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Post by Dave. Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:06 pm

First topic message reminder :

Getting this up early as I'm off soon.

A great day for us yesterday as we won three golds, taking our score to 5. We now sit 5th in the medal table and with any luck could sit in 3rd by the day is out.

The main event starts today as well, with the athletics kicking off at 10 with Jess Ennis.

AND COME ON ALAN CAMPBELL!


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Post by maestegmafia Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:38 pm

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mystiroakey wrote:India just doesnt have the right gdp per head to compete in these sort of games(they have the population though)- Doing well at the olympics requires exess money- its throw away money really. The olympics medal table is a 'how big is your d..." contest really. Cricket aids and stimulates indias economy, olympic sports just cost money on the whole.

Although, the rich in India are very very rich. Mumbai is a city of absolute extremes

Reading Shantaram?

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:39 pm

djlovesyou wrote:People whine and moan and complain when Brits do badly at things. All we hear is how British people are losers and chokers, and don't have the mentality or the will to win.

And now we are winning, you're saying "Meh, I don't care, we should be winning anyway"

Not a great attitude.

No, one person is saying that.

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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:40 pm

So he's the first person to whine about 'British losers'?

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Post by Duty281 Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:40 pm

Lizzie Simmonds of GB just came in 4th in the 200m backstroke final. Top effort. Now, come on Rebecca Adlington!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:41 pm

How much money is excess money? India have the fastest growing economy in the World- the poor infrastructure is actually not that closely related and the poverty of its people is due to polarisation of that economy and a particularly corrupt government in a country that only partially exists and actually functions better as a collection of culturally separate states
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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:41 pm

djlovesyou wrote:So he's the first person to whine about 'British losers'?

I just don't appreciate being grouped together with people like that.

Most people are appreciative of the efforts of Team GB and don't take anything for granted.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:42 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:India just doesnt have the right gdp per head to compete in these sort of games(they have the population though)- Doing well at the olympics requires exess money- its throw away money really. The olympics medal table is a 'how big is your d..." contest really. Cricket aids and stimulates indias economy, olympic sports just cost money on the whole.

Although, the rich in India are very very rich. Mumbai is a city of absolute extremes

Reading Shantaram?

Read it, it's interesting but I suspect it's embellished and the writing is hit and miss. Went to India, that was the bigger clue
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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:43 pm

ANOTHER gold medal for Michael Phelps.

If it wasn't for his own performance at Beijing, this would be an amazing Olympics.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:43 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:India just doesnt have the right gdp per head to compete in these sort of games(they have the population though)- Doing well at the olympics requires exess money- its throw away money really. The olympics medal table is a 'how big is your d..." contest really. Cricket aids and stimulates indias economy, olympic sports just cost money on the whole.

Although, the rich in India are very very rich. Mumbai is a city of absolute extremes

yep all about distribution of wealth

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:44 pm

It's still an amazing Olympics for Phelps, he could still basically be his own Nation
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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:44 pm

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Most people are appreciative of the efforts of Team GB and don't take anything for granted.

I wasn't aware that I grouped you in with anyone.

If I'd said 'everyone in this thread is negative' maybe there should be a problem. I'm fully aware that the vast majority hear are very positive about Team GB's performances.

But I'm sorry if it looked like I was accusing you or anyone else of anything.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:45 pm

Got offered £50,000 to smuggle jewelry back to the UK from India actually. Might of been a con, hard to tell
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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:45 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:It's still an amazing Olympics for Phelps, he could still basically be his own Nation

I know! It shows just how unreal he is as a swimmer that this is considered not as good.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:46 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:How much money is excess money? India have the fastest growing economy in the World- the poor infrastructure is actually not that closely related and the poverty of its people is due to polarisation of that economy and a particularly corrupt government in a country that only partially exists and actually functions better as a collection of culturally separate states

well lets be honest they need so much excess money to get the infastructire sorted out first before they can start actually putting money into olympic programs. You need decent standard of living first and foremost and if they are not willing to sort that - they have no chance

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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:46 pm

It just always seems a shame to me that only swimmers can win that many medals in a games though.

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:47 pm

djlovesyou wrote:
Crimey wrote:
Most people are appreciative of the efforts of Team GB and don't take anything for granted.

I wasn't aware that I grouped you in with anyone.

If I'd said 'everyone in this thread is negative' maybe there should be a problem. I'm fully aware that the vast majority hear are very positive about Team GB's performances.

But I'm sorry if it looked like I was accusing you or anyone else of anything.

I think the confusion might come from when you said "you're". I assumed you meant plural 'you', while you probably meant singular 'you' to the person who said it.

Sorry, my fault that! Laugh

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:47 pm

Although the Delhi tube is actually easier to use than ours, strangely
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Post by eirebilly Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:48 pm

I think that GBR has done really well, all the Brits should be dead proud of their performance.

What is shocking is that the Aussies are not right up there. They used to own the pool and Veledrome.
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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:48 pm

India put huge amounts of money into sport to win medals at the Delhi Commonwealth Games. They actually finished higher in the medal table than England.

That said, they did focus on female power events and they did have to start from scratch with a couple of teams because they all got busted for steroids (wrestlers, weightlifters). They also lost a few medals on the track due to drug scandals too.

That's the problem when nations are trying to improve their world standing with sport. We see the same with countries like Azerbaijan and Turkey at the moment.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:49 pm

Damn, huge throw from Skujyte puts her ahead of Ennis in the Heptathlon
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Post by alfie Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:52 pm

Ledecky leading Adlington at the moment ...but surely she won't maintain this pace ?

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:52 pm

That Ledecky is going ridiculously fast!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:54 pm

Crimey wrote:That Ledecky is going ridiculously fast!

Yeah, that is rapid
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Post by Dave. Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:55 pm

Crimey wrote:That Ledecky is going ridiculously fast!

She's on drugs. (in-joke at the Americans) Wink Not really of course, but she's pretty much done what the Chinese swimmer did. Shows what the US coach said was sour grapes!


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Post by mystiroakey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:55 pm

djlovesyou wrote:India put huge amounts of money into sport to win medals at the Delhi Commonwealth Games. They actually finished higher in the medal table than England.

That said, they did focus on female power events and they did have to start from scratch with a couple of teams because they all got busted for steroids (wrestlers, weightlifters). They also lost a few medals on the track due to drug scandals too.

That's the problem when nations are trying to improve their world standing with sport. We see the same with countries like Azerbaijan and Turkey at the moment.

I am suprised at that. Clearly trying to produce. Maybe abit to hard!!

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Post by alfie Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:55 pm

But she can ! Adlington can't catch her alas ...

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:56 pm

bronze!

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:56 pm

Shows how fast Adlington used to be able to swim! Shocked

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:57 pm

Oh well, a medal is a medal
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Post by EnglishReign Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:59 pm

Christ, where did that performance come from?

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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:59 pm

Becky gave it her best, good on her - I reckon she'll still be happy with two bronzes. Now she can focus on her inevitable media and reality TV career, oops.

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Post by alfie Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:59 pm

So just Bronze for Adlington ...

Nothing she could do ...that American kid was incredible ! Janert Evans the second ...

Just as well she isn't Chinese devil

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Post by eirebilly Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:59 pm

That was some swim clap
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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:00 pm

alfie wrote:

Just as well she isn't Chinese devil

Not a power event. angel

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Post by Duty281 Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:00 pm

What a swim from Ledecky, she's only 15 for crying out loud! Adlington will be disappointed but it's still a bronze for her and Team GB. More bad news, GB women are 1-0 down to Canada in the Quarter-Finals and, after event 3, Ennis has slipped to 2nd overall in the standings with 4 events to go.

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Post by Duty281 Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:00 pm

Oh flip, we're 0-2 down in the football to Canada.

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:01 pm

Murray is still on course for the final.

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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:01 pm

Not too worried about Skujte - her 200 is weak and her 800 is awful.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:01 pm

GB are down to canada- NOOOOOO

come on GB

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:02 pm

North American women's soccer is much better than GB's.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:02 pm

Duty281 wrote:What a swim from Ledecky, she's only 15 for crying out loud! Adlington will be disappointed but it's still a bronze for her and Team GB. More bad news, GB women are 1-0 down to Canada in the Quarter-Finals and, after event 3, Ennis has slipped to 2nd overall in the standings with 4 events to go.

Nah, not worried about Ennis. As long as the Jav isn't awful, she'll come through, it's all about the 200m and 800m
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Post by djlovesyou Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:03 pm

It's the Long Jump I'm more worried about and I'm still worried about Fountain. She's a strong 200 metre runner, a world class long jumper and her Jav is similar to Ennis.

Ennis is much better over 800, but she doesn't want a deficit because it's so hard to claw back.

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Post by EnglishReign Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:04 pm

Where are South Korea getting these sneaky golds from. Plucky sods.

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Post by Duty281 Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:04 pm

South Korea have just won another Gold in the Fencing. GB are down to 4th in the Medals table.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:05 pm

I am confident Ennis will get Gold. Only just, but she will.
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Post by alfie Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:05 pm

Skujyte is a great thrower , but not so fast - Ennis will regain her lead in the 200.
That said , Skuyjte is having a fine competition so far , and I do rate her as a danger (javelin to come too...)

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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:06 pm

Hopefully we can pick up a few more golds in cycling, gold/silver for Murray over the next few days.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm

As long as she's in touch in the 800m, the crowd will give her an unbelievable boost
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Post by Dave. Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Look (as Thorpey would say), we will pull clear of South Korea tomorrow.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:09 pm

As long as she's in touch in the 800m, the crowd will give her an unbelievable boost. Should have got Ennis to represent us in the hurdles too!
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