This is why we love Wayne Barnes.

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Review of Wayne Barnes v Ireland 2015:

https://youtu.be/IEuXfewLcuY

Ireland lose again with Barnes as ref. Its getting ridiculous now. 3 wins in the last 13 games v Barnes. Really hope we don't get him for any WC games.

Joe Schmidt also has issues with Barnes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/joe-schmidt-has-issues-with-wayne-barnes-over-scrum-calls-1.2145742

Graham Henry also suspects something isnt quite right about Barnes' lopsided officiating too

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/07/31/graham-henrys-final-word-on-suspected-match-fixing-in-rwc-2007/

quinsforever wrote:fly, you used to have such a light touch. recently however you cant seem to see anything but the worst in everyone's posts.

maybe you still havent recovered from the heineken cup rearrangements?

Oh I'm nice, quins.

But I do gun down lone bountyhunters looking to make quick money on my hide.

The Saint wrote:Fly...sometimes I think you're trying to bore posters to death. Gotta be honest, I tend to switch off when I get half way through your posts , quit waffling.

Well at least you get half way through, saint. If I were in your mood I just wouldn't even begin reading???

Masochist?

SecretFly wrote:And you're a guy who got a shock that someone wouldn't take a step back but rather hunt you down.  The intended Prey became the Hunter and it makes you uncomfortable because you like your mouth to shine in the old slimy, sneering put-downs.

I eat people like you for breakfast, Gwlad.  So if you want a quite life in future, keep your smart tongue behind your teeth, because I'm better at the show you tried to play.  

You've been tapping around for a good few days looking for bites. You got it.

Are we all done here?

Yeah, we're done.

Dude, I am really scared by your keyboard warriorness. If you eat me for breakfast why did you just have a big tantrum? You are truly a great mighty warrior of unknown proportions on the inter web.

You take yourself sooooo seriously and then have a big wobble when you get called out for what you are. Get help and get over yourself, asumming you can fit your head in the door of the psych's office.

Have the mods gone on strike? Come on chaps - play nice.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Heaf wrote:

Gwlad wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Nigel Owens

You mean Nigel Le Owens, bon viveur et raconteur.

Steve Walsh isn't it? - that's England done then.

There you go.  I heard both names mentioned too.  If Nige was dropped - I'd wonder why?  Considered bias danger when considering the day that's in it?

Steve Walsh business dealings which did for him last weekend also means he can t make this weekend. Owens comes in.

Where did you hear that 7?  The only site I can find that mentions the ref still has Walsh down for this.  I hope you're right though even if Nige did let the French SH feed the ball straight to the No.8 (it literally didn't touch any other player) in the scrum before they scored their late try to win last year.

Heaf wrote:Have the mods gone on strike?  Come on chaps - play nice.

If the whole of the Welsh media were not sued after the last world cup when Rolland carded Warburton, they never will be.

OK thanks - not sure how that relates to my post though?

The way I see it Heaf, the Englishman Edwards got his team well primed to take down Ireland and give this home team a bit of a boost for the world cup as they are now more than likely going to win the 6Ns with Ireland 2nd and Wales still 3rd!

Interesting also after the weekend Edwards says he is looking for a new job after the world cup. No doubt he will either screw the WRU or the RFU will welcome him with open arms. Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

Heaf wrote:Have the mods gone on strike?  Come on chaps - play nice.

Well the post of the zero tolerance stance during the tournament seems to have gone. Guess they don't care so much about things. Have you complained about things, or they aren't going to react to things to be fair.

Sin é wrote: Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

Would you not take him, Sin?

dont complain. ruins the spectacle. it's like an ugly pitbull trying to tear chunks out of a poodle-turned-hound-of-the-baskervilles

i'll let you figure out who's who

SecretFly wrote:

Sin é wrote: Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

Would you not take him, Sin?

Nope. Would not touch him. He is a big loud mouth (though I felt a bit sorry for him when Gatland dumped him for Farrell for the Lions).

Sin é wrote:The way I see it Heaf, the Englishman Edwards got his team well primed to take down Ireland and give this home team a bit of a boost for the world cup as they are now more than likely going to win the 6Ns with Ireland 2nd and Wales still 3rd!

Interesting also after the weekend Edwards says he is looking for a new job after the world cup. No doubt he will either screw the WRU or the RFU will welcome him with open arms. Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

sin you need to be a bit more subtle. you're never going to get a nibble with rubbish like this

take a leaf out of guns book. one cheeky post with even cheekier video and look what ensues...

anyway, ireland need an attacking coach not a defensive coach.

they also have no need of a breakdown infringement coach as i would say they are world class in this department. inventive, stylish, ballsy, cheeky, and back it up with chat to the referee. bravo.

quinsforever wrote:

Sin é wrote:The way I see it Heaf, the Englishman Edwards got his team well primed to take down Ireland and give this home team a bit of a boost for the world cup as they are now more than likely going to win the 6Ns with Ireland 2nd and Wales still 3rd!

Interesting also after the weekend Edwards says he is looking for a new job after the world cup. No doubt he will either screw the WRU or the RFU will welcome him with open arms. Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

sin you need to be a bit more subtle. you're never going to get a nibble with rubbish like this

take a leaf out of guns book. one cheeky post with even cheekier video and look what ensues...

Look, the Welsh still haven't got it that they were doing England a big favour by beating Ireland. Subtle doesn't work for them.

Risca Rev wrote:

Heaf wrote:Have the mods gone on strike?  Come on chaps - play nice.

Well the post of the zero tolerance stance during the tournament seems to have gone. Guess they don't care so much about things. Have you complained about things, or they aren't going to react to things to be fair.

I haven't complained no - it was just an observation really that things seemed to be getting a bit over heated ....

Sin é wrote:

Heaf wrote:Have the mods gone on strike?  Come on chaps - play nice.

If the whole of the Welsh media were not sued after the last world cup when Rolland carded Warburton, they never will be.

Would that be the same Cardiff based "Welsh media" that don't like to mention the name "Cardiff" when referring to Cardiff Blues? Then there's the wibblers who call us gleishun for some reason.

quinsforever wrote:anyway, ireland need an attacking coach not a defensive coach.

they also have no need of a breakdown infringement coach as i would say they are world class in this department. inventive, stylish, ballsy, cheeky, and back it up with chat to the referee. bravo.

going on the game against us, quins, I think if we grouped together we might get two attack coaches at a good price???

Sin é wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Sin é wrote:The way I see it Heaf, the Englishman Edwards got his team well primed to take down Ireland and give this home team a bit of a boost for the world cup as they are now more than likely going to win the 6Ns with Ireland 2nd and Wales still 3rd!

Interesting also after the weekend Edwards says he is looking for a new job after the world cup. No doubt he will either screw the WRU or the RFU will welcome him with open arms. Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

sin you need to be a bit more subtle. you're never going to get a nibble with rubbish like this

take a leaf out of guns book. one cheeky post with even cheekier video and look what ensues...

Look, the Welsh still haven't got it that they were doing England a big favour by beating Ireland. Subtle doesn't work for them.

Schmidtball failed. Keith Wood was wrong. Gatlandball still reigns supreme. GET OVER IT.

Sin é wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Sin é wrote: Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

Would you not take him, Sin?

Nope. Would not touch him. He is a big loud mouth (though I felt a bit sorry for him when Gatland dumped him for Farrell for the Lions).

A big loud mouth is I think something that Ireland needs.  I think we might have too many pen-pushing softies now.  I really do.  

I think the balance isn't quite right in personality types since we lost Plumtree, who I'd suspect had more bark than any of the current crew.  Joe needs a foil for his business suit approach.  He needs a wall slammer and a glass door headbutter!  I'm joking but I'm not.  I'm in Baskerville Poodle form now!  I'm serious.

The Saint wrote:

Sin é wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Sin é wrote:The way I see it Heaf, the Englishman Edwards got his team well primed to take down Ireland and give this home team a bit of a boost for the world cup as they are now more than likely going to win the 6Ns with Ireland 2nd and Wales still 3rd!

Interesting also after the weekend Edwards says he is looking for a new job after the world cup. No doubt he will either screw the WRU or the RFU will welcome him with open arms. Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

sin you need to be a bit more subtle. you're never going to get a nibble with rubbish like this

take a leaf out of guns book. one cheeky post with even cheekier video and look what ensues...

Look, the Welsh still haven't got it that they were doing England a big favour by beating Ireland. Subtle doesn't work for them.

Schmidtball failed. Keith Wood was wrong. Gatlandball still reigns supreme. GET OVER IT.

I stopped reading after Schmidtba......................................



This boredom threshold is catching

Gats Does Reign Surpreme.. Long Live Gats.

Sir Gats to you, if you don't mind

SecretFly wrote:

Sin é wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Sin é wrote: Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

Would you not take him, Sin?

Nope. Would not touch him. He is a big loud mouth (though I felt a bit sorry for him when Gatland dumped him for Farrell for the Lions).

A big loud mouth is I think something that Ireland needs.  I think we might have too many pen-pushing softies now.  I really do.  

I think the balance isn't quite right in personality types since we lost Plumtree, who I'd suspect had more bark than any of the current crew.  Joe needs a foil for his business suit approach.  He needs a wall slammer and a glass door headbutter!  I'm joking but I'm not.  I'm in Baskerville Poodle form now!  I'm serious.

I don't think Edwards would be suitable for Ireland. Wasn't he suspended by the WRU for having a fight with the Irish Sport Psychologist over singing an Irish song. He wouldn't last five minutes in Ireland if he got offended by Irish people singing.

Risca Rev wrote:Sir Gats to you, if you don't mind

An Irishman saying S...................I................r. That'll be the day

Sin é wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Sin é wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Sin é wrote: Hopefully he doesn't want the Ireland defence job, now that Les Kiss will be setting up his stall in Ulster after the world cup.

Would you not take him, Sin?

Nope. Would not touch him. He is a big loud mouth (though I felt a bit sorry for him when Gatland dumped him for Farrell for the Lions).

A big loud mouth is I think something that Ireland needs.  I think we might have too many pen-pushing softies now.  I really do.  

I think the balance isn't quite right in personality types since we lost Plumtree, who I'd suspect had more bark than any of the current crew.  Joe needs a foil for his business suit approach.  He needs a wall slammer and a glass door headbutter!  I'm joking but I'm not.  I'm in Baskerville Poodle form now!  I'm serious.

I don't think Edwards would be suitable for Ireland. Wasn't he suspended by the WRU for having a fight with the Irish Sport Psychologist over singing an Irish song. He wouldn't last five minutes in Ireland if he got offended by Irish people singing.

You heard the story wrong, I think, Sin.  It was a Welsh bus.  The singing was by the Welsh team and staff (whether Edwards was singing or not is not known).  But it is that Irish Psychologist that took offence to the Irish song/songs and went to Edwards to complain.  Then the hassles started.  Edwards said the Psychologist misunderstood the mood and over-reacted (Welsh boys singing Irish songs after a Welsh win?? - I doubt it was an over-reaction when I can imagine how the lyrics changed)  But anyway, that's it.  The Psychologist was the one offended and Edwards said they were best mates within the team structure normally.

Why was Edwards suspended then if he did nothing wrong?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/revealed-shaun-edwards-suspended-over-1847334

Risca Rev wrote:Sir Gats to you, if you don't mind

No it's either Sir Warren David Gatland, or The Great Gats. Do you know what else is great? Gatlandball , I remember when it won us our first Lions tour in years.

Sin é wrote:Why was Edwards suspended then if he did nothing wrong?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/revealed-shaun-edwards-suspended-over-1847334

He must have 'reacted' to the protests coming from the Irish guy. But I've only recently read an account of it because someone else brought up an allusion to it a few days ago.

The Saint wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:Sir Gats to you, if you don't mind

No it's either Sir Warren David Gatland, or The Great Gats. Do you know what else is great? Gatlandball , I remember when it won us our first Lions tour in years.

And there I was thinking it was Wales (with the assistance of a few friends) finally beating Australia - great prep for the world cup

The Saint wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:Sir Gats to you, if you don't mind

No it's either Sir Warren David Gatland, or The Great Gats. Do you know what else is great? Gatlandball , I remember when it won us our first Lions tour in years.

The Great Gats it is.

Christ - this humble pie stuff is demeaning. Oh do start winning again Lord Schmidt!

Sin e, true. So what prep are Ireland doing for the world cup? Wrapping Sexton in cotton wool?

Fly, I know. What about Keith Wood though? Head shaped like a potato...and must have a potato for a brain given the rubbish he continually comes out with. The guys just needs to accept that the great Gats has beaten him....again .

I guess poor Keith is in a He who Laughs Last Lasts La.... Laugh.....He.....................

I guess he thinks it's one apiece now and more to come?

The Saint wrote:Sin e, true. So what prep are Ireland doing for the world cup? Wrapping Sexton in cotton wool?

No Great Gats has now invoked his Next Lions Coach Rights and dictated that Sexton must go into hibernation for the more important Lions tour to New Zealand. He wants him fit, not grumpy and in tip top condition so that he can retire him before the first Test.

It's more like 3-1 to Great Gats.

Woody got Gats the sack ... Gats won't be able to get Woody the sack.

The Saint wrote:Sin e, true. So what prep are Ireland doing for the world cup? Wrapping Sexton in cotton wool?

To prevent him from bouncing?
JD2 made him bounce. More like consecutive thuds actually.

The Saint wrote:It's more like 3-1 to Great Gats.

Not against Schmidt it ain't. The clock has been reset.

Cardiff Dave wrote:

The Saint wrote:Sin e, true. So what prep are Ireland doing for the world cup? Wrapping Sexton in cotton wool?

To prevent him from bouncing?
JD2 made him bounce. More like consecutive thuds actually.

But sure it was the old Master JD2 replaced, not Sexton.  That didn't go too well on the rematch, the next time they shared a field (JD2 BOD).  But sure, Gats didn't think BOD would even be around the following year in an Ireland shirt to meet his Lions

SecretFly wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

The Saint wrote:Sin e, true. So what prep are Ireland doing for the world cup? Wrapping Sexton in cotton wool?

To prevent him from bouncing?
JD2 made him bounce. More like consecutive thuds actually.

But sure it was the old Master JD2 replaced, not Sexton.  That didn't go too well on the rematch, the next time they shared a field (JD2 BOD).  But sure, Gats didn't think BOD would even be around the following year in an Ireland shirt to meet his Lions

Quite a lot wrong with that. I'll assume you're fishing. You can start by looking at the lineups last year, particularly Welsh centres if you're not.

Risca Rev wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

The Saint wrote:Sin e, true. So what prep are Ireland doing for the world cup? Wrapping Sexton in cotton wool?

To prevent him from bouncing?
JD2 made him bounce. More like consecutive thuds actually.

But sure it was the old Master JD2 replaced, not Sexton.  That didn't go too well on the rematch, the next time they shared a field (JD2 BOD).  But sure, Gats didn't think BOD would even be around the following year in an Ireland shirt to meet his Lions

Quite a lot wrong with that. I'll assume you're fishing. You can start by looking at the lineups last year, particularly Welsh centres if you're not.

Yea, Gatland sent hard man Scott Williams to try and take BOD out. That worked well for him.

F*ck me, this site's gone to the dogs. What a rapid decline!

Quite interesting the whole Welsh-Irish rivalry!

Personally I thought Barnes did a solid job. He didn't make any notable howlers and he reffed a very absorbing game for the neutral.

Ireland cannot blame Barnes for their inability to spot an overlap and take it.

With a bit more accuracy in the right areas of the field Ireland could have won the match.

Oh no it's not Griff.  It's just 'banter'.  Banter always comes with a cut-throat razor - everyone pretends that it doesn't, and shouldn't.  But it always does.  It's just that the Six Nations makes the metal glint, so people see it more clearly.

Griff wrote:F*ck me, this site's gone to the dogs.  What a rapid decline!

To be fair, you can't have come on this thread and anticipated there to be worthwhile discussion. It has been apparent from the final whistle on Sat, that some are only interested in Wayne Barnes bashing instead of looking at the real issue of how their team were initially caught like rabbits in headlights (momentum lost with the Samson Lee injury break) and how they were so blunt despite countless phases and glaringly obvious overlaps. Even Jiffy tried telling them it was on etc.

Risca Rev wrote: Even Jiffy tried telling them it was on etc.

Oh lord I had shut that out. The repeated squeaks of "It's On"

LondonTiger wrote:

Risca Rev wrote: Even Jiffy tried telling them it was on etc.

Oh lord I had shut that out. The repeated squeaks of "It's On"

Nah, the only squeaking was from Sean O'Brien.

Heaf wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Heaf wrote:

Gwlad wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Nigel Owens

You mean Nigel Le Owens, bon viveur et raconteur.

Steve Walsh isn't it? - that's England done then.

There you go.  I heard both names mentioned too.  If Nige was dropped - I'd wonder why?  Considered bias danger when considering the day that's in it?

Steve Walsh business dealings which did for him last weekend also means he can t make this weekend. Owens comes in.

Where did you hear that 7?  The only site I can find that mentions the ref still has Walsh down for this.  I hope you're right though even if Nige did let the French SH feed the ball straight to the No.8 (it literally didn't touch any other player) in the scrum before they scored their late try to win last year.

Saw a page on the IRB site on update to 6Ns officials. There was a link on the BBC team of the week page but can't get on at mo.

Risca Rev wrote:

Griff wrote:F*ck me, this site's gone to the dogs.  What a rapid decline!

To be fair, you can't have come on this thread and anticipated there to be worthwhile discussion. It has been apparent from the final whistle on Sat, that some are only interested in Wayne Barnes bashing instead of looking at the real issue of how their team were initially caught like rabbits in headlights (momentum lost with the Samson Lee injury break) and how they were so blunt despite countless phases and glaringly obvious overlaps. Even Jiffy tried telling them it was on etc.

Oh God. No fun in that, Rev!?  Where's the 'banter' fun in regurgitating facts and figures and greyscale analysis, put down on pie charts and projected onto a wall in a powerpoint presentation?

That's 'banter'?  Dear God, this place IS dying.  Griff might be right .

Risca Rev wrote:

Griff wrote:F*ck me, this site's gone to the dogs.  What a rapid decline!

To be fair, you can't have come on this thread and anticipated there to be worthwhile discussion. It has been apparent from the final whistle on Sat, that some are only interested in Wayne Barnes bashing instead of looking at the real issue of how their team were initially caught like rabbits in headlights (momentum lost with the Samson Lee injury break) and how they were so blunt despite countless phases and glaringly obvious overlaps. Even Jiffy tried telling them it was on etc.

In fairness, most of us know that Barnes is a terrible ref. How Rolland could have been run out of the game for making the correct call and Barnes get away with being totally incompetent is mind boggling.

The Irish management have requested an explaination of Barnes' refereeing from Joel Jutge of World Rugby and in particular how he awarded the final scrum penalty for Wales which they were unable to figure out (according to Simon Easterby, Ireland's forwards coach).

They're bloody stupid then.