England Vs. Scotland 16H00 2/2/13 6N build up and Match thread

[RuggerRadge2611]

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Well I'll extend a warm welcome to our English cousins in our build up and match thread.

Let’s set the standard for these threads by not WUMing and having a good banter and an insightful discussion

The summer of 2012 was a loving affair as Scots were cheering on Ennis, Farrah and Wiggins. Whilst the English were cheering on the likes of Hoy, Murray and Grainger. All that is now a distant memory as the oldest fixture in rugby is set to be a highlight of the opening weekend.

So where are we? England coming in fresh of a stunning victory against the seemingly invincible All Blacks, whereas Scotland are coming into the match after a dire run of matches that saw Robinson fall on his sword.

Last year Lancaster's England was the unknown element and tipped to be defeated by Scotland who wanted vengeance for their 2011 RWC loss. The at Murrayfield game took an unexpected turn as Scotland butchered chance after chance and charge down Charlie showed us why Parks should have stayed in retirement.

Fast forward 1 year and it's a role reversal. Scotland with a new coach and a new attitude of Play well 1st, win games 2nd. I for one have no idea what to expect from Scotland in this tournament.

England though have set their stall out in the Autumn a convincing win against NZ but the quietly forgotten loss to the underwhelming Wallabies the week before swept, discreetly under the carpet.

No doubt England will be going in confident and the Scots will be... well going in with not many expectations at all.

Scotland have named Kelly Brown as captain and it's a well-earned accolade. The Sarries blindisde has been in excellent form all year and is the best choice for the job.

England are still sweating over the Tuilagi injury and despite saying there will be no special treatment it seems he is getting every opportunity to become match fit...




England Squad



15. Alex Goode (Saracens, 6 caps)
14. Chris Ashton (Saracens, 29 caps)
13. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 11 caps)
12. Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 0 caps)
11. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 11 caps)
10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 12 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 5 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 4 cap)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 35 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 4 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 12 caps)
6. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 13 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 12 caps)
8. Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 9 caps)

Replacements
16. Dylan Hartley (London Irish, 42 caps)
17. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 22 caps)
18. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 4 caps)
19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 15 caps)
20. James Haskell (London Wasps, 45 caps)
21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 37 caps)
22. Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 53 caps)
23. David Strettle (London Irish, 12 caps)



Scotland



15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors)
13 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors)
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby)
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby)
10 Ruaridh Jackson (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) [VC]

1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) [VC]
2 Dougie Hall (Glasgow Warriors)
3 Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors)
4 Richie Gray (Sale Sharks)
5 Jim Hamilton (Gloucester Rugby)
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
7 Kelly Brown (Saracens) [C]
8 Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier)

Substitutes:
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby)
17 Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors)
18 Geoff Cross (Edinburgh Rugby)
19 Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors)
20 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby)
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors)
23 Max Evans (Castres)

[Rinsure]

I reckon Haskell is a bit too muscle bound these days to really be a carrying threat but his destructive game is still very good. That tackle that put Census Johnstone on his arse being a good example

Intrigued by this - how can he be overly muscular to be a carrying threat? His pace is still good, from what I've seen.

Building muscle like a sprinter is all very well but the game is not just about straight line speed is it? There's lots different forces acting on the body during the 80 (or more realistically as mentioned above 20-30)mins of the game. I think he overdid the protein shakes, he's too top heavy and his balance is affected.

Hmm. I think he squats quite a lot, and his wheels look ample to cope, as it were. It's unlikely he'll ever be in a position where he's jinking and sidestepping a la Billy Whizz, much more likely to be hitting it up over five to fifteen years into traffic. If he's strong enough to stay on his feet, and get his arms free to offload, win.

As for flat out sprinting, Morgan went on the charge for Foden's try last year against Wales (?) and popped a gorgeous back of the hand offload. The best flat-out sprinting by an 8 I've seen was Radike Samo agains the ABs in the Bledisloe a few years back where he went in from half way. Magic. If Haskell can sprint one in like that then I'll be happy!

[reallybored]

How do people think the two teams compare man for man?

[Rinsure]

How do people think the two teams compare man for man?

We're better.

[Sugarlump]

So will I, but Billy Vunpola could eclipse them both!

I'm still hopeful that Alex Gray will rediscover some form, not least because of the echoes of a young Andy Ripley's gait when in full flight

[lostinwales]

So will I, but Billy Vunpola could eclipse them both!

I'm still hopeful that Alex Gray will rediscover some form, not least because of the echoes of a young Andy Ripley's gait when in full flight

I keep on thinking his name should be Bully Vunipola..

[Alex_Germany]

I reckon Haskell is a bit too muscle bound these days to really be a carrying threat but his destructive game is still very good. That tackle that put Census Johnstone on his arse being a good example

Intrigued by this - how can he be overly muscular to be a carrying threat? His pace is still good, from what I've seen.

I thought he'd actually slimmed down a bit with his time at the Highlanders. Almost like he adapted his physique for the quick game.

You're probably right, he doesn't quite have the cartoon superhero thing going on so much, it annoyed me that he'd packed on so much muscle it appeared to impede his ability to pass the ball properly

All that muscle takes a lot of Oxygen. That means less Oxygen for one of the most important organs in a game of rugby: The brain.

Seriously: In squash I find my thinking degrades before the muscles. Squash needs a lot of thought, as does professional rugby. Aerobic exercise helps, muscle building doesn't. How many times do you see forwards step offside or grab a ball whilst the ref is shouting to them to not do it.

[Rinsure]

All that muscle takes a lot of Oxygen. That means less Oxygen for one of the most important organs in a game of rugby: The brain.

Seriously: In squash I find my thinking degrades before the muscles. Squash needs a lot of thought, as does professional rugby. Aerobic exercise helps, muscle building doesn't. How many times do you see forwards step offside or grab a ball whilst the ref is shouting to them to not do it.

Aha, there's an actual physiological explanation for being slow of thought? I thought it was just a prerequisite for playing in the front-row

[Geordie]

So will I, but Billy Vunpola could eclipse them both!

I'm still hopeful that Alex Gray will rediscover some form, not least because of the echoes of a young Andy Ripley's gait when in full flight

I wouldnt hold your breath mate...i think that ship sailed a long time ago...

[George Carlin]

How many line breaks does 36 normally make?

George Carlin I think some England fans are getting too overly worried to be honest. 36 is more of a ball player than Manu. He offers another kicking option.

36 is an unknown quantity whereas Manu is not.

One thing that has not been talked about is the opposition centres. Will Sean Lamont give his back three good ball?

Stop. You're killing me.

Our back three will be happy for ANY pass from Schlong. Even an accidental one.

[Sugarlump]

Agreed Alex, all that extra muscle that needs to be balanced with the fact the heart and the lungs don't get any bigger

GF, is Alex Gray on the rehab bench or is his head somewhere else?

[beshocked]

How many line breaks does 36 normally make?

George Carlin I think some England fans are getting too overly worried to be honest. 36 is more of a ball player than Manu. He offers another kicking option.

36 is an unknown quantity whereas Manu is not.

One thing that has not been talked about is the opposition centres. Will Sean Lamont give his back three good ball?

Stop. You're killing me.

Our back three will be happy for ANY pass from Schlong. Even an accidental one.

Rhetorical question. I think England will give your back three plenty of counterattacking ball but most of it from deep. Do you think Scotland are going to take a more risky approach?

[Barney McGrew did it]

Agreed Alex, all that extra muscle that needs to be balanced with the fact the heart and the lungs don't get any bigger
GF, is Alex Gray on the rehab bench or is his head somewhere else?

Somewhat misleading - the heart's contractility massively increases with fitness, such that much more blood can be pumped per beat. So you have to combine stamina with strength as an athlete. Probably similar with the lungs.

[Beaker]

I reckon Haskell is a bit too muscle bound these days to really be a carrying threat but his destructive game is still very good. That tackle that put Census Johnstone on his arse being a good example

Intrigued by this - how can he be overly muscular to be a carrying threat? His pace is still good, from what I've seen.

I thought he'd actually slimmed down a bit with his time at the Highlanders. Almost like he adapted his physique for the quick game.

You're probably right, he doesn't quite have the cartoon superhero thing going on so much, it annoyed me that he'd packed on so much muscle it appeared to impede his ability to pass the ball properly

Interestingly The Hask talks about this very thing in a Daily Mail (apologies for the source!)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...=feeds-newsxml

In the article he says
'You need a robust body with a level of strength, but rugby is still a game of skill. People always ask me how much I bench-press, but I rarely do that now. After all, what exercise on the field replicates a bench press?’

Instead, Haskell preaches ‘functional fitness’, to the extent that he runs his own functional-fitness camps at a south London gym.
‘My focus is on my skills, maintaining my body so that I can perform as a player,’ he explains.
‘That’s how the All Blacks do it. Their priority is getting the skills right first, then adding weight and power. In this country we’ve been doing it the other way round."

[Sugarlump]

How many line breaks does 36 normally make?

George Carlin I think some England fans are getting too overly worried to be honest. 36 is more of a ball player than Manu. He offers another kicking option.

36 is an unknown quantity whereas Manu is not.

One thing that has not been talked about is the opposition centres. Will Sean Lamont give his back three good ball?

Stop. You're killing me.

Our back three will be happy for ANY pass from Schlong. Even an accidental one.

Rhetorical question. I think England will give your back three plenty of counterattacking ball but most of it from deep. Do you think Scotland are going to take a more risky approach?

You're probably right, rather than our much vaunted (ahem) attacking game, it'll be our 'push them back' with deep field kicks with a (hopefully) well organised, fast approaching white wall of marauding orcs (one for the kiwis)

[Tattie Scones RRN]

[quote="screamingaddabs"]

I wouldn't fancy wearing an England football shirt around, but that's a bit different.

Why is it different?

I'm sure it is, but wonder why? And perhaps a lot of the negative image of Scotland is down to the fact that you can't wear an England football shirt in Glasgow (or so the media lead me to believe), but you can wear a Scotland football shirt (almost) anywhere in England.

I would like to hear that you can go to a pub in Glasgow this Saturday and watch the rugby in an England shirt. If England win, each Scot buys you a pint. If Scotland win, you buy each Scot a pint

p.s. I've invited the Irish guy in my village to watch the rugby.

Aside from the fact that I'd hate to wear an England football shirt anyway (I really dislike football!) I don't really know. Maybe I would be fine wearing an England football shirt and it's just my prejudices being reflected?

I have no problem watching England play rugby in the pubs I've been to. Though I was a little disappointed that on the day Scotland beat SA (dismal game but a great win for the Scots), there was a bigger cheer when Samoa scored against England than when the final whistle went in the Scotland game.

I have to say that it also took me by surprise as most Scots that I know would not do this.

With regards to the football, at the world cup I was in a pub showing an England game and I found it really weird how much the Scottish got behind the team playing against England (I forget which team it was). It was very strange. Again, I didn't feel threatened at all by it, but I find it odd that they wanted England to lose so much. I couldn't care less if the Scottish football team win or lose (though to be fair I also don't care if the England football team win or lose).

Sorry for going so off topic everyone!

If teams cheer when England get scored against (and I do it but only for banter purposes) then take it as a compliment.

When people don't cheer then you should be worried.

It means England are, and have been, consistently cr ap and nobody gives a f***.

[Rinsure]

I reckon Haskell is a bit too muscle bound these days to really be a carrying threat but his destructive game is still very good. That tackle that put Census Johnstone on his arse being a good example

Intrigued by this - how can he be overly muscular to be a carrying threat? His pace is still good, from what I've seen.

I thought he'd actually slimmed down a bit with his time at the Highlanders. Almost like he adapted his physique for the quick game.

You're probably right, he doesn't quite have the cartoon superhero thing going on so much, it annoyed me that he'd packed on so much muscle it appeared to impede his ability to pass the ball properly

Interestingly The Hask talks about this very thing in a Daily Mail (apologies for the source!)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...=feeds-newsxml

In the article he says
'You need a robust body with a level of strength, but rugby is still a game of skill. People always ask me how much I bench-press, but I rarely do that now. After all, what exercise on the field replicates a bench press?’

Instead, Haskell preaches ‘functional fitness’, to the extent that he runs his own functional-fitness camps at a south London gym.
‘My focus is on my skills, maintaining my body so that I can perform as a player,’ he explains.
‘That’s how the All Blacks do it. Their priority is getting the skills right first, then adding weight and power. In this country we’ve been doing it the other way round."

Link seems to be broken, Beaker?

[Sugarlump]

Agreed Alex, all that extra muscle that needs to be balanced with the fact the heart and the lungs don't get any bigger
GF, is Alex Gray on the rehab bench or is his head somewhere else?

Somewhat misleading - the heart's contractility massively increases with fitness, such that much more blood can be pumped per beat. So you have to combine stamina with strength as an athlete. Probably similar with the lungs.

One can improve the efficiency of both but cannot make them bigger

[ChequeredJersey]

Your lungs won't tend to get physically bigger but functionally more efficient the more you use them

[ChequeredJersey]

How it happens is actually quite interesting as well

[Cyril]

As for flat out sprinting, Morgan went on the charge for Foden's try last year against Wales (?) and popped a gorgeous back of the hand offload. The best flat-out sprinting by an 8 I've seen was Radike Samo agains the ABs in the Bledisloe a few years back where he went in from half way. Magic. If Haskell can sprint one in like that then I'll be happy!

That was against France (and I missed it live 'cos I REALLY had to go for a pee ).

[ChequeredJersey]

Your heart can get bigger but that is generally not a good thing for you and can lead to all sorts of issues

[Beaker]

Link seems to be broken, Beaker?

Opps, try this one...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2267633/James-Haskell-Were-like-footballers-When-I-stop-playing-rugby-Ill-need-job.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Sugarlump]

I reckon Haskell is a bit too muscle bound these days to really be a carrying threat but his destructive game is still very good. That tackle that put Census Johnstone on his arse being a good example

Intrigued by this - how can he be overly muscular to be a carrying threat? His pace is still good, from what I've seen.

I thought he'd actually slimmed down a bit with his time at the Highlanders. Almost like he adapted his physique for the quick game.

You're probably right, he doesn't quite have the cartoon superhero thing going on so much, it annoyed me that he'd packed on so much muscle it appeared to impede his ability to pass the ball properly

Interestingly The Hask talks about this very thing in a Daily Mail (apologies for the source!)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...=feeds-newsxml

In the article he says
'You need a robust body with a level of strength, but rugby is still a game of skill. People always ask me how much I bench-press, but I rarely do that now. After all, what exercise on the field replicates a bench press?’

Instead, Haskell preaches ‘functional fitness’, to the extent that he runs his own functional-fitness camps at a south London gym.
‘My focus is on my skills, maintaining my body so that I can perform as a player,’ he explains.
‘That’s how the All Blacks do it. Their priority is getting the skills right first, then adding weight and power. In this country we’ve been doing it the other way round."

Thats interesting if it's true, Tom Wood and Martin Johnson are others who've been positively influenced by spells in NZ. Fair play to him though, he seems like a good laugh and should be respected as he is one of the few from the old regime to survive the cull.

[Sugarlump]

Your heart can get bigger but that is generally not a good thing for you and can lead to all sorts of issues

very bad things

[Sugarlump]

ischaemia = not good

[propdavid_london]

Very interesting England team named.
Pack is what it is - as expected, good to see Lawes making the bench but not sure if he is up to full fitness yet, and im glad that T.Youngs keeps his spot over Hartley - it would send the wrong message for Hartley to come straight back in.
Haskell covers 8 and rest of back row (good option to have). If Croft was fit he may not have been there, or perhaps taken Lawes spot. I think mentored by LOL its always been thought that long term - Haskell was going to be an 8.

Ben Youngs v D. Care - 50/50 choice but Ben was the guy in possession so fair call there.

Backs - fair choice, glad that Goode has recovered from injury to play.
Really looking forward to seeing 36 having a run.

D.Care offers some game changing off the bench but the remaining backs arent going to change a game for the better - If JJ was fit I think he would be on the bench for Strettle.

[Duty281]

Good positive team selection, buzzing for Saturday! We've got cracking bench options as well.

[R!skysports]

Not happy about 12 twigs -

I really rate him and think he could be your most dangerous player

Bring back bish bosh tuilani - easy to defend

Think it will be a long day for us Scots

[Triangulation]

36 and MT as a centre pairing has a lot to commend it, subject of course to 36 having a solid game on saturday.

I wonder if he is a "test match animal" ?

I desperately want him to work out. Barrit is solid but limited and we have failed to settle the 12 position going all the way back to the retirements of Will Legend Greenwood and Mike Catt.

This is massive.

[propdavid_london]

Not knocking Barritt.
But, if 36 has a good game then I am really looking forward to a 36-Tuilagi combo for England.

I'm not sure if it ever really worked for Tigers but, both players are a bit more mature now and could gell.

[propdavid_london]

Ha, Tri - you got there just before me.

[Sugarlump]

Do you think there's a lack of serious gas in the backs? That worry aside, the team looks good, all things working well, it'll be a rumbling jugganaut. Not pretty but pretty effective!

[Triangulation]

Do you think there's a lack of serious gas in the backs? That worry aside, the team looks good, all things working well, it'll be a rumbling jugganaut. Not pretty but pretty effective!

In a word : yes. This is a concern.

We could really do with someone, May, Wade, Varndell, Eastmond, someone making an unanswerable claim to that damned left wing spot and to inject some serious pace.

Care/Youngs
Farrell/Burns
36
MT
Ashton
?
Goode/Brown

There. Simple.

[propdavid_london]

That line break by Barritt against NZ showed that he has pace when needed.

Granted that Ashton appears to be the only out and out pace man there though.

However that is made up for by so many different playmakers and kicking options.

Farrell, 36, Goode can all step into that role + Brown has a good clearance boot on him too.

What is lacking in pace should be countered with a certain level of unpredictability and versatility.

An in form Foden would be good for England, but currently Goode and Brown are ahead and neither are particularly slow.

[Alex_Germany]

I hope Barritt is an honest enough guy to help 36 along where needed, and I hope 36 doesn't not give the ball to Barritt.

They probably know one of them is keeping the outside centre role warm for Tuilagi.

[Solid8]

Do you think there's a lack of serious gas in the backs? That worry aside, the team looks good, all things working well, it'll be a rumbling jugganaut. Not pretty but pretty effective!

In a word : yes. This is a concern.

We could really do with someone, May, Wade, Varndell, Eastmond, someone making an unanswerable claim to that damned left wing spot and to inject some serious pace.

Care/Youngs
Farrell/Burns
36
MT
Ashton
?
Goode/Brown

There. Simple.

Would you really want Varndell in an England Shirt? He is undoubtedly a natural finisher but having seen him play frequently at Wasps his greatest defensive contribution seems to be pointing at threats and expecting other players to tackle them, granted this has improved this season but it is still suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it but I think that you guys have better options.

[Sugarlump]

I believe good kick chase is vital to our plan and to probably to Scotland's too. I'd take an in-form Foden over the others as well but I can't fault Brown's and Goode's contributions.

Tri, out of that list I'd really like to see May and Wade step up. I've liked some of what I've seen of Eastmond but do you think that he could ever play first receiver as he did in League?

[bluestonevedder]

I believe good kick chase is vital to our plan and to probably to Scotland's too. I'd take an in-form Foden over the others too but I can't fault Brown's and Goode's contributions.

Tri, out of that list I'd really like to see May and Wade step up. I've liked some of what I've seen of Eastmond but do you think that he could ever play first receiver as he did in League?

I'd have Foden on the bench over Strettle to be honest. He covers more positions, and I think has a better all-round game.

[Jimpy]

Do you think there's a lack of serious gas in the backs? That worry aside, the team looks good, all things working well, it'll be a rumbling jugganaut. Not pretty but pretty effective!

In a word : yes. This is a concern.

We could really do with someone, May, Wade, Varndell, Eastmond, someone making an unanswerable claim to that damned left wing spot and to inject some serious pace.

Care/Youngs
Farrell/Burns
36
MT
Ashton
?
Goode/Brown

There. Simple.

Would you really want Varndell in an England Shirt? He is undoubtedly a natural finisher but having seen him play frequently at Wasps his greatest defensive contribution seems to be pointing at threats and expecting other players to tackle them, granted this has improved this season but it is still suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it but I think that you guys have better options.

Varndell is lazy, always was, always will be. He was pretty much sacked by Leicester for being lazy.

[lostinwales]

Strettle covers OC and wing - there are 2 IC's and 2 FB's in the squad so that side makes sense. (Cant help thinking if JJ is out then why not Lowe? - hes another good center/wing option who has been in and around the squad)

I guess its too early for the next guys to come in and Strettle is only keeping the bench warm for someone else, but I wouldnt mind seeing the Strettle of a few years ago turn up.

[Sugarlump]

Perhaps its just a fitness issue, Foden does need gametime, he hasn't been his electric best since returning from the shoulder injury.

I'd love to see Strettle get back something of what he was like back in 2007-2008, that was a while ago now...

[Portnoy's Complaint]

Do you think there's a lack of serious gas in the backs? That worry aside, the team looks good, all things working well, it'll be a rumbling jugganaut. Not pretty but pretty effective!

Pesonally I don't care so long as the nearer England get to WWWWW in this series, the better.

Obviously the prettier the overall performance the more preferable, but as rugby should not be confused with a beauty contest, it'd have to be treated as a bit of a bonus.

[Sugarlump]

Is Short at Sarries injured/off form? He looked half decent when he was playing


Agreed in the sentiment, win and it doesn't matter. I actually was a fan of the way played under Jack Rowell, heavy but mobile forwards working the offloading game. When we fling it about there's alot of going sideways

[Triangulation]

We at least need someone on the bench with a decent point of difference. Im not sure that strettle is that man.

[bluestonevedder]

I don't think Stretts is the man either. Of the 10 who were released, I'd rather Fodenor Joseph had retained the bench spot.

Never seen Strettle at 13! Is he any good? Is his defence up to defending the 13 channel?

[Sugarlump]

When Strettle was running at his best, he looked like a thoroughbred Arabian stallion, that was a few years ago. Not sure defence was ever his strong point

[bluestonevedder]

His break against Wales a few years back still lives lovingly in the memory.....glorious

[propdavid_london]

Strettle covers OC and wing - there are 2 IC's and 2 FB's in the squad so that side makes sense. (Cant help thinking if JJ is out then why not Lowe? - hes another good center/wing option who has been in and around the squad)

I guess its too early for the next guys to come in and Strettle is only keeping the bench warm for someone else, but I wouldnt mind seeing the Strettle of a few years ago turn up.

Lowe is just coming back from injury and isnt even starting for Saxons - not ready for the full internationals yet.

[propdavid_london]

Is Short at Sarries injured/off form? He looked half decent when he was playing


Agreed in the sentiment, win and it doesn't matter. I actually was a fan of the way played under Jack Rowell, heavy but mobile forwards working the offloading game. When we fling it about there's alot of going sideways

SL - I agree, thought that Short looked the business for Sarries - worked hard in a team where the wings didnt see a lot of ball.
I believe that Sarries dual registered him and hes been playing a lot in championship! Think he played in the recent LV cup game though.

[propdavid_london]

Whats happened to Wade - he played in last weeks Saxons game but not even in the squad this friday!
Is he injured?

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