. But was it really that bad? Didn't seem it to me.

[eirebilly]

What reallt stood out for me is that after Robshaw had been walking a tightline, i saw Heartly go over and say something to him. Maybe told him to calm down a little. Well played Heartly if he did.

[WelshinEdinburgh]

I don't get it when Cusiter slows the ball at the base, when Scotland play with a higher tempo they look a better team

[Shifty]

Eng clearly need that coach.

Hopeful though this defeat , if it is looks to be, will be the start of a rebuilding side and a better team in future.

Only in England can a team go from being 1 game from winning a grand slam and winning 10 games out of 13, and sack their coach, then ruin years of hard work and start totally from scratch.

Actually Wales could do that too, but winning 10 games a season isnt a realistic prospect even in a good year!

[HammerofThunor]

Is Robinson turning Scotland into England? Relying on big players smashing in, a player renowned as a great kicker giving it straight to the back 3, A team battered another team last night

[trebellbobaggins]

trebell do yoiu do it during the rugby as well- lol

Oh yes.

Im really happy eng are rebuilding, I expect the drubbings as we do but I think we have tons of good kids and we ave to give them a chance even if it leads to two bad years before they click. 97 anyone.

[Shifty]

I don't get it when Cusiter slows the ball at the base, when Scotland play with a higher tempo they look a better team

He doesn't want to confuse Parks obviously, Parks needs to clean the mud off his boot before he kicks it aimlessly up field.

[EnglishReign]

Eng v Scot is always like this. Was really impressed with how England started, looked ominous for Scotland and then suddenly they realised they were in a game.

Not many attacking-minded players in the England side due to injuries, but Hodgson is honestly the worst player in the world.

[Shifty]

Is Robinson turning Scotland into England? Relying on big players smashing in, a player renowned as a great kicker giving it straight to the back 3, A team battered another team last night

Thats what Hadden tried to do.
then Wales went there and were 40 points up after about 30 minutes!

[WelshinEdinburgh]

I don't get it when Cusiter slows the ball at the base, when Scotland play with a higher tempo they look a better team

He doesn't want to confuse Parks obviously, Parks needs to clean the mud off his boot before he kicks it aimlessly up field.

I know, Parks has been poor, every time he goes to kick i think 'oh never mind, just give the ball away'

[Pal Joey]

Yeah, a higher tempo but not even close to the line for all that effort, Welsh.

England on the other hand have shown nothing. Scotland ahead in territory and possession... only just and the scoreboard reflects this. I can't see England bolting away with it in the second half unless there is a major drop off in intensity (defence) by the Scots.

[tatterd]

hmmm "run away with it in the 2Half". A triumph of optimism over realism there oakey bloakey

well guessed. however we will see wont we- you may be eating your words soon enough.

And I shall look forward to you eating some humble pie on here if you lose. The question is - will to be man enough to hang around?

its only a game pal offcourse i will be around to congraulate any team that beats mine-HOWEVER IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN . lets see if you stay around hey, good to see a new poster on here though, hopefully you want leg it and never come back after the drubbing you will receive second half

I admire your confidence. i really do. Let's see what happens shall we?

PS I'm not scottish mate, I'm a welsh pessimist who expects us to get a spanking in Dublin tomorrow...........

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