Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:57 pm

First topic message reminder :

Man City 3 Hull 0
Cardiff 1 Everton 2
Newcastle 1 Fulham 1
Norwich 1 S'oton 2
West Ham 1 Stoke 0
C Palace 1 Sunderland 2

Liverpool 1 man Utd 2
West Brom 1 Swansea 1
Arsenal 3 Spurs 2

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:20 am

Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.

Me too. Classy stuff

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:20 am

See, I'd say United are a final ball away from a goal, whereas Liverpool are generally just defending. And if Giggs had been up to his usual standards, United would have had those openings.

Interestingly balanced

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:21 am

Wonder what odds a RVP red

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:22 am

Olly wrote:
Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.
Me too. Classy stuff

It would make me cringe if I was in amongst the booers. A bit sad really.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:22 am

Yeah even though Utd have been pants, they've still got into some good areas, just need to improve the final ball as Chris says.

Bar a few free kicks, Liverpool haven't really threatened. Aspas has been non-existant, need get Coutinho down the middle, so wasted out wide

by sparxz Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:23 am

I can't see any utd midfielders capable enough to inspire the team with the exception of giggs, but by his high standerds has been poor and can't see anything but a Liverpool win now by 2 or 3. Liverpool are closing down but utd defense is poor in possession , and y does cleverly want the a foot away from defenders where he can do nothing with it, but when utd running forwards he don't get in the advanced space, massively over rated.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:24 am

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.
Me too. Classy stuff
It would make me cringe if I was in amongst the booers. A bit sad really.

Yer cos Evra is saint. Falsely causing someone of racism (not Suarez) and having scraps with groundsmen. Get a grip

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:25 am

Cleverley is terrible.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:25 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.
Me too. Classy stuff
It would make me cringe if I was in amongst the booers. A bit sad really.
Yer cos Evra is saint. Falsely causing someone of racism (not Suarez) and having scraps with groundsmen. Get a grip

"Falsely"

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:26 am

I think that was a really good half for Liverpool, I think with such an early goal it was inevitable that United would start to control the game to look for the equaliser but I think Liverpool defence has handled everything pretty well, Agger has looked a rock and it's a shame this game wasn't a a week or so earlier because I think Skrtel's performance may have changed Rodgers mind about replacing him.

Ryan Giggs has been the worst player on the pitch for me, really poor, his final ball has been really poor and he hasn't offered anything defensively. Summed it when Coutinho got the better of him so he just hacked him down.

Manchester United will be glad for half time I'd have thought, tempers were flaring and somebody could have easily been sent off. Van Persie showing that he perhaps hasn't matured as much from his early angry days as much as people think, Cleverley was also very stupid, no need to give away that foul to try and get "revenge".

Manchester United need to get the ball out of defence a lot quicker because Aspas, Sturridge, Coutinho and Henderson love chasing down every ball and the best chances have come from pressuring the defence. Manchester United haven't really created much.

Need to keep concentration early on from a Liverpool perspective, can't afford to concede. Ideally would love another goal to make it that bit more comfortable, hoping to see Sterling unleashed today, looked sharp and fast against Notts County.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 am

Might be worth chucking Zaha on for Young

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 am

Olly wrote:Might be worth chucking Zaha on for Young

Not even on the bench would you believe!

by TheCultOfPersonality Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 am

Aspas has been poor, giving away silly fouls and is not strong enough against the Utd defence. Bring Ibe or Sterling on for him. That can allow Coutinho to go down the middle where he is shines.

This match won't finish with 11 players for each team, someone is gonna get sent off.

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:28 am

Sturridge. Good poachers goal that..

He is seriously impressing.And could be coming close to sealing that England spot

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:28 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.
Me too. Classy stuff
It would make me cringe if I was in amongst the booers. A bit sad really.
Yer cos Evra is saint. Falsely causing someone of racism (not Suarez) and having scraps with groundsmen. Get a grip

Liverpool fans are booing him for his role in the issues at Chelsea? Really? Olly, I need you to hashtag this fella, hes lost it

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.
Me too. Classy stuff
It would make me cringe if I was in amongst the booers. A bit sad really.
Yer cos Evra is saint. Falsely causing someone of racism (not Suarez) and having scraps with groundsmen. Get a grip
Liverpool fans are booing him for his role in the issues at Chelsea? Really? Olly, I need you to hashtag this fella, hes lost it

#HEADSGONE

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 am

Olly wrote:Yeah even though Utd have been pants, they've still got into some good areas, just need to improve the final ball as Chris says.

Bar a few free kicks, Liverpool haven't really threatened. Aspas has been non-existant, need get Coutinho down the middle, so wasted out wide

I disagree, Liverpool have had more clear-cut chances than Manchester United, United have had more possession but haven't done very much with it, think they've only had 1 or 2 shots, and both have been weak.

Aspas has been really good I thought, not likely to get much attacking-wise from a game like this but he's closing down really well and putting a lot of pressure on the defence. Would like to see him get more shots on goal, but it's early days and this performance has been promising.

No point putting Coutinho in the crowded central area for me, he's best when he starts wide and cuts in through the centre. I feel when he plays centrally he's crowded out of the game. He's best with space to work in, and I think it works with him coming in off of the left, opens space up for Enrique and pulls people out of position.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 am

I had £20 on Sturridge first goal @ 8/1 with Ladbrokes. Couldn't believe it haha

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:30 am

Ryan Giggs has been the worst player on the pitch for me, really poor, his final ball has been really poor and he hasn't offered anything defensively. Summed it when Coutinho got the better of him so he just hacked him down.

RVP was the one that took him down, Giggs actually did a really decent tackle to get the ball but the ref had already blown.
Apart from that though Coutinho has tore Giggs to shreds. Ol Yella needs to go out back I think now.

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:30 am

Duty281 wrote:
Olly wrote:Might be worth chucking Zaha on for Young
Not even on the bench would you believe!

Truly pains me to see this.. Zaha only wants to play football.. The whole PL system is flawed.. He is without a doubt a potential star and should at the least be starting for a mid level PL team week in week out!

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:31 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:I had £20 on Sturridge first goal @ 8/1 with Ladbrokes. Couldn't believe it haha

My cousin did the same. He said Liverpool will win because of him.. He isn't normally so insightful!!

Good bet though dude!

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:32 am

Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Hero wrote:Do love the logic of Liverpool fans that boo Evra because he was the victim of racial abuse.
Me too. Classy stuff
It would make me cringe if I was in amongst the booers. A bit sad really.
Yer cos Evra is saint. Falsely causing someone of racism (not Suarez) and having scraps with groundsmen. Get a grip
Liverpool fans are booing him for his role in the issues at Chelsea? Really? Olly, I need you to hashtag this fella, hes lost it
#HEADSGONE

Just stating facts ladies. Don't get yer knickers in a twist

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:32 am

GSC wrote:Cleverley is terrible.

Absolutely terrible, offers nothing. How on earth he made it in football is beyond me, bad decision from Sir Alex. Cleverley is shocking, end of.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:33 am

Hero wrote:
Ryan Giggs has been the worst player on the pitch for me, really poor, his final ball has been really poor and he hasn't offered anything defensively. Summed it when Coutinho got the better of him so he just hacked him down.
RVP was the one that took him down, Giggs actually did a really decent tackle to get the ball but the ref had already blown.
Apart from that though Coutinho has tore Giggs to shreds. Ol Yella needs to go out back I think now.

I think he was lucky Van Persie had already brought him down in my opinion, I think he wasn't that bothered about the ball, he'd just been made a mug out of and it was a silly, rash tackle. Think he'd have gotten a yellow card had the whistle not already been blown.

The problem with Giggs is I can only assume he's been selected on the right because he offers more defensively than the likes of Zaha, but he's just not helping out the right back and is stunted United offensively.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:33 am

Crimey wrote:
Olly wrote:Yeah even though Utd have been pants, they've still got into some good areas, just need to improve the final ball as Chris says.

Bar a few free kicks, Liverpool haven't really threatened. Aspas has been non-existant, need get Coutinho down the middle, so wasted out wide
I disagree, Liverpool have had more clear-cut chances than Manchester United, United have had more possession but haven't done very much with it, think they've only had 1 or 2 shots, and both have been weak.

Aspas has been really good I thought, not likely to get much attacking-wise from a game like this but he's closing down really well and putting a lot of pressure on the defence. Would like to see him get more shots on goal, but it's early days and this performance has been promising.

No point putting Coutinho in the crowded central area for me, he's best when he starts wide and cuts in through the centre. I feel when he plays centrally he's crowded out of the game. He's best with space to work in, and I think it works with him coming in off of the left, opens space up for Enrique and pulls people out of position.

So, you kind of agree with the point? United need the final ball.

Dont think Liverpool have offered much attacking wise. Id move Coutinho central because United have wobbled there, and if its down to picking them off then its limited chances. You'd want Coutinho in there if you got one pass to kill a move rather than Aspas.

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:35 am

Slashed a £5 on United to win.

COME ON RVP!!!!!!!!

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:37 am

I did the same Nick!!

odds to good- 10/1.

Come on United!

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:37 am

Carrick's a lucky boy.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:39 am

10/1 is decent odds considering there only 1 nil down. Whose that with?

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:40 am

betfair

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:40 am

Duty281 wrote:Carrick's a lucky boy to have won 5 Premier League trophies, a Champions League, a League Cup and 5 Community Shields.

Fixed that for you.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:41 am

Hero wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Carrick's a lucky boy to have won 5 Premier League trophies, a Champions League, a League Cup and 5 Community Shields.
Fixed that for you.

Disappointed in you Hero, poor attitude

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:42 am

Carrick is having a mare, get him of Moyes!!!

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:42 am

Don't think United will win this. Liverpool (who still haven't conceded this season in the league) are dominating the midfield, and United are being restricted to lone-range efforts.

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:43 am

Just never been a big fan, realise he played a big part last season but he's just not part of the fast attacking Utd that I like to see.

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:43 am

Hero wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Carrick's a lucky boy to have won 5 Premier League trophies, a Champions League, a League Cup and 5 Community Shields.
Fixed that for you.

Very true. But right now, he's very lucky to still be on the field.

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:46 am

Got to book Wellbeck for diving.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:47 am

Dont think it was either a dive or a foul.

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:47 am

Shameful that by Danny Welbeck. Should be booked for that.

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:48 am

I'd put it down as a coming together in which a person fell over.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:48 am

THATS JUST NOT A YELLOW! Every foul isnt a yellow, bloody hell (the Young one)

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:49 am

Doesn't Iago Aspas look like Nibbler from Futurama?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:51 am

I like Cleverley, but hes having a mare

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:52 am

Now Moyes has taken Young off for Nani, when it should have been Giggs.

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:54 am

They have Zaha, yet they play young(not even a winger imo), giggs(granddad) or nani(most over rated winger ever based on 2 amazing performances yet never replicated)

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:54 am

It could have any of Carrick/Cleverley/Giggs/Young in fairness. A flat midfield four is really looking dated nowadays.

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:57 am

G. Nevile: 'Utd have been too slow in their build up allowing Liverpool to regain their shape'

Well if you play a midfield of a 40 year old, a half crab, a person masquerading as a footballer and Ashley 'I was good for half a season for Villa 5 years ago' Young then that's what happens.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:57 am

Giggs off for Hernandez for me, Welbeck can do the role Giggs is being asked to do

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:58 am

Yeah i agree with that Chris.

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:59 am

United have been much the better side in this half, but there's absolutely no creativity to forge a clear-cut chance. They're missing Wayne Rooney.

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