Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

[Bull]

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Cleverly ?? Are you freaking kidding me!

[Guest]

Worry about your own team,

Palace are an asset to the league- we have a large brit/irish team, we have invested in brit talent, we have produced a lot of talent from our youth. We were almost bust a couple of years ago. We have fighting spirit, we did amazingly to get up and all we hear is the bs negatives from non fans.. (and its also your local team as well azzy!!)

Haha I'm actually 1.2 miles closer to Charlton than Palace, according to Google maps

Campana, Dikgacoi, Chamakh, Guedioura, Grandin, Marange, Kebe, Mariappa...some good British talent you've signed there

I like Palace - I don't like their fans, but that's another issue - but despite buying Gayle for so much, all they really contribute is an easy three points and the occasional prospect for a bigger club (Moses and Zaha being obvious examples). I honestly don't see you guys as an asset to the Premier League, sorry.

[mystiroakey]

Worry about your own team,

Palace are an asset to the league- we have a large brit/irish team, we have invested in brit talent, we have produced a lot of talent from our youth. We were almost bust a couple of years ago. We have fighting spirit, we did amazingly to get up and all we hear is the bs negatives from non fans.. (and its also your local team as well azzy!!)

Haha I'm actually 1.2 miles closer to Charlton than Palace, according to Google maps

Campana, Dikgacoi, Chamakh, Guedioura, Grandin, Marange, Kebe, Mariappa...some good British talent you've signed there

I like Palace - I don't like their fans, but that's another issue - but despite buying Gayle for so much, all they really contribute is an easy three points and the occasional prospect for a bigger club (Moses and Zaha being obvious examples). I honestly don't see you guys as an asset to the Premier League, sorry.

we have 20 brits and irish in our squad- you won't get many comparisons elsewhere in the PL.

and no we didn't buy moses or zaha - we produced them both!!

[mystiroakey]

and why would anyone hate palace fans. They are chilled in comparison to most others. I feel you have a grudge against a couple of local people and are just branding the whole set!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pretty sure we have a lot of British players in our squad, up around that figure too.

I'll be ashamed if we dont take 6 points off Palace this season.

[mystiroakey]

the average is about 33% olly


anyone over that is doing ok.

palace have 17 brits. and 60%

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

We got;

Ruddy, Bunn, Nash, Martin, Whittaker, Turner, R Bennett, E Bennett, Snodgrass, Pilkington, Redmond, Howson, Johnson (unfortunately), Fox, Josh Murphy, Hooper, Hoolahan

[mystiroakey]

my no.2 team(arsenal) have 7!!- 23%

[mystiroakey]

We got;

Ruddy, Bunn, Nash, Martin, Whittaker, Turner, R Bennett, E Bennett, Snodgrass, Pilkington, Redmond, Howson, Johnson (unfortunately), Fox, Josh Murphy, Hooper, Hoolahan

decent

[westisbest]

How has Bannan settled in Oakey?

[mystiroakey]

He hasn't yet!

[westisbest]

Has he even turned up:whistle

[mystiroakey]

Well we seem to have dipped in the last two games, and he started i think in both,(swansea and southampton).

I truly haven't noticed how he has played- but our midfield has been overrun and the only player that shines out is jediniak.

WE need williams, bolaise and murray back sharpish!

[westisbest]

He was one of the promising yong lads a few years ago, but has been pretty bad last couple of seasons.

Was delighted when he left.
May well come good for you guys.

[mystiroakey]

Fingers crossed for the lad. But I am not expecting much tbh

[mystiroakey]

Our midfield is just shocking in the PL tbh. Our attacking options aren't to bad when fit(williams, boliase, phillips , murray, gayle)

In the championship with zaha, bolaise/williams and jedanick we bossed the midfield in plenty of games. but we need a solid spine at this level

[Guest]

Campana, Dikgacoi, Chamakh, Guedioura, Grandin, Marange, Kebe, Mariappa...some good British talent you've signed there

I like Palace - I don't like their fans, but that's another issue - but despite buying Gayle for so much, all they really contribute is an easy three points and the occasional prospect for a bigger club (Moses and Zaha being obvious examples). I honestly don't see you guys as an asset to the Premier League, sorry.

we have 20 brits and irish in our squad- you won't get many comparisons elsewhere in the PL.

and no we didn't buy moses or zaha - we produced them both!!

If you have Campana et al, then there is no mathematical way you have 20 British players in your 25 man squad. I count 8 there, and those are just the signings from this summer!

I did say you contribute the occasional prospect, not buy, so yes, two players produced. Neither of whom will ever hit the very top.

[mystiroakey]

As I have stated we have 20 brit and Irish players. 17 brit players in our 30 man squad.

Just look it up ffs. It's not hard.

[Guest]

But the PL rules state a 25-man squad. Palace's official squad contains Bolasie, Chamakh, Dikgacoi, Grandin, Guedioura, Jedinak, Kebe, Mariappa and Speroni. That's 9 players out of 25, or 36% of the total.

For comparison, Albion (who my wife always blasts for being filled with foreigners, despite being a Spurs fan herself) have Amalfitano, Anelka, Gera, Lugano, Mulumbu, Olsson, Popov, Rosenberg, Yacob, Sessegnon and Anichebe - 11/25, or 44%.

[mystiroakey]

So we have 15 players in our 25.. which is 60%

Seriously dude what gives here. That is still one of the best in the prem what is your point?

[GSC]

U21 don't count towards the squad Azzy

[Guest]

You were crowing about having so many British players, but that was really the case last season, before you went and signed 8 foreigners for your PL campaign. Now you're one of the sellout clubs, same as the rest of us

U21s are almost exclusively British anyway GSC, Albion have tons of them. Even Chelsea can wheel out 15 English U21s to artifically inflate their numbers.

[mystiroakey]

We signed 8 Brits and 8 foreigners.

That is 8 Brits. Not one other team signed so many Brits. I don't understand what point you are making dude..

By the way. After some more research.

Palaces 25 man squad has 13 Brits. They also have 4 other under 21 Brits eligable. Total of 17

Both figures are the highest in the league

[mystiroakey]

Check out transfermarket if you need to check

[mystiroakey]

For accuracy Palace actually signed 9 brits in the transfer not 8!

the 8 foreigners is a lot far play- but to call us a sell out when we signed 9 brit players is ridiculous

[mystiroakey]

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[mystiroakey]

Arsenal (spent £42.5million on four players)
Chelsea (spent £65.5million on eight)
Liverpool (spent £23.3million on eight)

Manchester City (spent £94.9million on five)
Manchester United (spent £28.5million on two)
Newcastle (spent £0 on two, although there was a £2m loan fee for Loic Remy)
Southampton (spent £35.5million on three)
Stoke (spent £7million on six)
Tottenham (spent £97.5million on seven)







what is the link above? 

[mystiroakey]

"Aston Villa - Jed Steer
Cardiff - Steven Caulker, Simon Moore, John Brayford
Crystal Palace - Dwight Gayle, Jack Hunt, Jerome Thomas, Kevin Phillips, Jason Puncheon (loan), Neil Alexander, Steven Dobbie, Barry Bannan,cameron jerome

Everton - James McCarthy, Gareth Barry (loan)

Fulham - Scott Parker, Darren Bent (loan)
Hull - Tom Huddlestone, Curtis Davies, Steve Harper, Danny Graham (loan), Jake Livermore (loan), George Boyd, Allan McGregor

Norwich - Nathan Redmond, Carlo Nash, Gary Hooper
Sunderland - Duncan Watmore
Swansea - Jonjo Shelvey, Jernade Meade

West Brom - Scott Sinclair (loan), Lee Camp

West Ham - Andy Carroll, Danny Whitehead

[Guest]

Palace are an asset to the league- we have a large brit/irish team

This all stemmed from this comment, which last season was 100% accurate, but now isn't so much. You may have the largest % of British players in your squad, but it's still not great. More than 1/3 of your players are foreigners.

I like Palace, believe me, but look at your last game - 6 of the starting XI were foreigners. For comparison:

Newcastle 11
Man City 9
Chelsea 8
Villa 8
Arsenal 8
Stoke 7
Liverpool 7
Swansea 7
Tottenham 7
Palace 6
Fulham 6
Man United 6
West Brom 6
Sunderland 5
West Ham 5
Cardiff 4
Hull 4
Everton 3
Norwich 3

So 6 teams started less foreigners than Palace at the weekend, and three others used the same. That doesn't say a lot for the quality of your largely British squad.

[mystiroakey]

we have injuries, and we are not a PL quality team

[Guest]

Agreed on both counts. And how can you put Super Kev as a 'signing', he was with you last season

[mystiroakey]

by the way - I want to add that bolasie is pretty much a homegrown player- I know he isnt rated as one(i have no idea) 


He started of his career in the youth team at rushden and diamonds!

[mystiroakey]

Agreed on both counts. And how can you put Super Kev as a 'signing', he was with you last season

because we signed him!!

he was on loan before. that list isn't mine- but other teams will have the same situation going on!

[mystiroakey]

Just had to check out bolasie more as i couldn't understand why he is rated foreign.

He moved to this country from france at 7 months old.

I have no idea how he isnt home grown.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Palace are an asset to the league- we have a large brit/irish team

This all stemmed from this comment, which last season was 100% accurate, but now isn't so much. You may have the largest % of British players in your squad, but it's still not great. More than 1/3 of your players are foreigners.

I like Palace, believe me, but look at your last game - 6 of the starting XI were foreigners. For comparison:

Newcastle 11
Man City 9
Chelsea 8
Villa 8
Arsenal 8
Stoke 7
Liverpool 7
Swansea 7
Tottenham 7
Palace 6
Fulham 6
Man United 6
West Brom 6
Sunderland 5
West Ham 5
Cardiff 4
Hull 4
Everton 3
Norwich 3

So 6 teams started less foreigners than Palace at the weekend, and three others used the same. That doesn't say a lot for the quality of your largely British squad.

We're just the beacon of British talent

[Guest]

I think it's a good demonstration of why Newcastle are struggling too.

[Stella]

I think it's a good demonstration of why Newcastle are struggling too.

Yet their French players looked great last season.

[Guest]

When? Debuchy has looked dreadful since he arrived, Yanga-Mbiwa too, Yohan Kebab was injured for half the season and inconsistent when he was fit, Gouffran was poor, Marveaux was invisible, Amalfitano was awol, Ben Arfa was good in the 3.4 games he seemed to play. It's a continuation of their problems from last season, from which they haven't learned.

[Stella]

The second half of last season. Not sure of the day but they made an impact for a while.

[Guest]

Oh I forgot Sissoko, who had 3/4 good games when he joined but then became Mr Invisible.

[Stella]

Oh I forgot Sissoko, who had 3/4 good games when he joined but then became Mr Invisible.

Pardew must take most of the blame. I think it a poster on here who suggested he was a one season wonder manager. Looks like he is.

[Guest]

He should take most of the blame, although Mike Ashley is also to blame for those stupid 9 year deals for anyone who wanted one. Created a culture of laziness in one fell swoop.

[mystiroakey]

I want Pardew to stay on and I wish him well. I like him alot as a bloke and manager.

Something isn't right at the toon though. They should be a better club .

[GSC]

I've never thought Pardew was a particularly great manager tbh. His teams tend to fall off

[mystiroakey]

He has no individuality does he.

When you look at top managers they play a specific way. You can't really tell many managers apart and pardew is one of them. However it would be nice to see a manager stick in his role for once, maybe thats all many managers need- 5 or so years and then they may come good.

[Stella]

Pardew probably uses shock 'listen to me' tactics. This will work for so long but after that, the players become immune, unless that certain manager has other credentials.

[mystiroakey]

Maybe yes.

[NickisBHAFC]

Hmmm Pardew has always struck me as a good manager, but to be in charge of a side like Newcastle, i think he is a little out of his dept. They need someone like Di Mattieo i think.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Tony Pulis has had his odds slashed to become the next Sunderland manager.

Please let this happen

[mystiroakey]

They should go for zola

[mystiroakey]

actually i just saw marat yakin in the running as well. Brilliant manager he is!!

If they can snap him up they have done well.

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