Khan v Mayweather - 5th May 2014 - EDIT: THIS FIGHT IS ON

by Strongback Sat 28 Sep 2013, 5:56 pm

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2014-05-03 Floyd Mayweather Jr 45(26)-0-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA 12
WBC welterweight title
bout subject to change & commission approval

I wonder where Boxrec get their info? They do call some fights that don't get made Anyone think this one is a goer.

I have a feeling Khan is next for Money May. I thought the fight might have been in the UK but I don't know what the BBBofC rules are on injecting pain killers. Floyd talking about fighting in the UK may just have been to stir up interest and gauge the reaction.

Anyway, Khan is often suggested as being the man with the foot speed and fast hands to trouble Mayweather. Can Virgil Hunter be the man to finally put together a plan that Khan is able to understand and stick to?

The first few rounds could be interesting.

by Steffan Sun 29 Sep 2013, 4:44 pm

Floyd will only fight in Vegas and who can blame any top fighter for not wanting to come to the UK given the reputation for disgraceful decisions against the away fighter

by **ShahenshahG** Sun 29 Sep 2013, 4:46 pm

Mayweather could get his own judges - it doesnt matter about that. I image the tax here is probably why we dont have massive fights.

by Strongback Sun 29 Sep 2013, 4:55 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:Mayweather could get his own judges - it doesnt matter about that. I image the tax here is probably why we dont have massive fights.

Tax is paid in the country it is earned. Most of Floyd's income is from US PPV so that money never leaves the US.

It's unlikely a football stadium in the UK will generate as much of a return for Floyd as he gets from the MGM. The gate at the Alverez fight was $20M. That's before the sweeteners are thrown in.

I reckon talk of the UK is just to drum up interest for Sky PPV.

by **ShahenshahG** Sun 29 Sep 2013, 5:03 pm

Not quite strong back, Bolt wont compete in the uk because he might actually end up taxed more than he earns for his appearance once the sponsorship and other stuff are taxed as well similar with wood 5 odd years ago. Something weird about our tax system

by TheMarvelousOne Sun 29 Sep 2013, 9:50 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:
TheMarvelousOne wrote:Khan against anyone non-British would definitely not be a massive fight in the UK. Like him or loathe him, Khan brings excitement to most fights he's in. Mayweather and Canelo/Guerrero were good fights for the purists but didn't exactly set the pulse racing. Khan brings a guaranteed KO for Money May after a couple of half-competiitve rounds, so I'm sure HBO are pushing for it and Vegas will benefit from all the travelling British fans. Bradley or Alexander would be worthier opponents but they bring little in the way of fans or following. A great fight for Khan to make some money and retire citing the fact that he couldn't beat the best so has lost his motivation and wants to lead the quiet life with his new wife in lovely old Bolton.
You clearly have no clue about boxing politics mate...

by TheMarvelousOne Sun 29 Sep 2013, 9:52 pm

TheMarvelousOne wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
TheMarvelousOne wrote:Khan against anyone non-British would definitely not be a massive fight in the UK. Like him or loathe him, Khan brings excitement to most fights he's in. Mayweather and Canelo/Guerrero were good fights for the purists but didn't exactly set the pulse racing. Khan brings a guaranteed KO for Money May after a couple of half-competiitve rounds, so I'm sure HBO are pushing for it and Vegas will benefit from all the travelling British fans. Bradley or Alexander would be worthier opponents but they bring little in the way of fans or following. A great fight for Khan to make some money and retire citing the fact that he couldn't beat the best so has lost his motivation and wants to lead the quiet life with his new wife in lovely old Bolton.
You clearly have no clue about boxing politics mate...

Care to elaborate...mate?

by Atila Mon 30 Sep 2013, 7:09 am

kingraf wrote:Waiting patiently for the thread that congratulates Floyd for taking on his most challenging fight to date

Yep, after all, how many Olympic silver medalists did Joe Louis or Sugar Ray Robinson fight?

by smashingstormcrow Mon 30 Sep 2013, 10:32 am

TBH it's not a great match-up given that there must be 10 fighters at LWW/WW/LMW more deserving of a shot.

But Khan is never in a boring fight, and I doubt Mayweather will get rid of Khan early on. Should be plenty of action, and will make Mayweather look good. Just a shame we didn't get the Alexander fight first (which would have been much more meaningful/competitive)

by azania Mon 30 Sep 2013, 10:49 am

Should the fight happen Khan will put on a better show than most of Floyd's recent opponents. Garcia would have been a shut out. Moving up to middle is not going to happen. So from a fans perspective this is the most entertaining fight out there for Floyd.

by KingMonkey Mon 30 Sep 2013, 11:03 am

At the MGM though.... I know Floyd doesn't have to travel but it would have been nice to see.

Khan will show up, smile for the cameras, get beat and go home. I can't see how it'll be any more entertaining than the Guerrero fight tbh.

by Champagne_Socialist Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:25 pm

I can't see floyd winning by KO, he just lacks the power. If he does win it will be via UD.

by KingMonkey Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:29 pm

With Floyd's timing and accuracy he can ko Khan. In fact, I'd wager that's exactly what he'll be aiming for.

by Guest Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:30 pm

KingMonkey wrote:With Floyd's timing and accuracy he can ko Khan. In fact, I'd wager that's exactly what he'll be aiming for.

Anything to (metaphorically) hammers another nail in Oscar's coffin

by J.Benson II Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:40 pm

Has this been confirmed on anywhere else other than Boxrec? I personally cant see this fight happening right now.
Floyd usually likes to fight guys who are coming off good wins and who's stock is high.
Khan would be an exception to this rule.

by **seanmichaels** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:41 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:I can't see floyd winning by KO, he just lacks the power. If he does win it will be via UD.

I think if someone is bad enough to hang their chin out on the line (Hatton), he has enough power for the KO. Can actually see the fight going similarly - bright start by Khan but finds himself needing something special in the last few rounds where a mistake will be punished with the KO.

by smashingstormcrow Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:51 pm

Of course Floyd can punch! Maybe not the biggest puncher at the weight, but he put Ortiz (albeit with his hands down) and Hatton on their arses. And as KingMonkey said, he's very accurate... and Khan's defence is poor. I actually think a stoppage is quite likely.

by Rowley Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:56 pm

Not a fight I can get excited about to be honest. Yes Amir has speed but if the likes of Petersen and Garcia and to a certain extent an ageing Diaz can render these assets irrelevant I am in absolutely no doubt that Floyd will do likewise. To be honest have not seen too much in the way of improvement in Khan since joining Hunter. Would much prefer Amir to be taking this on the back of beating Alexander as between the inactivity and his seeming lack of improvement since joining Hunter I cannot see this as anything but routine for Floyd.

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:58 pm

Mayweather wins this by KO, and for two reasons: He is exrtremely precise and Khan's chin is gone.

by bhb001 Mon 30 Sep 2013, 1:09 pm

This is a nonsense fight really. Great for Khan financially if he gets it, but he has no chance of winning it!

by milkyboy Mon 30 Sep 2013, 2:54 pm

Styles and fights. Khan probably gets knocked out, once floyd times him... or outboxed down the stretch... but if he gets himself focussed and in shape ( which his trainer tells us he isn't) he will be competitive whilst it lasts and it will be entertaining.

Garcia on the other hand loses every minute of every round.

It's not necessarily who's most deserving.

So. I agree with az. There. I said it. Wink

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:01 pm

milkyboy wrote:Styles and fights. Khan probably gets knocked out, once floyd times him... or outboxed down the stretch... but if he gets himself focussed and in shape ( which his trainer tells us he isn't) he will be competitive whilst it lasts and it will be entertaining.

Garcia on the other hand loses every minute of every round.

It's not necessarily who's most deserving.

So. I agree with az. There. I said it.

Only British fans give Khan a chance. This is a fact. Khan will never ever beat Floyd. He has looked bad in each of his last 4 fights and is getting knocked down by over the hill bums. The only reason you can't see this is because you are British.

Khan loses and probably by KO.

by milkyboy Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:13 pm

Well well. I'm no khan fanboy I can assure you. Some people gave guerrero a chance and marquez a chance and alvarez a chance. I gave them none.

Whichever, i dont think i did give khan a chance. I'm saying stylistically, I think he matches up better than most, and I've said this for a number of years. An opinion I would hold if I was from Kazakhstan and khan was polish.

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 5:12 pm

milkyboy wrote:Well well. I'm no khan fanboy I can assure you. Some people gave guerrero a chance and marquez a chance and alvarez a chance. I gave them none.

Whichever, i dont think i did give khan a chance. I'm saying stylistically, I think he matches up better than most, and I've said this for a number of years. An opinion I would hold if I was from Kazakhstan and khan was polish.

Fair enough. I just don't see Khan being competitive at all. He has never harnessed his ability and lately he is getting worse. He isn't fighting Alexander because he would probably lose and then lose the May fight. If he actually fought Alexander and won, then people might have a reason to give him a hope against Mayweather (I would not be one of those people)

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 30 Sep 2013, 5:27 pm

Style wise he has the ability to at least nick a couple of early rounds with his hand speed but that is it, he has next to no chance of winning but would probably look more impressive losing than Alvarez or Guerrero.

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 5:36 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Style wise he has the ability to at least nick a couple of early rounds with his hand speed but that is it, he has next to no chance of winning but would probably look more impressive losing than Alvarez or Guerrero.

If he comes and has a go he gets KO'd like Hatton, but I would admire him more than Guerrero who was disgracefully bad and Canelo who never had a plan b

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 30 Sep 2013, 6:23 pm

One thing we can be assured of from Khan is that he'll give it a go.

by aja424 Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:15 pm

Respect to Amir for taking on the most gifted boxer in the world right now, but apart from money I don't see how this elevates Mayweathers status. If Floyd wins, then so what, Prescott and Garcia have already got goods wins over him.

by SharkSoul Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:19 pm

It would seem Khan got his early retirement mega fight. He's mentioned on numerous occasions about him not wanting to be in the game for too long and he can't seriously be convinced that he has any edge over Mayweather so unfortunately it's all about the $s.

Easy night for Mayweather whilst also banking another £25 Million with a late KO/12 round schooling of 'King Khan'.

by smashingstormcrow Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:35 pm

TBH with the money Khan will make ($10MM or so including PPV?) I'd happily step in the ring with Floyd myself. Not sure it's really worthy of respect in itself.

by SharkSoul Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:51 pm

smashingstormcrow wrote:TBH with the money Khan will make ($10MM or so including PPV?) I'd happily step in the ring with Floyd myself. Not sure it's really worthy of respect in itself.

Agree with you smashing. I can't respect him because his motives are driven by monetary measures only. He can't for one second think that after getting KOed by Prescott, beat by Petersen (albeit suspiciously) and his arse handed to him by Garcia that he has a chance against Mayweather. Just a damage limitation night whilst listening to the $s drop in.

by Rowley Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:54 pm

SharkSoul wrote:
smashingstormcrow wrote:TBH with the money Khan will make ($10MM or so including PPV?) I'd happily step in the ring with Floyd myself. Not sure it's really worthy of respect in itself.
Agree with you smashing. I can't respect him because his motives are driven by monetary measures only. He can't for one second think that after getting KOed by Prescott, beat by Petersen (albeit suspiciously) and his arse handed to him by Garcia that he has a chance against Mayweather. Just a damage limitation night whilst listening to the $s drop in.

I agree with this sentiment. I would much rather he had a rematch with Michael Gomez rather than getting ideas above his station and wanting to fight the best in the world, jumped up little upstart.

by smashingstormcrow Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:25 pm

If he'd got past Devon Alexander and maybe won a Peterson rematch, then I wouldn't mind so much. But this fight... it just doesn't really mean anything.

Saying that, I still think it should be a fun fight to watch... a fast, high intensity fighter against a master of defense and counterpunching.

by Rowley Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:28 pm

You'll hear no arguments from me that he has done little on current form to deserve this but can't blame the kid for taking it if the chance is there. Also don't think saying he is motivated by money is especially valid because pretty much everyone who fights Floyd gets a career high payday so if we are to question Amir's motives we surely have to do likewise across the board.

by azania Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:30 pm

The stupidity that has infected the Khan haters, like cancer, cannot be cured it appears.

A potentially exciting fight and some would hate it because the challenger is somehow undeserving. Please watch UFC.

by Hammersmith harrier Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:37 pm

Well it stands to reason that you have to earn a shot at a world title rather than be gifted one, it's going to be a one sided beating from the third onwards. I don't blame Khan I blame Mayweather for picking him.

by Rowley Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:42 pm

azania wrote:The stupidity that has infected the Khan haters, like cancer, cannot be cured it appears.

A potentially exciting fight and some would hate it because the challenger is somehow undeserving. Please watch UFC.

Maybe, and I'm just speculating here, but perhaps people would like Amir to have a couple more fights (and wins) to give them some hope this was going to anything other than a one sided whooping, given in one form or another they will be expected to pay to watch the fight. Either that or they are just haters.

by joeyjojo618 Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:43 pm

smashingstormcrow wrote:If he'd got past Devon Alexander and maybe won a Peterson rematch, then I wouldn't mind so much. But this fight... it just doesn't really mean anything.

Saying that, I still think it should be a fun fight to watch... a fast, high intensity fighter against a master of defense and counterpunching.

Khan does not need to give the cheat Peterson a rematch. Annoys me so much that the loss stands on his record. Anyway good luck to him - he got a shot at floyd by being marketable. He is in exciting fights, has a decent following and a good set of wins on his record.

That said, I agree that he is on the slide and even at his best would be flattened by Floyd (same applies to everyone around the LWW/WW weights to be fair). If Garcia can figure Amir out and time him after four, I think Floyd can get him out quicker.

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:49 pm

Whoever said that it does not matter weather Khan deserves the shot at Floyd is mistaken.

The Ghost and Ortiz both beat Berto, Canelo beat Trout who beat Cotto, Cotto beat Marg, Mosley beat Marg, who did Khan last defeat?????

Diaz not even a fringe contender. Khan is not serious anymore and thats why his fight with Alexander has been put off. All his talk of cleaning up 140 has not materialized so he is seeking Floyd.

by azania Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:51 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Well it stands to reason that you have to earn a shot at a world title rather than be gifted one, it's going to be a one sided beating from the third onwards. I don't blame Khan I blame Mayweather for picking him.

Fans want an exciting fight. Khan delivers that in bucketloads. Do you think a Garcia fight will be competitive?

by milkyboy Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:52 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Well it stands to reason that you have to earn a shot at a world title rather than be gifted one.

Oh to live in such a world, where you get what you deserve and contenders fight each other to get a title shot, rather than it be decided on your nationality, whether your dad was a famous boxer etc

by Hammersmith harrier Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:53 pm

No but I don't think a fight with Khan will be competitive, Garcia has now beaten Matthyse, Judah, Morales and Khan on the bounce so is a far more worthy opponent.

by milkyboy Tue 01 Oct 2013, 1:57 pm

He's more worthy. But I wouldn't watch the fight. He'll lose every minute of every round. Khan will likely have a few moments and make it interesting while it lasts. I'd watch floyd khan. I wouldn't watch floyd Garcia.

by SharkSoul Tue 01 Oct 2013, 2:01 pm

I don't hate Khan Az nor do I dislike him to cancerous proportions but I just don't see how this fight can be viewed as competitive. I'm failing to see how it's even positive from a marketing/PR point of view. Khans track record/current streak is far from promising and not one that puts him in the spotlight for a fight with Mayweather. Sometimes fights get made because a fighter deserves it or sometimes because the fans want it, Khan of which falls into neither category.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 01 Oct 2013, 2:14 pm

Khan: Last 4 fights.....beaten twice, struggles with 2 lightweights (one of them ancient) and yet we are expected to believe he is ready for the P4P number 1?

Silly boxing politics once again.

Joke fight against a glass chinned has been.

Remember Az laughing at Alvarez due to him being almost KO'ed by a fat lightweight....even though that was an exaggeration.....

Yet Khan gets heavily knocked down and seriously wobbled numerous times against a fat, OLD lightweight....and hes ready for Mayweather.

Idiotic to say the least. But try harder to WUM next time. You're losing your touch.

by aja424 Tue 01 Oct 2013, 2:17 pm

I think if Khan was given the Sept 2014 slot after beating Alexander and possibly Garcia/Mattysee in spring 2014, then the fight is on with a good degree of credibility.
The kid probably knows it wont happen so is taking the opportunity given to him, don't blame him.
Whatever happened to showtime wanting Floyd to fight the best though?. Seemingly beating Canelo gives him another gimme and they are happy with Floyd waiting until Sept 2014 for his next big challenge.

by milkyboy Tue 01 Oct 2013, 2:32 pm

I think we'd all agree that we'd like the Alexander fight to go ahead. Were khan to win and win well, it would give more credibility. But when you see the dollar signs, you can see why he won't risk it.

Who knows, he might actually train for mayweather, he might find, as in the past that he does well against a guy who gives him room to do his work. Floyd might take a while a la judah to get control over a guy who can match him for speed. Plenty of 'if's there I know.

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 01 Oct 2013, 2:58 pm

milkyboy wrote:I think we'd all agree that we'd like the Alexander fight to go ahead. Were khan to win and win well, it would give more credibility. But when you see the dollar signs, you can see why he won't risk it.

Who knows, he might actually train for mayweather, he might find, as in the past that he does well against a guy who gives him room to do his work. Floyd might take a while a la judah to get control over a guy who can match him for speed. Plenty of 'if's there I know.

Judah gave Floyd some problems with his left in the first half of the fight but Money as always finds a way down the stretch to nick the fight away ala De La Hoya.

Mayweather is very focused in the ring but Khan will not win this by close points decision, Floyd will always get the nod in that respect. Khan needs to ko Mayweather or stop him to win.

by azania Tue 01 Oct 2013, 3:15 pm

SharkSoul wrote:I don't hate Khan Az nor do I dislike him to cancerous proportions but I just don't see how this fight can be viewed as competitive. I'm failing to see how it's even positive from a marketing/PR point of view. Khans track record/current streak is far from promising and not one that puts him in the spotlight for a fight with Mayweather. Sometimes fights get made because a fighter deserves it or sometimes because the fans want it, Khan of which falls into neither category.

Show me an opponent for Floyd who will present a challenge. Unless he goes up to mw which shouldn't happen and won't happen. Garcia is more worthy. But if you want to see a 12 round precession then all power to you. Personally when a champ is so dominant I want to see a good fight. I'd rather watch 4 rounds of excitement than a 12 round snoozefest because one guy deserves a payday.

What of the fans?

by azania Tue 01 Oct 2013, 3:19 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:No but I don't think a fight with Khan will be competitive, Garcia has now beaten Matthyse, Judah, Morales and Khan on the bounce so is a far more worthy opponent.

And you think that would be competitive?

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 01 Oct 2013, 3:22 pm

snoozefest???

Garcia is exciting as they come not to mention the prospect of his looney dad's antics would make for great viewing.

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