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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:38 pm

Possibly. Ashton was nowhere to be seen for the majority.

Brown got caught out positionally a fair few times in defense and attack but defended well front up and was good ball in hand.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:40 pm

Tom James signed for Exeter. Great signing I reckon. he and Jess would be an excellent partnership

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 6:32 pm

Just seen that Delon Armitage has copped an 8 week ban for a tip tackle, and JvN has a 5 week ban for something as well.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:04 pm

The VEA Femi-CZ Rovigo centre, Joe Van Niekerk (No 12),

Is this a different van niekerk.....that is from the report
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:06 pm

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.rugbyrovigo.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drovigo%2Brfc%26hl%3Den%26tbo%3Dd%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D630&sa=X&ei=34UBUbfxLcWQ0AXT24DIDA&ved=0CFIQ7gEwBQ

bit confused....
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:35 pm

Ah right, I just saw the name and presumed it was Toulon's JvN.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:38 pm

Armitage's tackle - not sure it is deserving of an 8 week ban (fast forward video to 43/44min mark.

http://forum.rugbydump.com/showthread.php?8582-Delon-Armitage-suspended-for-eight-weeks

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:39 pm

I did the same so thought I'd have a look!!!!
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Post by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:43 pm

Brown got done a few times defensively and was shaky. Would not object to brown foden and Ashton as back 3. Would be my preferred choice

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:03 pm

Going round that Kvesic may be coming to Glos
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Post by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:46 pm

I saw that on a forum. Happy days

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:16 am

Confirmed this morning I think.
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Post by stnick88 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:41 am

how that is an 8 week ban i will never know.

flood gets nothing for what is probably a worse tackle, delon gets 8. the system is so bias its untrue.

good signing for glos, is hazell or qera leaving?

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 25 Jan 2013, 9:29 am

I reckon hazell may take on coaching.

Ree$ gone to Cardiff, gives owens and myhill better chance now!!
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 25 Jan 2013, 9:53 am

Agree with you on the Flood tackle being worse Nick, it really is a stupid system and Armitage's reputation really seems to count against him as opposed to judging the actual tackle itself.

Great signing for Gloucester - they are starting to build a pretty good pack.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:22 am

hamilton is a huge loss though, unless they get garvey or someone else quality then he will be very hard to replace and he is key to their pack.

they have a great side though. perhaps need a better 13, trinder always seems to be injured and tindall is pretty much a spent force.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:44 am

stnick88 wrote:how that is an 8 week ban i will never know.

flood gets nothing for what is probably a worse tackle, delon gets 8. the system is so bias its untrue.

good signing for glos, is hazell or qera leaving?

I imagine Delon's history pumped up his ban which is fair enough. If he was clean he may have got 2-4 weeks perhaps?

Floods looked worse but because of the Worcester player joining in and the Tiger hooker pulling him down it was deemed he couldn't be shouldered with the blame of the resulting position Goode landed in.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:45 am

Tindall very good defensively still though and due to the age of their backline I think he still has an important role for them. But he's not going to set a game on fire any more. Wonder how much longer he will go on for, must be getting some pressure to fix his nose by HRH.

A couple more signings and the top4 is going to be very interesting next year - think Wasps have really lost a lot of go forward with losing BV, was becoming a very important player for us.

Sarries are going to be so hard to beat with their new signings and Bath could become a decent side with getting all the young talent - just a shame that they don't seem to be able to produce any top young talent of their own these days!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:50 am

Matt Mullen is rumoured to be going to Wasps or Leicester, be a good signing for both. He's a capable scrummager and great in the loose.

I was listening to Lol talking about BV last week on the radio. He was pretty harsh on him tbh. Seems to think he's got little control/nous and is a long way from being an International 8.

Not sure if this was sour grapes or his honest opinion, he should know about 8's end of the day.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:53 am

Probably a bit of both Pooly.

I think if he played for England now yes he would bosh his way through players a bit and make yards, but he would make basic errors which can be costly.

Sarries should help him though.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:55 am

But of an odd signing if you ask me;

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8433930,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:55 am

He may progress, doesn't always happen though. Look at Andy Saul, Sarries are not offering him a new contract apparently.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:12 am

BV issue is concentration at the set piece at the moment - would say quite typical for someone of his style of play as he breezed through the age groups by purely relying on his size and power, so the technical side wasn't really needed until now.

A few sessions with Rowntree will sort him out as he's training with full england squad at the moment.

Whole of the Wasps club is bitter about him and the way BV(his parents too)/Sarries dealt with the transfer - quite a lot of animosity has come out over it.

Would be great if Wasps signed Mullan, we've been looking at him for a couple of seasons.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:21 am

What would that mean for T-Payne though!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:24 am

Competition! lol

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:48 am

Sexton joins Racing Metro.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:57 pm

Genuinely didn't see that one coming!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 25 Jan 2013, 2:51 pm

Ollie Kohn called up by Wales.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 25 Jan 2013, 2:52 pm

Prop wont be happy!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:50 pm

All available at Tigers....EQ needs EQ in deal, academy needs academy.

Sebastian Bruno (HK) (FRA)
Brian Mujati (TH) (RSA)
Simon Shaw (ENG)
Roger Wilson (N8) (IRE)
James Scaysbrook (OS/BS) (ENG)
Michael Claasens (RSA)
Sarel Pretorius (RSA)
Micky Young (ENG)
Rory Clegg (ENG)
Dominic Waldouck (OC/IC) (ENG)
Hudson Tonga’uiha (IC/OC) (TON)
Rene Ranger (WG/OC) (NZL)
Clement Poitrenaud (FB) (FRA)
Paul Sackey (WG) (ENG)

Jared Saunders (LH) (RSA)
Pieter-Steph du Toit (RSA)
Josh Matavesi (IC/FH/FB) (FIJ)
Paul Jordaan (OC/IC/WG) (RSA)
Dom Shipperley (WG) (AUS)

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:09 pm

Bruno is retiring Luke. Does Micky young still have a pro club?

Some top players in that list.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:11 pm

Has Bruno confirmed it? Still plays reguarly for Toulon.
Young back from injury on bench this weekend for Tigers.

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:14 pm

Cool not
Seen young for time.

Bruno confirmed. Google it. Saw it other day. Smit replacement . They will probably sign another 5 hookers before then!!

Bruno top scrummager and player. Darts dreadful under pressure

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:17 pm

He's done well for me over the last couple of years. Gives solidiity to the scrum. Hada great career. Had seen they'd signed Smit, good replacement. Thought Bruno might go elsewhere for 1 more season.

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:19 pm

I sold him to you with a pinch of regret always rate him highly for you .
Been average this season think its time to go

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:23 pm

Still can't see anything on Google other than one article saying Smit coming "as a replacement for retiring former French international Sebastien Bruno."

Nothing direct with quotes from player though. Could go elsewhere.

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:28 pm

Will have a look sure I read it.
If not it will have been on tv. 100% positive he is retiring

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:31 pm

Cool.

Wish the Saxons game was on tv.

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:32 pm

Im watching it now on rte 2 , might be on there site
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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:34 pm

Saxons not on tv!! Damn just leaving pub hoping to watch at the ranch

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:43 pm

Leinster in for Ford?!?!?!
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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:47 pm

7-0 Kev Mac try jackson converts
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:39 pm

Is that the end of Sexton for Ireland Johnny?

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:49 pm

Wants to be the way ginger paddy is playing here!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:54 pm

Jackson schooling Ford, such a massive gap in current ability.

PDJ & Wood munching Ire scrum

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:55 pm

Saxons backs have nothing in attack
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:56 pm

Ford is poor, not impressed.

It's Court that PDJ is smashing, good showing.

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 9:01 pm

What a ball from madigan! Sonny bill esk
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 25 Jan 2013, 9:01 pm

Wade getting shown up in the air, good tackle on Henderson though

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Post by Driver Fri 25 Jan 2013, 9:04 pm

Good finish by fraser
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