Khan v Mayweather - 5th May 2014 - EDIT: THIS FIGHT IS ON

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2014-05-03 Floyd Mayweather Jr 45(26)-0-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA 12
WBC welterweight title
bout subject to change & commission approval


I wonder where Boxrec get their info? They do call some fights that don't get made Anyone think this one is a goer.

I have a feeling Khan is next for Money May. I thought the fight might have been in the UK but I don't know what the BBBofC rules are on injecting pain killers. Floyd talking about fighting in the UK may just have been to stir up interest and gauge the reaction.

Anyway, Khan is often suggested as being the man with the foot speed and fast hands to trouble Mayweather. Can Virgil Hunter be the man to finally put together a plan that Khan is able to understand and stick to?

The first few rounds could be interesting.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Khan: Last 4 fights.....beaten twice, struggles with 2 lightweights (one of them ancient) and yet we are expected to believe he is ready for the P4P number 1?

Silly boxing politics once again.

Joke fight against a glass chinned has been.

Remember Az laughing at Alvarez due to him being almost KO'ed by a fat lightweight....even though that was an exaggeration.....

Yet Khan gets heavily knocked down and seriously wobbled numerous times against a fat, OLD lightweight....and hes ready for Mayweather.

Idiotic to say the least. But try harder to WUM next time. You're losing your touch.

Wasn't an exaggeration. He was wobbled by a fat lw. Khan will lose. So what? So will anyone else at the weight. Unless you hate boxing or love snooze fests then this is the best fight for all concerned. Especially the fans of the sport of boxing.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:snoozefest???

Garcia is exciting as they come not to mention the prospect of his looney dad's antics would make for great viewing.

You're right onetwo. Garcia's dad makes it all worthwhile. His son is a Dover sole. Garcia's adaptability is creditable but he brings nothing to the fight to threaten floyd. In fact the only tool he brings to the fight is his father.

azania wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Khan: Last 4 fights.....beaten twice, struggles with 2 lightweights (one of them ancient) and yet we are expected to believe he is ready for the P4P number 1?

Silly boxing politics once again.

Joke fight against a glass chinned has been.

Remember Az laughing at Alvarez due to him being almost KO'ed by a fat lightweight....even though that was an exaggeration.....

Yet Khan gets heavily knocked down and seriously wobbled numerous times against a fat, OLD lightweight....and hes ready for Mayweather.

Idiotic to say the least. But try harder to WUM next time. You're losing your touch.

Wasn't an exaggeration.  He was wobbled by a fat lw. Khan will lose. So what? So will anyone else at the weight. Unless you hate boxing or love snooze fests then this is the best fight for all concerned.  Especially the fans of the sport of boxing.

Complete BS.

So you would rather see a fighter get a shot at Mayweather due to being fast for the first 3 rounds. I pay to watch Floyd so I would like to at least see him fight the full 12 rounds as he only has 4 fights left.

A fight with Khan would be cut short due to his paper chin.

When it comes to Mayweather, real boxing fans appreciate how he takes away a fighters heart and throws it away. He almost had Canelo in tears.

Thats not a snoozefest. Thats a master at work.

But hey, I doubt you have ever even seen a Mayweather fight, probably just read somewhere he was good and put him at the top of your P4P list.....thats how "whatshisface" got on it, wasnt it? The thai fighter?

So dont talk about the fans of the sport of boxing when you hardly even pay attention to it.  

And Khan can barely take a punch from a fat LW so what would an in shape welter do to him???

Khan's day is gone. He'll be remembered fondly for the Paulie, Judah, Maidana fights. But as time goes on he will get flattened more and more.

Each to their own. Watching Mayweather fight Garcia will be a replay of Mayweather fighting JMM or Guererro or Alvarez or....name any boxer.

If that's what you want to see then all power to you. I'd rather see him fight someone who will offer him something different.

I prefer to see boxers earn their shot at the big time rather than having it given to them gift wrapped. Both lose almost every round but at least Garcia has earned the right to fight Mayweather.

One can argue that Garcia hasn't seeing as he has done less than zero at welterweight. Swings and roundabouts.

He's done far more than khan it's as simple as that.

Importantly he doesn't bring anything to the table. Khan does. A Khan fight would be trickier for Floyd than a slow beatdown of Garcia.

Garcia brings to the table being the unified lineal champion at 140lbs, he also has a fan base in America with his Puerto Rican connections. He also hasn't lost two of his last 4 and been badly rocked and troubled in his last fight.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Garcia brings to the table being the unified lineal champion at 140lbs, he also has a fan base in America with his Puerto Rican connections. He also hasn't lost two of his last 4 and been badly rocked and troubled in his last fight.

Yes but the result will be the same only very boring.

But he's not a WW. Let him fight at WW before matching him with Floyd. There are other WWs out there more deserving. Alexander for one. A unification is better than a blown up LWW.

Stop changing the goal posts, Garcia is more deserving of Khan, you weren't talking about Alexander but Garcia and Khan.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Stop changing the goal posts, Garcia is more deserving of Khan, you weren't talking about Alexander but Garcia and Khan.

Them's the breaks. Garcia would be another boring routine defence. Khan will be an exciting defence. Take your pick. Which would you like to see?

As would Khan but well inside distance and for all his speed he doesn't possess a weapon like Garcias left hand. I would be interested to see how Mayweather overcomes a left hand puncher as most of his recent opponents have been right handed with the exception of Cotto who caused him some trouble.

If there was ever anyone out there with a style made for Mayweather it's Garcia. Judah landed 60% of his power shots on Garcia, Mayweather would land 120%. It would be an awfully predictable fight.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:As would Khan but well inside distance and for all his speed he doesn't possess a weapon like Garcias left hand. I would be interested to see how Mayweather overcomes a left hand puncher as most of his recent opponents have been right handed with the exception of Cotto who caused him some trouble.

One round with Khan will be a better watch that a dull 12 rounds with Garcia. A Garcia fight would be like all other fights Floyd has been involved in. Garcia could come in with his twin armed with baseball bats and would still lose.

Mayweathers cellmate wrote:If there was ever anyone out there with a style made for Mayweather it's Garcia. Judah landed 60% of his power shots on Garcia, Mayweather would land 120%. It would be an awfully predictable fight.

Absolutely.

azania wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:As would Khan but well inside distance and for all his speed he doesn't possess a weapon like Garcias left hand. I would be interested to see how Mayweather overcomes a left hand puncher as most of his recent opponents have been right handed with the exception of Cotto who caused him some trouble.

One round with Khan will be a better watch that a dull 12 rounds with Garcia. A Garcia fight would be like all other fights Floyd has been involved in. Garcia could come in with his twin armed with baseball bats and would still lose.

In your opinion, i'd far rather see Garcia go the full 12 rounds than see Khan being knocked out within four again.

Of course it's my opinion.

Would you rather see a Hagler Hearns or Benitez v Duran?

This won't be anything like Hagler/Hearns so it's barely a comparison, it would be more like Mayweather/Gatti.

Well it would be more exciting that a Garcia fight which will be like the Guererro fight.

I don't see it myself, Guerrero brought pressure and not much else, this time Mayweather will have to be wary of an opponents left hand which is rarely the case.

When fighting a LMW you have to be wary of both hands. Garcia is a good counter puncher. But then again so was JMM. Look what happened there. Forget the weight. The skill differential was massive rendering the weight irrelevant.

I can't see Garcia winnnig a second of the 12 rounds, whilst I can see Khan winning a couple of rounds. It will be like the Judah fight with Khan being more intelligent a boxer than Judah.

You can't forget the size difference because it's far easier to counter punch a smaller man than a bigger man. Garcia being taller with a long reach means he'll be in a better range to land a counter shot.

The gulf in class was too big. So what if Garcia is the taller man. Oscar was taller, Coralles was taller. All met the same end. A loss and totally outboxed.

Garcia is taller than Marquez, you don't keep up very well do you and go off on inane tangents very often.

He's not as tall as Oscar is he. Or Coralles (RIP). He certainly isn't a good a boxer as either of those two or JMM.

He isn't but he has an accurate and powerful left hook, he's unlikely to land it flush on Mayweather but at least it's a weapon he can possibly win the fight with.

I think Mayweather-Khan would make for a better spectacle than Mayweather-Garcia. Floyd's last couple of fights haven't been that fan friendly in terms of how the action has unfolded in the ring, and in Garcia you've got a fighter who treads a relatively similar line to operators like Alvarez and Guerrero. It's been a while since Mayweather faced a speed demon; the last time was Judah (Mosley had definitely lost a few mph by the time he fought Floyd) and Zab at least made it a pretty interesting fight for a few rounds.

Khan's style of flurry, get out, circle, jump in, flurry again, get out, circle x 1000 won't be enough to beat Mayweather unless Floyd's legs get heavy overnight, but it'd make a change from the dull spectacles of a fighter without genuine speed lumbering after Floyd, trying as they all do to get him to the ropes rather than make him come after them and miss with almost every shot they throw.

But, despite that, it still wouldn't sit well with me if Mayweather went for Khan over Garcia.

Call me old fashioned, but given that Floyd loves to tell everyone that boxing is all about "hard work and dedication", then it'd be pretty poor form if he overlooks Garcia. The lad deserves it, regardless of how bad his odds are of even giving Floyd a run for his money, never mind beating him. Garcia has kept his head down, worked his rear end off, defied his critics more than once and, right now, is far more qualified to be going in there with the pound for pound king than anyone else, unless Mayweather fancies dipping his toes at 160 - and let's be frank, that just ain't happening!

Khan's only 26 and Mayweather still has two years and four fights left with Showtime on his current deal. He's Golden Boy promoted, too. As long as he can win a couple of decent fights, there's a good chance that the Mayweather bout will be there for him a year or so down the line. That's what he should be working too. I don't think he should be jumping the queue ahead of 'Swift', but that's just me.

It appears a lot (well 99% of you) have actually forgotten the Khan vs Garcia fight?

Khan pretty much outboxed him for 3 rounds straight until he got caught (and it wasn't his chin that got smashed, it was a shot behind the ear which rendered his senses),

So what if Garcia has a better recent record? I would still say Khan's CV is better than Garcia's. Yes, he lost a very very contentious fight against Peterson in his home time whilst on steroids- but we can't really say Mayweather is a come forward fighter.

I would much rather see Khan vs. Mayweather. 1) because it will probably be competitive for a few rounds 2) Khan will be the only fighter to have a better amateur record than Mayweather when coming to the ring.

This is a live fight for Mayweather, other than Pacquiao- I can't see anyone else even asking Mayweather questions? A Bradley, Alexander and Garcia fight would be a one sided snooze fesr.

Recent record is all that matters, the fact he beat Kotelnik, Maidana and Malignaggi years ago doesn't have any current relevance does it.

azania wrote:One can argue that Garcia hasn't seeing as he has done less than zero at welterweight. Swings and roundabouts.

And Khan's done what??

TopHat24/7 wrote:

azania wrote:One can argue that Garcia hasn't seeing as he has done less than zero at welterweight. Swings and roundabouts.

And Khan's done what??

Won one fight.  

88Chris05 wrote:I think Mayweather-Khan would make for a better spectacle than Mayweather-Garcia. Floyd's last couple of fights haven't been that fan friendly in terms of how the action has unfolded in the ring, and in Garcia you've got a fighter who treads a relatively similar line to operators like Alvarez and Guerrero. It's been a while since Mayweather faced a speed demon; the last time was Judah (Mosley had definitely lost a few mph by the time he fought Floyd) and Zab at least made it a pretty interesting fight for a few rounds.

Khan's style of flurry, get out, circle, jump in, flurry again, get out, circle x 1000 won't be enough to beat Mayweather unless Floyd's legs get heavy overnight, but it'd make a change from the dull spectacles of a fighter without genuine speed lumbering after Floyd, trying as they all do to get him to the ropes rather than make him come after them and miss with almost every shot they throw.

But, despite that, it still wouldn't sit well with me if Mayweather went for Khan over Garcia.

Call me old fashioned, but given that Floyd loves to tell everyone that boxing is all about "hard work and dedication", then it'd be pretty poor form if he overlooks Garcia. The lad deserves it, regardless of how bad his odds are of even giving Floyd a run for his money, never mind beating him. Garcia has kept his head down, worked his rear end off, defied his critics more than once and, right now, is far more qualified to be going in there with the pound for pound king than anyone else, unless Mayweather fancies dipping his toes at 160 - and let's be frank, that just ain't happening!

Khan's only 26 and Mayweather still has two years and four fights left with Showtime on his current deal. He's Golden Boy promoted, too. As long as he can win a couple of decent fights, there's a good chance that the Mayweather bout will be there for him a year or so down the line. That's what he should be working too. I don't think he should be jumping the queue ahead of 'Swift', but that's just me.

Chris, you appear to be suggesting that styles make fights. Thats an old fashioned concept that has been rubbished. Get  with the times. Garcia beat khan, so will do better against mayweather than him.

Milky you are coming across like my semi intelligent alter ego. Soon people will accuse you of being my clone.

Khan offers Mayweather logistical problems.............

Garcia offers Mayweather rounds.........because Khan is stupid and will walk into something instead of fighting behind his jab.......

Both are overmatched but i'd rather see Khan while it lasts.

azania wrote:Milky you are coming across like my semi intelligent alter ego. Soon people will accuse you of being my clone.

Don't worry mate... It's just the broken clock being right twice a day. I'll be back lampooning you for your usual jibberish tomorrow;) 

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan offers Mayweather logistical problems.............

Garcia offers Mayweather rounds.........because Khan is  stupid and will walk into something instead of fighting behind his jab.......

Both are overmatched but i'd rather see Khan while it lasts.

Exactly how I see it truss.

Agreeing with az and truss in the same day... Better go take my meds.

Ah well. It felt uncomfortable being agreed with.

azania wrote:Ah well. It felt uncomfortable being agreed with.

Like a fish out of water

azania wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

azania wrote:One can argue that Garcia hasn't seeing as he has done less than zero at welterweight. Swings and roundabouts.

And Khan's done what??

Won one fight.  

The one against the fat blown up LW that dropped him on his arris??

That doesn't put him ahead of Garcia in contention.

Had Garcia ever fought at ww?

azania wrote:Had Garcia ever fought at ww?

Irrelevant.

You can't say someone deserves a fight more because they've had 1 solitary fight at the weight (which they struggled with) and ignore them losing 2 of their last 4, more than a guy who's p4p top 10 (which Khan is nowhere near) and is undisputed lineal unified champ at the weight a couple of pounds below having just beaten a top10 p4per as well as the guy you're saying deserves the fight more.

I say you can't say that. Obviously YOU can, because it's classic Az. A sane rational non-wum applying basic logic and reasoning can't.

Khan will be more exciting, but Garcia is more deserving.

Kell Brook deserves the fight more than Khan using this fabulous logic. So does Lee Purdy and my mate who has won his two pro fights at WW.

I haven't said Khan deserves it more. I said it would be a better fight for fans of boxing. Then issued people decided to nit pick. Who does that better than yours truly.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Kell Brook deserves the fight more than Khan using this fabulous logic. So does Lee Purdy and my mate who has won his two pro fights at WW.

Ok

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Kell Brook deserves the fight more than Khan using this fabulous logic. So does Lee Purdy and my mate who has won his two pro fights at WW.

Ok

Excellent comeback, runt.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Kell Brook deserves the fight more than Khan using this fabulous logic. So does Lee Purdy and my mate who has won his two pro fights at WW.

Ok

Excellent comeback, runt.

Absolutely. I mean who can debate with someone who reckons we should nuke a nuclear armed country to prevent them from being a nuclear power. Such genius is beyond my understanding. Try for the UN Sec gen position mate.

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Kell Brook deserves the fight more than Khan using this fabulous logic. So does Lee Purdy and my mate who has won his two pro fights at WW.

Ok

Excellent comeback, runt.

Absolutely.  I mean who can debate with someone who reckons we should nuke a nuclear armed country to prevent them from being a nuclear power. Such genius is beyond my understanding.  Try for the UN Sec gen position mate.

Don't mock we are waiting for Miliband to disarm before striking here...........

Why don't you two carry on insulting each other and digging up arguments from the closed news section. Would imagine that will end terrifically well for you both.