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Post by Strongback Sat 28 Sep 2013, 5:56 pm

First topic message reminder :

2014-05-03 Floyd Mayweather Jr 45(26)-0-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA 12
WBC welterweight title
bout subject to change & commission approval


I wonder where Boxrec get their info? They do call some fights that don't get made Anyone think this one is a goer.

I have a feeling Khan is next for Money May. I thought the fight might have been in the UK but I don't know what the BBBofC rules are on injecting pain killers. Floyd talking about fighting in the UK may just have been to stir up interest and gauge the reaction.

Anyway, Khan is often suggested as being the man with the foot speed and fast hands to trouble Mayweather. Can Virgil Hunter be the man to finally put together a plan that Khan is able to understand and stick to?

The first few rounds could be interesting.


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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:57 pm

Take your meds strongy.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:57 pm

Sorry truss, 'horrible cretin, 210lbs of beefy sh1t'

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:01 pm

Apology accepted..thumbsup 

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:05 pm

Wish you a good weekend fellas...........Here is to hoping young Quigg comes through...
and we'll argue some more next week..

Strongy... If insulting and abusing me all night has some how upset you..

I wish to apologise....Wink Cool 

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Post by milkyboy Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:23 pm

Personally. I think these lists generally suffer from a bit of inherent bias. If you were presenting them as market research you would have to flag up that the universe of contributors make their living from researching historical figures of interest in boxing.

I'm not saying that an individual historian is not capable of objectivity. Just that if you spend your life following your passion for the boxers of yesterday, and unearthing fascinating stories of their remarkable lives and times and hardships, it's tough to not let that impact your judgement. Of course the counter argument is that if you are alive during the current era but more knowledgeable on past eras then you are best placed to comment. My experience in life is that people have nostalgia for their youth and their passions.

I find these lists invariably a little biased against modern day fighters. Ketchel, but no hagler or monzon? Dempsey top 20, no sweetpea? The guys giving their views know more about boxing history than me, I'm not calling their lists rubbish, just giving my view on why I think modern fighters have a tough time getting in.

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Post by Strongback Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:25 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:"You can't take it that Tommy isn't there and Duran is"

Tommy wasn't in my list on the top 10 thread.......I don't have him in my top 20..

This guy is something.........
You just hate to see other fighters ranked beside your heroes.

You run down Louis and Robbo because you LOVE Ali.

You hate Duran because he is rated so highly when your man Tommy is nowhere even though he whacked Roberto's to the canvas.


You always pick the winner. You have no time for your fallen heroes. You have no honour.

You try and break ever argument into simpleton terms and then place them on repeat for infinitity or until your favourite loses. This has been going on for approaching a decade now.

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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:29 pm

Epic meltdown

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Post by Strongback Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:30 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Wish you a good weekend fellas...........Here is to hoping young Quigg comes through...
and we'll argue some more next week..

Strongy... If insulting and abusing me all night has some how upset you..

I wish to apologise....Wink Cool 

You'll be logging in as one of your aliases over the weekend then.

In the mean time if you are looking for something to do why not try jamming two fist up that fat arse of yours.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:36 pm

Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Wish you a good weekend fellas...........Here is to hoping young Quigg comes through...
and we'll argue some more next week..

Strongy... If insulting and abusing me all night has some how upset you..

I wish to apologise....Wink Cool 
You'll be logging in as one of your aliases over the weekend then.

In the mean time if you are looking for something to do why not try jamming two fist up that fat arse of yours.
He using his alias as we speak. He horrible runt of a sidekick is all over the place. Too much of a coincidence.

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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:36 pm

Oh dear. Plot lost.

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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:38 pm

And the gordie genius who asks for a man already deported to.......get deported. Lets have some more pearls of wisdom Einstein.

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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:42 pm

Now the grade A twerking twerp reckons truss and I are the same person. LJ you are the gift that keeps on giving.

Gimme more.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:44 pm

How many places will Jones' move up after his next KO loss Az.

Watched Poonsawat fight yet?

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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:51 pm

I get it. Well we can't have Robinson at the top seeing as he got smacked about during the latter stages of his career. Or Ali who lost to the mighty Berbick who lost in 2 to tyson.

Keep on giving gift boy. Seriously you really are dense.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:54 pm

Night Truss.

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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:59 pm

Yo jack, what's the country south of north Korea called? Need a clue?

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Post by Strongback Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:01 am

Does Truss have Robinson at No.1?

He used to reserve that position for Ali.

He even wrote an article arguing that Floyd should be considered for top spot.


He's talked some cobblers over the years.



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Post by azania Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:03 am

Take your meds darling. xx

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Post by Strongback Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:22 am

azania wrote:Take your meds darling. xx
You're doing a great impression of a Truss alias but you're too thick to mistaken for the dullard that is Truss.


Get your own identity you loser.

You're the saddest man on the board. I just dismiss your input.

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Post by azania Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:25 am

Nurse!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:11 pm

Khan v Mayweather - 5th May 2014 - EDIT: THIS FIGHT IS ON - Page 9 Nurse3

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:26 pm

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Khan v Mayweather - 5th May 2014 - EDIT: THIS FIGHT IS ON - Page 9 Nurse3
Looks like shes pumping up her boobs

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Post by Strongback Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:42 pm

Floyd Mayweather Sr:

“I believe it will probably be Amir Khan next. He has a glass jaw so that would be something little Floyd could break up!”

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Post by Scottrf Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:44 pm

Always a great selling tactic before a PPV.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:47 pm

I just do not see how this fight sells, at least with Garcia you have the puerto rican fans who will flock to buy it.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:47 pm

Strongback wrote:Floyd Mayweather Sr:

“I believe it will probably be Amir Khan next. He has a glass jaw so that would be something little Floyd could break up!”
It would not surprise me if Money does ko Khan early. Trust Khan to get koed while Floyd's other 5 opponants ALL stayed on their feet. The only way for Khan to win this is to be smart and win the early rounds. If Floyd wins the first few rounds then Khan will have to chase him, get stupid, and then get sparked.

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Post by catchweight Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:51 pm

Not a good fight for Mayweather to take at the moment. Khan hasnt fought in a while and looked shaky as hell at welterweight. He seems to have concentrating on getting his weiner out more than boxing lately. Looks like Mayweather is easing off.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:57 pm

catchweight wrote:Not a good fight for Mayweather to take at the moment. Khan hasnt fought in a while and looked shaky as hell at welterweight. He seems to have concentrating on getting his weiner out more than boxing lately. Looks like Mayweather is easing off.
He can't ease off tho.

He has 4 more fights left to honor. You can't go from Canelo to Khan its ridiculas.I know Khan has done some good work over there and adds excitment but its not a fight that will sell well in the US unless its held in Blighty where I see the hype machine going OTT.

As I have said before Garcia is the only name I can think of who ticks more boxes then Khan.

1) Hes Puerto Rican
2) Hes young and has proven himself
3) Hes from Philly
4) His dads nuts. Angel Garcia and Floyd (what did you say) senior great entertainment there.

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Post by catchweight Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:03 pm

Garcia would make more sense. Martinez and Golovkin at 154. Stipulate they cant they weigh more than 165 or something. Big fights. Khan is a soft option. Hauser will be sharpening his knife. Mayweathers balls are for the chop if Khan is up next.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:07 pm

I have no problem with the fight but the fact it will be PPV is what I think is wrong, as Truss often says every champion takes an easy option now and then.

Leonard fought Davey Boy Green
Hagler fought Caveman Lee
Robinson fought Docusen

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:10 pm

Trust me CW GGG will be a distant memory when Curtis unloads that big left hook

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Post by catchweight Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:12 pm

At this stage of Mayweathers career, meh, whats the point in Khan. At least let the guy actually win a decent fight at welterweight first instead of taking him on when he is rusty and his own trainer is criticising his extra curriculur behaviour. Mayweather has 4 fights left. Make them count.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:13 pm

He's doing nothing differently to any other boxer, granted I would like to see him face someone more worthy but nobody takes on the absolute best every fight.

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Post by catchweight Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:14 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Trust me CW GGG will be a distant memory when Curtis unloads that big left hook
I hope not. Boxing could do with GGG.

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Post by azania Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:31 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I have no problem with the fight but the fact it will be PPV is what I think is wrong, as Truss often says every champion takes an easy option now and then.

Leonard fought Davey Boy Green
Hagler fought Caveman Lee
Robinson fought Docusen
It will be ppv because it's Floyd. If he fights brook or some other donkey it will still be ppv.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:42 pm

That's the problem and why he gets bad press, each and every one of his fights is a big event, there are no big fights left out there for him except for old Pacquiao.

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Post by azania Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:51 pm

He's a victim of his own brilliance.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:03 pm

Not really, there are simply no fights out there worthy of being PPV.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:28 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
catchweight wrote:Not a good fight for Mayweather to take at the moment. Khan hasnt fought in a while and looked shaky as hell at welterweight. He seems to have concentrating on getting his weiner out more than boxing lately. Looks like Mayweather is easing off.
He can't ease off tho.

He has 4 more fights left to honor. You can't go from Canelo to Khan its ridiculas.I know Khan has done some good work over there and adds excitment but its not a fight that will sell well in the US unless its held in Blighty where I see the hype machine going OTT.

As I have said before Garcia is the only name I can think of who ticks more boxes then Khan.

1) Hes Puerto Rican
2) Hes young and has proven himself
3) Hes from Philly
4) His dads nuts. Angel Garcia and Floyd (what did you say) senior great entertainment there.
Counter for Khan:

1) He is British (thus resulting in very large ppv in the UK along with a lot of travelling fans)
2) He is young and has proven himself (all be it he has also been sparked. But he has still proven himself against very good fighters)
3) He is from a Pakistani decent. Will always sell well from that point of view with a large contingency flocking stateside to see a muslim take on the worlds best??
4) Cant compete with that last one, because id rather have Angel vs Senior on the undercard.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:29 pm

Oh, and the main thing, he is ten times more exciting and has a lot more skill In my eyes. Just needs to stop being an arrogant Kumquat face and utilise his talent properly.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:36 pm

The thing to consider with nationality is the representation in America, the PPV in this country won't be huge especially at 4 in the morning and from experience he has never drawn huge crowds in his american fights.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:38 pm

My automatic guess would be on SSBO he would at least get 400,000 buyers facing FLoyd even at 4AM.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:45 pm

Not so sure myself on that Alex, Mayweather obviously sees dollar signs in Khans eyes which is why he's going for it, i'll watch a re-run but i've no interest staying up to watch it.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:50 pm

Personally I would watch it. Purely because out of everyone else in the 140-154 weight division I would give Khan the best chance, purely due to his reach, hand speed, combinations and awkward run around footwork. Think Floyd will still win, but I think him against Garcia is an even bigger mismatch, even though he sparked Khan. Also, Khan is almost always in exciting fights, he may bring it out of Floyd to do something a little different. Possibly force Khan to fight on the inside or something, where he would absolutely smash Khan to smithereens.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:52 pm

That's the stupid thing as he showed against Hatton he's best damn inside fighter in the division anyway, he's the best from any range. He beat Alvarez, Cotto and Guerrero in different ways, he won't be losing for a while yet.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:01 pm

He has a lot of strings to his bow does Floyd, if he has to mix it up and fight a little bit closer he is more than willing to do it, as he showed against Judah and Mosley.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:02 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The thing to consider with nationality is the representation in America, the PPV in this country won't be huge especially at 4 in the morning and from experience he has never drawn huge crowds in his american fights.
plus the Yanks pay 3-4 times more for their ppv. so 250,000 latin americans in the US is more valuable than 500,000 Brits.

plus khan isn't that big a draw anyway, especially after such a ropey losing run of fights.

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Post by catchweight Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:03 pm

You would give Khan a better chance than Trout or Lara or Pacquiao? He should really be looking to push those kind of fights or else try to hammer out some kind of deal with Martinez or Golovkin if he wants to really make a big fight happen. Khan is a waste of time.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:12 pm

Lara is a no go, he's struggled with Angulo and Martirosyan two fights in a row now while Trout wont sell and Pacquiao is with top rank. The only options are the middleweight, Khan and Garcia, I expect him to fight three out the four anyway.

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Post by catchweight Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:18 pm

Khan is no big sell either. Hes the third or fourth best light welterweight with one dodgy welterweight fight. Mayweather should be looking for a tougher challenge. Trout would do fine. Laras recent form is no worse than Khan. He could make more of an effort to get a Pacquiao fight made. This is why people like Hauser drop the hammer on him and accuse him of cherry picking.

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