We Go Again! The 2014/15 Premier League Thread

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

Yeah that definitely has a point and relevance. It shows how ludicrous a comment that is.

by kingraf Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:44 pm

He's Spanish in the Kevin Pietersen way, I guess. Anyway, I think by now everyone knows my love for Aguero is exceeded only by Mystiroakey's love for Zaha..
but even then, Aguero is totes going to win this battle, he has to, I put money on it

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:49 pm

Burnley playing very well, quite an entertaining game for 0-0

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:08 pm

Everton 2-0 Aston Villa -Romelu Lukaku
Burnley 0-2 West Ham - Enner Valencia
Arsenal 1-2 Hull - Abel Hernandez picard

Palaca 0-2 Chelsea - Cesc Fabregas

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:38 pm

Pathetic by Sunderland.

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:46 pm

8-0. Good luck explaining this one Gustavo.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:58 pm

Deserved win, but what a game. About 40 shots in the game. Sakho five in his last five games, six in six starts for the club. Enner gets one and then even Carlton gets in on the act.

Top four

by socal1976 Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:03 pm

The most undeserved point of the season by a bunch of cheating c--ts from hull. Any time a fly would buzz past them they were rolling around on the ground 5 minutes and the moronic pud referee kept stopping the match. Their first goal was a clear foul as Diame pulled Flamini and slapped him in the face. And how there was 3 minutes of extra time in the first half when the goalie went out injured and how there wasn't more extra time in the second half is beyond me. One freaking legitimate chance the whole match and those cheats steal a point. Buy some freaking defenders Arsene. Just ridiculous time wasting cheats and incompetent officiating what a surprise.

by westisbest Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:06 pm

We seriously need to score a goal and by doing so beat QPR on the 27th.

4 defeats in a row now 0 scored 11 conceded.

Very poor.

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:29 pm

OBERTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:53 pm

The usual excuses for Arsenal have started to come out already.

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:00 pm

What a result, first win of the season. We played absolutely dreadful, but world class players, like Gabriel Obertan, step up & deliver when it's needed. Buzzing.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:26 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The usual excuses for Arsenal have started to come out already.

Wenger does well with arsenal - most of their players are rubbish.

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:31 pm

Yeah that's what it is...... Rolling Eyes

by Duty281 Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:43 pm

How much added time did you want, Socal?

Six and a half minutes were added on in the second half. And the keeper's injury delayed the game for just two minutes in the first half. Added to other injuries, that seems perfectly fair to me.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:10 pm

Socal will look for any old excuse before he admits that Arsenal just aren't that good, with the worlds best midfielder they should be romping the league.

by Mackem Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:23 pm

8-0.......could of been 13. What can I say....

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:38 pm

I cant wait to see that game.. What the heck is going on at Southampton?- Did they also trade lallana for some magic beans.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:45 pm

What is going on at Southampton?

They signed players who were better than the ones they sold perhaps...

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:56 pm

Its not just easy to do that olly. In fact its very hard to .

by The Special Juan Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Glad I didn't put that tenner on them to get relegated then!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Well they seem to have done this time mysti!

And made quite the tidy profit from it too I might add

by Fernando Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:03 pm

MOTD running order....Sou v Sun / Man c v Spurs / CP v Chelsea/ Arse v Hull / Bur v WH / EFC v Villa/ NUFC v Leicester

I was one of the few who wasn't worried by Southampton selling at all. If you look at what they've signed more often then not it's an improvement or atleast seems to be so far see what happens over the winter.

Pelle from Lambert
Long from Osvaldo
Sane from Ramirez
Gardos from Hooiveld
Forster from Boruc
Tadic From Lallana
Alderweireld from Lovren
Bertrand from Shaw

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:11 pm

Exactly. People in this country cream their pants over abit of english talent, that in reality, isn't much kop in relation to world wide standards.

Pelle from Lambert - massive upgrade from the beet-root packer. Pelle has banged goals in for fun in Holland, now doing it here.
Long from Osvaldo - Osvaldo was AWOL for 99% of the time, Long isn't great but at least gives you 100% effort.
Sane from Ramirez - Big upgrade, Sane looks a talent & Gaston was injured for 100% of the time.
Gardos from Hooiveld - Hooiveld was bang awful
Forster from Boruc - Huge upgrade
Tadic From Lallana - Probably the player I've been impressed by most. Lallana who? More creative, better eye for goal, £20m cheaper, say no more.
Alderweireld from Lovren - Lovren is being exposed at Liverpool, pretty average. Alderweireld has done it in Spain, experienced & is a talent
Bertrand from Shaw - Probably Shaw has more potential but Bertrand is still relatively decent.

Still have Rodriguez to return too.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:14 pm

Pretty much spot on John, glad you said and not me or i'd have been accused of bias but Saints have done very well out of the transfer window and should have enough money left to improve further next summer.

by Fernando Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:17 pm

I knew i forgot someone. They sold Chambers for 16m too Laugh

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:24 pm

Man u can't even do well in the transfer window. For Southampton to do it is almost beyond belief. But good on them. And all the people slating there English(or homegrown) talent. That's not fair.

There youth set up created. Walcott, bale, shaw, chambers, ox, kylne,.

They deserve everything they get. And I would love to see them top 4. Although they will pro ally do exactly what they did last season. Please all remember that they started of this way last season then tailed of.

But 8-0.. Jeas. That's something else.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:25 pm

Hindsight 20:20, many of those players could easily not have settled.

On arsenal - wenger is managing a load of cack - now it is his fault as he signed them all but still.

All of his defensive players are rubbish, not below average - rubbish, none of them would look out of place in mid table sides.

His forwards are thin in number and average.

He has one type of player, little creative midfielder who does nothing defensively and he has half a dozen good versions of them.

I'd love to know what was going through his mind when he was constructing this squad.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:26 pm

Oh mysti - clyne is a palace product....

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:33 pm

Yep off course. We also do our bit and can improve on next to nothing. Everton, palace and southampton are all proof of what can be done.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:34 pm

"A load of cack" - the world of Ent is a crazy place. Who would want to have to manage Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey, Welbeck, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox, Cazorla, Koscielny, Gibbs. Nightmare every night, training a scary place

by The Special Juan Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:37 pm

Vergini's quite easily the worst PL CB I've ever seen that gets regular game time (excluding Savic).

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:37 pm

United have done there bit bringing through young english players, they might not be at the club or be of the highest draw but the league system is full of our products.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:37 pm

Seeing sunderlands "midfield" is anyone surprised they got tanked?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:39 pm

Mannone appalling

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:39 pm

Also mannone is absolutely brutal.

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:40 pm

Ent wrote:Seeing sunderlands "midfield" is anyone surprised they got tanked?

obviously losing the ginger pirlo is having shocking consequences

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:40 pm

To think of the money we could have made if the Premier League money era had gone as mental back when we had Fatty, Cole, Ferdinand, Carrick, Johnson and Defoe.

We've still got a backbone of youth products in our team, and the leagues are similarly full of our young lads who generally go on to make it in the professional game quite comfortably.

by Fernando Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:41 pm

And i thought it couldn't get worse for Mannone.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:41 pm

Pantilimon got to be starting the next match

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:42 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:United have done there bit bringing through young english players, they might not be at the club or be of the highest draw but the league system is full of our products.

Yes, however we've really slowed down.

Academy system changed and screwed us.

No top sides bring through loads of youth players anymore, too much pressure on results. Look at city pre and post billionaire owner to see a great exampl of that.

by The Special Juan Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:43 pm

Colbackenbauer.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:43 pm

John wrote:
Ent wrote:Seeing sunderlands "midfield" is anyone surprised they got tanked?

obviously losing the ginger pirlo is having shocking consequences

You joke but southampton had one pl midfielder out of 5 starting today.

And that was cattermole, so 0.5/5.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:43 pm

And to think, Poyet was favourite for the West Ham job at one point cos of the attractive football he'd bring. #eightnil #fourth

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:44 pm

John wrote:Exactly. People in this country cream their pants over abit of english talent, that in reality, isn't much kop in relation to world wide standards.

Pelle from Lambert - massive upgrade from the beet-root packer. Pelle has banged goals in for fun in Holland, now doing it here.
Long from Osvaldo - Osvaldo was AWOL for 99% of the time, Long isn't great but at least gives you 100% effort.
Sane from Ramirez - Big upgrade, Sane looks a talent & Gaston was injured for 100% of the time.
Gardos from Hooiveld - Hooiveld was bang awful
Forster from Boruc - Huge upgrade
Tadic From Lallana - Probably the player I've been impressed by most. Lallana who? More creative, better eye for goal, £20m cheaper, say no more.
Alderweireld from Lovren - Lovren is being exposed at Liverpool, pretty average. Alderweireld has done it in Spain, experienced & is a talent
Bertrand from Shaw - Probably Shaw has more potential but Bertrand is still relatively decent.

Still have Rodriguez to return too.

One of those upgrades is English(keeper) another was sold for 4 m and old. The others are non home grown for non home grown bar lallana. Your post doesn't really reflect your opening statement.

by Guest Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:47 pm

Had that happened under Di Canio I'd have fancied him to slap a few players on the way off the pitch.

That was just embarrassing for Sunderland.

by mystiroakey Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:51 pm

Totenham were impressive today IMO. I know they got spanked in the result. But still a lot of pluses.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:53 pm

This Mason lad has been good when i've watched him.

Aguero is just the best striker in the league by a distance when hes fit and on it.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:54 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:This Mason lad has been good when i've watched him.

Aguero is just the best striker in the league by a distance when hes fit and on it.

He'd be scoring Messi/Ronaldo levels of goals without the injuries.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:54 pm

Great dive from super frank.

by Ent Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:55 pm

Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:This Mason lad has been good when i've watched him.

Aguero is just the best striker in the league by a distance when hes fit and on it.

He'd be scoring Messi/Ronaldo levels of goals without the injuries.

40-50 a season?

Behave.

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