5000-1 - The 2016/17 Premier League thread

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Aug 2016, 12:47 am

First topic message reminder :

The other thread is coming to an end and I think it's nice to have a new memory to take us through this year.

And with the new season starting today, what better time to refresh things and start again. The preamble of pre-season is over: 2016/17 LETS BE AVIN YA

by Ent Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:22 pm

City will be delighted with this result, Away to stoke always a good win and after midweek exertions.

by Ent Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:23 pm

Direct football and another goal.

Score line flatters them but like I said very good win.

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:26 pm

Already looking like a big game for Leicester and Arsenal..

City and Utd look much improved. .

by **Hero** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:27 pm

Nacho is a quality forward, I'd have him over the likes of Sterling and Navas starting.

by Ent Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:29 pm

The Brazilian kid they've signed looks a player too, if you can judge by the standard of the olympics...

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:34 pm

I'd have anyone over Navas. Poster boy for overrating foreign players just because they're from Spain or Germany.

Sterlings had a very good start.

by Guest Sat 20 Aug 2016, 2:52 pm

Stoke, like Southampton, looking toothless

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 3:13 pm

Navas doesnt and hasnt suited City at any point, as well as a player who openly doesnt like being away from home. Needs to be allowed to go back

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 3:51 pm

Half-Time:

Burnley 2-0 Liverpool
West Brom 1-1 Everton

Everyone else 0-0

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:17 pm

Watford 1-0 Chelsea - Capoue

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:18 pm

Foster makes a world class save, but Barry scores from resulting corner. 1-2 to Everton

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:39 pm

1-1 Chelsea - Batshauyi gets his first for Chelsea

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:41 pm

1-0 Spurs - Wanyama

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:44 pm

2-1 to Chelsea - Costa

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:49 pm

0-2 Hull - Abel Hernandez (Maloney got the first)

by Ent Sat 20 Aug 2016, 4:56 pm

Hull, no owners, no manager, no players -6 points.

Football eh?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 5:09 pm

Whoever signs strikers at Burnley needs a bonus

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 5:14 pm

Not sure Andre Gray was a diamond in the rough but yes.

For Hull, its been a great start, still in deep trouble for my money if they don't reinforce. Once the early season boost wears off and their players are worn down by the lack of replacements, think reality will bite.

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 5:22 pm

Nothing like the 2nd weekend to kill some opening day hot takes.

Benteke has to save Pardews job you'd think.

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 5:24 pm

Speaking of Andre Gray, I suspect his twitter account is about to become protected in the next few hours

by Guest Sat 20 Aug 2016, 6:16 pm

Chinese looking to buy a stake in Liverpool football club

by Guest Sat 20 Aug 2016, 6:28 pm

Ent wrote:Hull, no owners, no manager, no players -6 points.

Football eh?

That has to be a more than a 5000 -1 punt for Hull to win / get in the top four this season.

Have been impressed with Guardiola & Man City as well as old man Ibrahimovic and Man Utd (they are benefiting from Mourinho's incisiveness - he just seems to know what is needed to get a team to the top). City & Utd look to be the leading contenders this season. Chelsea look to be back threatening with their new manager Conti - so maybe Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea will finish top three. Arsenal are the same old same old. Good but lacking cutting edge and consistency. Everton will probably be a lot better under Koeman. Spurs seem to be as good as last year, but other teams are better. Liverpool have defensive issues.

by **Hero** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 7:22 pm

Arsenal without question should be leaving with 0 points from that game, the ref saved them.

by **Crimey** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 8:47 pm

Embarrassing result. Whilst Moreno played poorly against Arsenal, this kind of game is exactly the kind he was needed in, no width meant no real chance of stretching Burnley. Conceding the early goal was the main problem, allowed Burnley to sit back completely. Defence wasn't really all that bad Burnley had three shots on goal all game, it was breaking down a parked bus that was the issue. It has been an issue for a while now.

Can't help but feel Klopp is making a lot of avoidable mistakes, playing players out of position, not securing full back cover - I hope he recognises them before the end of the window. HAVE to sign a new full back.

by Guest Sat 20 Aug 2016, 9:03 pm

I don't see Wijnaldum working at all, on the left of a central three. Especially with Milner at LB, that makes that side of the field just look very odd

by nathan Sat 20 Aug 2016, 9:47 pm

Hero wrote:Arsenal without question should be leaving with 0 points from that game, the ref saved them.

Very much so, should of been a second red and then a penalty. Wenger tried to insinuate that Musa took a dive.

Did you see his comments about that he wants to make sure that the 600 employers get paid instead of buying a striker. He makes it sound like Arsenal are on the brink of being bankrupt.

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 10:38 pm

Liverpools away kit is cack

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 10:41 pm

Coutinho back on track to retain his most overrated player in the PL award.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 10:45 pm

GSC wrote:Coutinho back on track to retain his most overrated player in the PL award.

Will score a wonder goal in a televised game in October and people will think he's great again

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 10:56 pm

Murphy (I think, TV is quiet) was right about Liverpool's playing out from the back. No variety, and without variety you're always likely to get exposed playing around.

Sterling definitely not a penalty, but kind of made up for the howler the ref missed earlier.

by GSC Sat 20 Aug 2016, 10:58 pm

Think at least partly its not helped that none of them (including Henderson) are actually that good at it.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:06 pm

GSC wrote:Think at least partly its not helped that none of them (including Henderson) are actually that good at it.

Yeah, I think that was half the point though. Barca and Bayern, youve got some of the best players in the world. Liverpool dont.

Chelsea with an inspired and motivated Costa will push for the title. And also shows an approach for Lukaku is unnecessary

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:09 pm

Great to see Costa given more benefit of the doubt by refs again. Nice guys need to be given credit to make the odd mistake

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:18 pm

Swansea really need an influx of talent - really not a very good squad outside of basically Sigurdsson

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:19 pm

Yup. They look relegation candidates.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:25 pm

Carroll has apparently picked up a significant injury. Obviously

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:38 pm

Why did palace sell Jedinak

by westisbest Sat 20 Aug 2016, 11:43 pm

Because he knows Palace will be swapping places with Villa at the end of the season.

When that happens Tekkers will return to his rightful home

by GSC Sun 21 Aug 2016, 12:13 am

Not PL but have to be pleased for Neymar

by Guest Sun 21 Aug 2016, 12:18 am

They sure love their football success, the Brazilians.

Pure emotion at the end. Tingling.

by GSC Sun 21 Aug 2016, 12:44 am

Ultimately it is kinda a pointless add on, but Brazil needed that.

Conversely, will anyone in Germany give a crap?

by Guest Sun 21 Aug 2016, 9:10 am

No, it's pretty much a glorified U-23 tournament. Brazil are languishing in the WC qualifying, so it might give them a kick up the backside to start delivering now. As for Neymar, he definitely needed this, seeing as he'd won nothing with Brazil, prior to last night.