Ongoing NFL discussion thread part 2

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Free Agency:
Mike Wallace, Daniel Ellerbe to Miami
Martellus Bennett to Chicago
Paul Kruger to Cleveland
Greg Toler + 3 head to Colts
Andy Levitre to Tennessee

[Colan (niner)]

interesting piece here. Never realised just how bad a deal the Eagles signed Williams too

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42904/309/wow-now-thats-rich-13

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Yeah we overpaid.

Don't know how you can make an overpaid list without Bushrod or Cook though.

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Also Wallace was def overpaid.

[Pr4wn]

Bushrod was hugely overpaid. Average tackle at best.

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I mean, he uses PFF to judge Williams, but ignore how much the Bears paid Bushrod, one of PFFs worst pass blockers.

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Theres also Kruger and Sealman to be considered.

[Pr4wn]

The Carey Williams deal was almost as bad though.

What's Derek Landri like? Haven't seen him play at all.

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Yeah twas a bad deal.

Good pass rusher, bad against the run. Solid rotational player, shouldn't be a starter.

[asdral225]

Just seen something about Urlacher talking to the Giants

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Appears Josh Sitton has been traded to the Cowboys

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April Fools

[crazy_dave23]

Appears Josh Sitton has been traded to the Cowboys

never gonna happen

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Matt Flynn is now a Raider, Palmer will be a Cardinal

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Appears Josh Sitton has been traded to the Cowboys

never gonna happen

Can't believe I got fooled by it lol

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
The Browns have dealt QB Colt McCoy to the 49ers. Another QB on the move

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...why

[crazy_dave23]

...why

bored with having so many draft picks

because Scott Tolzien may suck worse than Colt McCoy... at least they know how much Colt McCoy sucks

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Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe
Michael Jenkins signed a 1-year minimum salary contract ($840,000) with Pats. No signing bonus or guaranteed money. $15K workout bonus.

He'll get cut one might imagine

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...why

bored with having so many draft picks

because Scott Tolzien may suck worse than Colt McCoy... at least they know how much Colt McCoy sucks

Yeah but he sucks, and hes like 1 concussion away from retirement.

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...why

bored with having so many draft picks

because Scott Tolzien may suck worse than Colt McCoy... at least they know how much Colt McCoy sucks

Yeah but he sucks, and hes like 1 concussion away from retirement.

He's as one dimensional as they get as well. You'd figure they'd want some like Kaepernick as backup

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http://walterfootball.com/draft2013aprilfools.php?id=977

Nick writes for walter?

[Colan (niner)]

Trust any decision Harbaugh makes on a QB. Only gave up a 7th really too. A 5th and 7th for him and their 6th. And getting their 6th for our 5th means we only drop 9 places!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Trust any decision Harbaugh makes on a QB.

It's Colt McCoy. He's crap.

[Colan (niner)]

Don't care about what he did at Browns. I remember him from Texas and he is the type of backup that Harbaugh can work with.

Love Trent Baalke, a 5th and 7th for Boldin, McCoy and a trade up in the 6th. Lovr it. People can say what they want about Colt but Harbaugh can work with guys lacking arm strength and he is familiar with wco. A 7th for an back up with experience is nothing

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You can try and put on this charade about Colt McCoy getting better with Harbaugh blah blah blah.

But he's awful. End of. I care what he did at the Browns because that was the real NFL. And he sucked badly.

[Colan (niner)]

Tell me one QB that has sucked under Harbaugh? Believe in Harballke, they don't miss in that regard

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Cherries with spellcheck.

[Colan (niner)]

No bias here........

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John Skelton released.

Wonder if Harbaugh would consider turning him into the next Brett Favre

[Colan (niner)]

No Skelton is not a qb, he is a grizzly bear. Not even Harbaugh could make him average

[mikeygnfl]

Early prediction for 2014 - Colin Kaepernick leads the 49ers into the play offs before getting injured in the NFC Championship game. Colt McCoy comes in to lead the 49ers to Super Bowl success.

[mikeygnfl]

Matt Flynn will battle it out with Terrelle Pryor for the starting spot in Oakland then. The Matt Flynn trade is an ok trade, for now, for the Raiders as they have kept their picks in this year's draft but if Flynn doesn't work out they can't keep losing future draft picks.

I can't understand why the Cardinals are trying to trade for Carson Palmer though. The Raiders haven't just signed Matt Flynn to keep Palmer on their books for £13m next year. Surely the Cardinals could just wait until the Raiders let him go?

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Don't care about what he did at Browns. I remember him from Texas and he is the type of backup that Harbaugh can work with.

Love Trent Baalke, a 5th and 7th for Boldin, McCoy and a trade up in the 6th. Lovr it. People can say what they want about Colt but Harbaugh can work with guys lacking arm strength and he is familiar with wco. A 7th for an back up with experience is nothing

It's just a pity that experience has left him a traumatised nervous wreck.....

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D Fall back to Washington

yay!

[sodhat]

Matt Flynn will battle it out with Terrelle Pryor for the starting spot in Oakland then. The Matt Flynn trade is an ok trade, for now, for the Raiders as they have kept their picks in this year's draft but if Flynn doesn't work out they can't keep losing future draft picks.

I can't understand why the Cardinals are trying to trade for Carson Palmer though. The Raiders haven't just signed Matt Flynn to keep Palmer on their books for £13m next year. Surely the Cardinals could just wait until the Raiders let him go?

I was stunned when I read that we might get a 4th or 5th out of the Cards for Palmer. If Reggie swings it, it may well be the first time the Raiders have ever won on a trade...

Flynn is a useful piece. Reggie would have known him from Green Bay so he must see a starting caliber player there. Pryor won't start, but they are dreaming up some packages he could be used in. Personally I'd try and teach him route running and work on his hands because he would be a terrifying receiver with speed and size.

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D Fall back to Washington

yay!

Yay!

I don't love the move. I don't hate the move. He played very well over the second half of last season. Isn't worth the $8m he was due to earn this year but $2.5m is fine. The one thing I don't like is that it probably means we're not getting Winfield.

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Tracy Porter to Oakland

[Pr4wn]

Terrible corner.

[sodhat]

Terrible corner.

Then he'll fit right in with his colleagues

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Haha agreed Sodhat, but lets face unless we rush the passer we could have anybody at corner and they'd get smoked

Also can't believe Arizona were stupid enough to trade for Palmer. Lets face it he would've been released with Flynn coming in

Already a lot of people on Facebook writing Flynn off before he's even thrown a football. Oakland has to be the worlds most pessimistic fan base, granted the latter Davis years has probably given them good reason. But I'm excited for the rebuild with McKenzie at the helm

[crazy_dave23]

Terrible corner.

Then he'll fit right in with his colleagues

This one properly made me chuckle on a quite long and stressfull day!

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
Nnamdi Asomugha chooses #49ers and has agreed to terms, per sources. He had also considered #Saints. #NnamdiWatch

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
One-year deal between 49ers and CB Nnamdi Asomugha is worth up to $3 million.

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That said, mystical space warlock Jim Harbaugh will give him a magic potion that makes him 5 years younger

[Colan (niner)]

Happy with the nnamdi signing. Almost no risk at all. Less than 1.5m base and no guranteed money at his own request. I know he struggled with Eagles but the system he played in didn't match up well with his skills. And to be fair, the Eagles were in turmoil and even their best players looked like clueless rookies at times so I expect much improvement

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the system he played in didn't match up well with his skills.

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[Colan (niner)]

Got same response when we signed Rogers, Whitner and Goodwin really and look how that turned out. Obviously you are bias but most fans of other teams would, if honest, be happy to take on Nnamdi on such a risk free contract. I said at the start of this offseason that DRC and Asomugha will be pro bowlers this year and that is before the 49ers were linked. I stand by that and think good coaching and being where he wants to be will show the mess he has been in the last few years is over

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Whitner isn't particularly good anyway? He was always a hitter. Rogers could cover but had crap hands.

You'd figure more NFL teams would be in on such a fantastic risk free contract then. Not even Rob Ryan was that desperate. DRC had an attitude problem, Nnamdi's was physical. One is fixable.

[Colan (niner)]

Could be a surprise and he plays at fs lile he did some in his Cal days

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