We Go Again! The 2014/15 Premier League Thread
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such a shame Strootman got injured before the world cup. Think he'd be at the club otherwise. He should have been here last summer along with thiago but we ballsed it up and ended up with fellaini.
such a shame Strootman got injured before the world cup. Think he'd be at the club otherwise. He should have been here last summer along with thiago but we ballsed it up and ended up with fellaini.
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It would have been a perfect time for Wenger to walk after that cup final win last year. However, he's still struggling on.
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"Struggling on" is a bit of a stretch. 3 games in
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I agree, should of 100% left after FA Cup on a high.
But 3 games in, too early to get on the blokes back.
Palace (H) - Played awful, but got the 3 points.
Everton (A) - Superb point.
Leciester (A) - Very, very lucky to get a point.
But 3 games in, too early to get on the blokes back.
Palace (H) - Played awful, but got the 3 points.
Everton (A) - Superb point.
Leciester (A) - Very, very lucky to get a point.
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Brad friedel on motd2, ruining the absolute slaughtering spurs performance deserved.
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Villa looked good. Happy for Lambert, a manager I like.
Saying that, and I like Bruce too, but 3 at the back is not a smart move against a front three of Weimann, Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia. Davies and McShane getting pulled wide against proper speed merchants, and the Villa front men are wonderfully fluid when they're on form.
Saying that, and I like Bruce too, but 3 at the back is not a smart move against a front three of Weimann, Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia. Davies and McShane getting pulled wide against proper speed merchants, and the Villa front men are wonderfully fluid when they're on form.
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Lambert's a brilliant manager I don't know how many times I gotta say this. He's getting barely anything in terms of resources at Villa, but is keeping them comfortably mid table
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Lambo for MUFC!
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Spurs actually were keeping the ball well. They were just too poor in the final third and so easy to mark.
Arsenal SOLD Vela and KEPT Sanogo
Arsenal SOLD Vela and KEPT Sanogo
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It might not be the worst thing that Arsenal are struggling while the window is still open. This may provide Wenger the impetus to go out there and really get a striker. Kos was to blame for the LC goal and one can take that with a grain of salt as he did have a concussion and was taken out moments later. A poor performance from Ramsey, as Ramsey goes so do the gunners. Podolski should have been in there as the striker and not Ya ya that is pretty obvious. Cazorla was our best player so I don't know why he was subbed.
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Its the final day of Transfers..
Friars looks to be coming to palace from Tottenham.
I dont know much about him at all but we need a LB.
Friars looks to be coming to palace from Tottenham.
I dont know much about him at all but we need a LB.
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To be fair to Arsenal, they tried to get Vela back and he said he didn't want to.
I don't think Spurs were actually that bad.
I don't think Spurs were actually that bad.
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mystiroakey wrote:Its the final day of Transfers..
Friars looks to be coming to palace from Tottenham.
I dont know much about him at all but we need a LB.
SSN reporting deal for McArthur of Wigan agreed.
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Olly wrote:Lambert's a brilliant manager I don't know how many times I gotta say this. He's getting barely anything in terms of resources at Villa, but is keeping them comfortably mid table
I think your only saying this because of what he did for Norwich.
Not done alot in the prem to say he is brilliant.
WE're 3rd and its been great, but lets not get carried away.
Will see how we do come may.
Still say there is no way we will go down(although you cant blame people for putting us as one of the hree to go down).
Definatly think Keane has had an early influence.
I would love it if we do well this season, if we do it wont all be down to Lambert.
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Ent wrote:mystiroakey wrote:Its the final day of Transfers..
Friars looks to be coming to palace from Tottenham.
I dont know much about him at all but we need a LB.
SSN reporting deal for McArthur of Wigan agreed.
7m...
ermmm. not sure about this- but we need a midfielder alongside jedi. I suppose we have to pay what we have to pay.
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Defoe is coming back home.. Qpr I suppose.
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Defoe?? Ameobi and Heskey will be flying back next.. Past his best.
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Villa are only doing well cause Roy Keane is in that dug out. I would hate to play bad with him there!
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Yep he probably works best as the managers pit bull rather than the one that actually makes the decisions.
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Roy Keane - Chief Whip.
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No wonder Cleverley doesn't want to go there.
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We dont actually need another midfielder.
Another forward is whats needed at VP.
Another forward is whats needed at VP.
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Arsenal get welbeck at 16..
Decent price.
Decent price.
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Well that's one way of paying for this Falcao deal, for once we've seen a weakness in a buyer and got maximum value for a player. I like Welbeck and think his pace is something we're lacking but you can't turn down £16mil for a player who isn't a great finisher.
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I think arsenal have had a result tbh. He will go at the same rate as giroud if not better.
Arsenal will not waste him on the wing. He will only play as a striker.
Arsenal will not waste him on the wing. He will only play as a striker.
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55 minutes for deals to be completed. That Falcao one has been going since midday hasn't it?
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Cleverly not going Everton. Unlucky united
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I suppose welbeck may not complete unless falcao does. Maybe there is a problem.
Everton pull out on Cleverly. He should have gone villa. He wont get a game
Everton pull out on Cleverly. He should have gone villa. He wont get a game
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Crimey wrote:55 minutes for deals to be completed. That Falcao one has been going since midday hasn't it?
Earlier, I'd say 10am. I just happened to put on my TV when I woke up and it was on the teletext.
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Apparently Cleverley is demanding £80,000 which is putting off a lot of people and rightly so.
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I think Cleverley has just hammered the last nail into his career there and then, happy to see out the final year of his contract for the money, he'll barely play and end up getting paid far less next summer.
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Ricards of to Italy. Good on the lad.. Fingers crossed for him.
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:I think Cleverley has just hammered the last nail into his career there and then, happy to see out the final year of his contract for the money, he'll barely play and end up getting paid far less next summer.
Bang on. Literally can't stand that t***! Hope he rots in the reserves, then ends up in lower leagues, where he belongs. Still can't get over how many times he played for our country.
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Man u seem to really have dropped the bomb in not getting rid of enough players.
I can also see falcao failing and then they will probably pull welbeck back.
They have to be 100% sure falcao is fully recovered on a one year deal.
I can also see falcao failing and then they will probably pull welbeck back.
They have to be 100% sure falcao is fully recovered on a one year deal.
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Surprised Newcastle let Yanga Mbiwa go without a replacement. I know he ain't great but need a replacement (yes im aware im an Arsenal fan saying that)
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Looks like the deals will go through. Falcao has past the medical. When that deal is signed they will all welbeck out.
Welbeck and Hernandez could he playing CL football. The irony!!
Welbeck and Hernandez could he playing CL football. The irony!!
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I thought if the deals weren't completed by midnight it was tough, what's the point in having these deadlines if they're going to be ignored.
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Wow, Man U is spending like the dickens. I bet Moyes is wondering why didn't I get a 100 million pounds of spending in the transfer window before I came along? Still United have strengthended immeasurably in terms of talent. I didn't think Welbeck was worth 20 plus million, but for 16 million for a young forward with some potential and some goals in the premier league I think Arsenal did a good bit of business. Still Chelsea and United strengthened a lot more than we did this window.
It is kind of funny that United people just a few weeks ago were arguing with me that United don't make big signings of continental players typically over the years. Well they have made two huge signings in the last month of continental superstars from big clubs. Can't see them not getting back to the CL this year with Rooney, RVP, Mata, Falcao, and Di Maria. Plus the other guys they brought in.
It is kind of funny that United people just a few weeks ago were arguing with me that United don't make big signings of continental players typically over the years. Well they have made two huge signings in the last month of continental superstars from big clubs. Can't see them not getting back to the CL this year with Rooney, RVP, Mata, Falcao, and Di Maria. Plus the other guys they brought in.
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I think there's two factors as to why the big spend from Utd:
1. Necessity, it had to be done after years of neglect on the squad whilst City, Chelsea and yes Arsenal & Liverpool overtook us with purchases. Simply put Fergie's last few years of transfers were more miss than hit.
2. We can. I don't think this is a one-off repair job this summer, the amount of sponsor deals that Woodward has got may be laughed at, but going forward the debt will be gone, the Glazers can dip in and get their pennies but Utd can match and beat Chelsea/City each summer as the FFP won't affect them to the same extent, even with Falcao on uber wages we still have the lowest wage ratio in the league.
1. Necessity, it had to be done after years of neglect on the squad whilst City, Chelsea and yes Arsenal & Liverpool overtook us with purchases. Simply put Fergie's last few years of transfers were more miss than hit.
2. We can. I don't think this is a one-off repair job this summer, the amount of sponsor deals that Woodward has got may be laughed at, but going forward the debt will be gone, the Glazers can dip in and get their pennies but Utd can match and beat Chelsea/City each summer as the FFP won't affect them to the same extent, even with Falcao on uber wages we still have the lowest wage ratio in the league.
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Hero wrote:I think there's two factors as to why the big spend from Utd:
1. Necessity, it had to be done after years of neglect on the squad whilst City, Chelsea and yes Arsenal & Liverpool overtook us with purchases. Simply put Fergie's last few years of transfers were more miss than hit.
2. We can. I don't think this is a one-off repair job this summer, the amount of sponsor deals that Woodward has got may be laughed at, but going forward the debt will be gone, the Glazers can dip in and get their pennies but Utd can match and beat Chelsea/City each summer as the FFP won't affect them to the same extent, even with Falcao on uber wages we still have the lowest wage ratio in the league.
I agree with this post, United generate more revenue than anyone else in the premier league so if FFP is enforced they will be able to outmuscle the rich daddy clubs Chelsea and Man City. We have already seen that Man City has not brought in players like they used to in the past and has been the quietest of the big clubs this transfer window. Arsenal also should benefit from FFP because after United on a lesser scale to United we have some of the same advantages of being a big revenue generating club with a large global brand. We can't out spend the mad sheik or Dr. No Abramovich but as a club we can match them in real revenues.
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Arsenal have begun to flex their financial muscles in the past couple of years with a couple of statement purchases in Sanchez and Ozil, they know two they can use the FFP to their benefit like Utd but obviously to a lesser extent. Chelsea and City are and will be be doing their damnedest over the coming years to get the business deals in place like Utd to counteract the FFP.
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In fairness to City, they've signed who they needed to.
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Man u are pressured to get back in the Cl though or there sponsership (its based on hitting CL or it goes down)and lack of CL money plus less merchandise sales and lower league position could take 80m plus of there revenue..socal1976 wrote:Hero wrote:I think there's two factors as to why the big spend from Utd:
1. Necessity, it had to be done after years of neglect on the squad whilst City, Chelsea and yes Arsenal & Liverpool overtook us with purchases. Simply put Fergie's last few years of transfers were more miss than hit.
2. We can. I don't think this is a one-off repair job this summer, the amount of sponsor deals that Woodward has got may be laughed at, but going forward the debt will be gone, the Glazers can dip in and get their pennies but Utd can match and beat Chelsea/City each summer as the FFP won't affect them to the same extent, even with Falcao on uber wages we still have the lowest wage ratio in the league.
I agree with this post, United generate more revenue than anyone else in the premier league so if FFP is enforced they will be able to outmuscle the rich daddy clubs Chelsea and Man City. We have already seen that Man City has not brought in players like they used to in the past and has been the quietest of the big clubs this transfer window. Arsenal also should benefit from FFP because after United on a lesser scale to United we have some of the same advantages of being a big revenue generating club with a large global brand. We can't out spend the mad sheik or Dr. No Abramovich but as a club we can match them in real revenues.
This bold move needs to work.
I am very pleased as a palace fan after the recent nightmares.. We got the LB and CM. Gayle is going to be featuring. Zaha back.. We didn't lose punch ,bolasie ,Jedi, dann or ward. We have a better squad even if we don't have TP.
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If we keep having summers like this one we'll be untouchable. Net spend of £3.1m for the summer. £-7.3m without Remy.
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Somehow I suspect 50m for David Luiz won't be a yearly thing
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Yep you smashed it . you can thank PSG and athletics for that.
Costa at 32m and Luis gone for 50.. Deals of the season
Costa at 32m and Luis gone for 50.. Deals of the season
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Without question CFCNick chelsea had the best window. Remy, Costa, and Fabregas while dumping Mata and Luiz for way more than they are worth shows that Jose understands the transfer market as well as the tactics to be successful. He is a great manager no question.
Mysti, if United fail to make CL again these rich commercial deals as you pointed out will be reduced greatly in value. But I honestly think they will get there once players get used to the new system and the transfers settle in. Could see them finishing as high as second.
Is Wenger shattering the myth that he won't spend?
Mysti, if United fail to make CL again these rich commercial deals as you pointed out will be reduced greatly in value. But I honestly think they will get there once players get used to the new system and the transfers settle in. Could see them finishing as high as second.
Is Wenger shattering the myth that he won't spend?
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GSC wrote:Somehow I suspect 50m for David Luiz won't be a yearly thing
Yes. But we still have the players that could command large fees when it comes to selling.
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Difference being is you sold a defender who cannot perform the most of jobs required (defending) for the World record fee for a defender.
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Wenger spends, no denying that, he just buys the wrong type of player. I can't believe the positivity on the Welbeck deal, basically you needed a top prolific striker, Sanchez isn't it, you went into the market again to get one & you signed Welbeck, pure comedy spending £50m & still not having the right striker. Welbeck wasn't good enough for a seventh placed United & he can't hit a barn door, now he's given the job of making the difference for Arsenal to help win a league. Midfield has been ignored defensively, fully expect the same kind of results away for Arsenal. I just look at Arsenal & see clone after clone after clone of pacey wide men like Sanchez, Welbeck, Walcott & Oxlade. Another year of league disappointment.
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