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Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
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SCOTLAND V SOUTH AFRICA
3 October 2015
KO: 16:45 BST
St. James' Park, Newcastle
Live on [tbc]
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Touch judges: Chris Pollock (New Zealand) & Leighton Hodges (Wales)
Television match official: George Ayoub (Australia)
A. Head to Head
25 Played 25
5 Won 20
0 Drawn 0
20 Lost 5
270 Points 652
B. Recent Form
28 June 2014
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth
55 – 6 to South Africa
17 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 28 to South Africa
15 June 2013
Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit
30 – 17 to South Africa
17 November 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 21 to South Africa
20 November 2010
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
21 – 17 to Scotland
15 November 2008
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 14 to South Africa
C. Teams
SCOTLAND
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 35 caps; 9 tries, 2 pens, 51 points
14 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 8 tries, 40 points
13 Richie Vernon (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 31 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 22 caps; 10 tries, 50 points
10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps; 2 tries, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 52 points
09 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester) – 43 caps; 3 tries, 51 cons, 92 pens, 393 points
01 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
02 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
03 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 5 caps; 1 try, 5 points
04 Richie Gray (Castres) – 48 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
05 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 16 caps; 1 try, 5 points
06 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
07 Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 13 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
08 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby) – 29 caps
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 91 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 49 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
18 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 9 caps; 1 try, 5 points
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 14 caps
20 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby) – 7 caps
22 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
23 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) – 98 caps; 14 tries, 70 points
SOUTH AFRICA
01. Tendai Mtawarira
02. Bismarck Du Plessis
03. Jannie Du Plessis
04. Eben Etzebeth
05. Lodewyk De Jager
06. Francois Louw
07. Schalk Burger
08. Duane Vermeulen
09. Fourie Du Preez (captain)
10. Handre Pollard
11. Bryan Habana
12. Damian De Allende
13. Jesse Kriel
14. JP Pietersen
15. Willie Le Roux
16. Adriaan Strauss
17. Trevor Nyakane
18. Frans Malherbe
19. Pieter-Steph Du Toit
20. Willem Alberts
21. Ruan Pienaar
22. Pat Lambie
23. Jan Serfontein
SCOTLAND V SOUTH AFRICA
3 October 2015
KO: 16:45 BST
St. James' Park, Newcastle
Live on [tbc]
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Touch judges: Chris Pollock (New Zealand) & Leighton Hodges (Wales)
Television match official: George Ayoub (Australia)
A. Head to Head
25 Played 25
5 Won 20
0 Drawn 0
20 Lost 5
270 Points 652
B. Recent Form
28 June 2014
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth
55 – 6 to South Africa
17 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 28 to South Africa
15 June 2013
Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit
30 – 17 to South Africa
17 November 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 21 to South Africa
20 November 2010
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
21 – 17 to Scotland
15 November 2008
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 14 to South Africa
C. Teams
SCOTLAND
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 35 caps; 9 tries, 2 pens, 51 points
14 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 8 tries, 40 points
13 Richie Vernon (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 31 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 22 caps; 10 tries, 50 points
10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps; 2 tries, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 52 points
09 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester) – 43 caps; 3 tries, 51 cons, 92 pens, 393 points
01 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
02 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
03 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 5 caps; 1 try, 5 points
04 Richie Gray (Castres) – 48 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
05 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 16 caps; 1 try, 5 points
06 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
07 Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 13 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
08 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby) – 29 caps
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 91 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 49 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
18 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 9 caps; 1 try, 5 points
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 14 caps
20 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby) – 7 caps
22 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
23 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) – 98 caps; 14 tries, 70 points
SOUTH AFRICA
01. Tendai Mtawarira
02. Bismarck Du Plessis
03. Jannie Du Plessis
04. Eben Etzebeth
05. Lodewyk De Jager
06. Francois Louw
07. Schalk Burger
08. Duane Vermeulen
09. Fourie Du Preez (captain)
10. Handre Pollard
11. Bryan Habana
12. Damian De Allende
13. Jesse Kriel
14. JP Pietersen
15. Willie Le Roux
16. Adriaan Strauss
17. Trevor Nyakane
18. Frans Malherbe
19. Pieter-Steph Du Toit
20. Willem Alberts
21. Ruan Pienaar
22. Pat Lambie
23. Jan Serfontein
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
So far in Scotland's two games, only the second half has been impressive from them. They cant afford to let the Saffa's off to a flyer.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
I just cannot see SA losing this game to be honest.
But then again i could not see therm (SA) losing to Japan.
But on this game i just think that SA have too strong a team to lose to Scotland.
But then again i could not see therm (SA) losing to Japan.
But on this game i just think that SA have too strong a team to lose to Scotland.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
After tonight's games there could well be two former RWC winners starting to do their bag packing.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
The key will be to stay close if we can because if South Africa are relatively weak anywhere, it's late in the match.
South Africa have lost five of their last seven games. In three of those defeats they tanked very badly late in the game. Famously, they conceded at the death against Japan, they coughed up 10 points in the last seven minutes against New Zealand and 14 points in the last seven minutes against Australia.
We have shown thus far that our fitness is good and we are strong late in the game. If we're going to win this, that will be how we do it. Need Laidlaw to kick anything that moves and have Weir kick smartly. No point in giving SA lineouts. They have won 27 out of 27 in the tournament so far.
South Africa have lost five of their last seven games. In three of those defeats they tanked very badly late in the game. Famously, they conceded at the death against Japan, they coughed up 10 points in the last seven minutes against New Zealand and 14 points in the last seven minutes against Australia.
We have shown thus far that our fitness is good and we are strong late in the game. If we're going to win this, that will be how we do it. Need Laidlaw to kick anything that moves and have Weir kick smartly. No point in giving SA lineouts. They have won 27 out of 27 in the tournament so far.
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Sing up Bru - can't hear you!
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
maestegmafia wrote:After tonight's games there could well be two former RWC winners starting to do their bag packing.
Maybe Maybe not.
But at least the two teams have "WON" A RUGBY WORLD CUP. OK.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Cowan has attempted more turnovers in 4 minutes than any of our players did in the last two games!
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C'mon Scotland...
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
That was a terrible kick to touch - not even in the 22!
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There are three teams playing today that have won a RWC...majesticimperialman wrote:maestegmafia wrote:After tonight's games there could well be two former RWC winners starting to do their bag packing.
Maybe Maybe not.
But at least the two teams have "WON" A RUGBY WORLD CUP. OK.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
RDW_Scotland wrote:That was a terrible kick to touch - not even in the 22!
Lucky for the scrum.
Tough call by Nigel on that though.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Not able to toe out lifters
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Dodgy set piece and too many turnovers - not the best of starts!
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Not according to the TMO
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
I am not sure I would have awarded that try. The player coming in after the first attempt was in front so surely an offside?
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Extremely bizarre call there!
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
SA making ground far too easily
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Watching this on Dutch TV with Dutch commentary, its all Tim Visser. His feeble attempt has been deemed excellent cover defence
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Men against boys just now!
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Not sure how they've awarded that try, looked like clear offside to me.
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
South Africa getting the bounce of the ball. Visser forgetting to defend.
We need to dig deep here. Don't care what anyone says. We've got the 2nd XV out there. I don't like that fact but it could work out in the long run. But it doesn't sit well
We need to dig deep here. Don't care what anyone says. We've got the 2nd XV out there. I don't like that fact but it could work out in the long run. But it doesn't sit well
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Hopefully this is just us having another slow start...
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Come on boys we need you to get back into the game
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I think Scotland shoud have changed all their lineout calls at this rate!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:I think Scotland shoud have changed all their lineout calls at this rate!
Or picked their best players?
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
So who is Fran Schoise Low?
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Re: Scotland v South Africa, 3 October
Scotland getting pinged off the park
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We need to be within touching distance by half time or this is going to be a long afternoon.
We need to get out our half!
We need to get out our half!
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We need to stop kicking the ball straight down the boks throat as well
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Shifty wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:I think Scotland shoud have changed all their lineout calls at this rate!
Or picked their best players?
It does seem like an understrength Scotland team which I really don't like.
Fair enough playing a weak team against the 5th tier, but to play a weak team against the top seed just seems cynical to me, and shows a lack of ambition.
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I don't think Scotland are playing too badly, getting on the wrong end of some iffy calls but they are not out of this. SA actually look there for the beating...
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eirebilly wrote:I don't think Scotland are playing too badly, getting on the wrong end of some iffy calls but they are not out of this. SA actually look there for the beating...
Wish I had your confidence!
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South Africa are taking out our lifters an affy lot
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Oh we are Frak now
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Strauss has played very well so far, winning the collisions against some of the biggest men in the game. Scotland will want him to come back.
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Burger with a neck high tackle on Strauss, Strauss then goes off for a HIA - goes unpunished
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RDW_Scotland wrote:eirebilly wrote:I don't think Scotland are playing too badly, getting on the wrong end of some iffy calls but they are not out of this. SA actually look there for the beating...
Wish I had your confidence!
SA are bursting out there, really trying too hard. Scotland have not as yet exerted themselves. Stay in touch at 1/2 time and SA will tire.
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And another one on Denton!
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Huge tackle count for Scotland...
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Oooh yellow card!
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Scotland just need to simplify things a bit here - the likes of Vernon, Strauss and Denton are making good ground against the South Africans but the ball isn't quick enough, the support play needs to be better. They need to hold onto possession better as well.
If they can do that, then the game might open up for the likes of Hogg and Seymour.
If they can do that, then the game might open up for the likes of Hogg and Seymour.
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About time SA are punished for those nasty hits.
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Shoulder to head - definite yellow
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Commentator is an arse
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Hell, can you guys stop bitching?
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Weir is sooooooo Poopie
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How many times has weir just kicked the ball straight back to them! It's frustrating as hell
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