The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the Tommy Bowe photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?

rugbydreamer wrote:

luckless_pedestrian wrote:The Magic Faraway Tree is brilliant. I love all those characters. Plus, how much did you want to go down the Slippery-slip?!

Ah the Slippery-slip! Love it!

Do you know they've had to change some of the names though?

I don't think Moon-Face is allowed to be called that anymore due to it being non pc. They've also had to change one of the childrens names to Franny.

I hate they they change things like that.

Best 606 conversation ever.
Seriously, I used to LOVE those books as a child. Makes me want to read them again!

I don't agree with all the changes they made - they did go to the extreme. To be fair though, Fanny is a name we rarely hear these days unless it's in the rude capacity.

Exactly, they're of their time. Once you start revising things like that, where do you stop?

I know they got rid of golliwogs from the Noddy stories, but they changed them to monkeys. Isn't that almost worse?

I know, but how difficult is it to explain to a child that it's a name that used to be popular?

It's just...I don't know whether it's from a writers perspective, it's just the fact that years after you've died people can go in and change your words and work...it just doesn't sit well with me. I personally just don't think that a lot of it's necessary (so I guess we agree! )

Bore da pawb - what an absolute sack o' sh!te this morning has been

Hate when the change old established characters in books just to be 'PC'. Meant to pop in last night, read back this morning and it looks like a I made a wise choice not to

Once the book reads well I don't mind. If its case that it detracts from the book - change it.

Dreamer - maybe society's gone too far for a child - and even their parents to see that word as the name that it once was, and they just see it for what it means now?

Penfro - you made a very wise choice last night my friend

I remember reading that one school changed the nursery rhyme to 'Baa baa rainbow sheep.' That's just ridiculous, it's not as if the song slags off the black sheep anyway so why change it? At least black sheep exist!

Sorry Penfro, that comment is dangerously independent. I mean, don't you realise that your opinions are mere reflections of the English Hegemony such that they deign to allow you to have. Don't think that as a Welshman you are capable of thoughts independent thereof.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I remember reading that one school changed the nursery rhyme to 'Baa baa rainbow sheep.' That's just ridiculous, it's not as if the song slags off the black sheep anyway so why change it? At least black sheep exist!

Can you imagine if they had to change the name of the brewery in Masham. Political correctness gone mad.

well according to wikipedia the only thing they've changed are the children's names.

They are now Joe (instead of Jo), Beth (not Bessie) and Frannie (not Fanny).

Okay Joe I can understand a bit, but what was wrong with Bessie!?

Cari - yeah, I guess so, I just hate books being tampered with I think.

Dreamer - now that IS odd. what's wrong with Jo and Bessie? How strange...!

I can see what you mean about works being tampered with...it's like when you listen to a song on the radio and they blank out a lyric because it's remotely rude like "ass" It just makes the singer sound like they have a stutter.

GLAS - I want to reply, but I'd better not. This isn't the place for it

Who authorised those changes? If it was Enid Blyton's descendents, they should have told them to go and whistle.

There's un-PC stuff in a lot of literature, only because people's views have changed over time. You have to appreciate the milieu in which a work of literature was written.

Milieu!

I had to google what that word meant Lucky, but I completely agree with you. Very much a +1

nottins wrote:

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I remember reading that one school changed the nursery rhyme to 'Baa baa rainbow sheep.' That's just ridiculous, it's not as if the song slags off the black sheep anyway so why change it? At least black sheep exist!

Can you imagine if they had to change the name of the brewery in Masham. Political correctness gone mad.

You can't say that any more, it should be "political correctness gone mentall ill"...

I don't think it was an attempt to make them "PC" so much with Enid Blyton books, I think it was somebody's efforts to modernise them, and thus make them appealing for kids today. I haven't read any modern kids books though, so I don't know...

ah but Cari that's even worse! They weren't exactly modern when I read them but I still loved them, they're just something I don't think need changing, they're perfectly brilliant just as they are


ooo just had worse that a big boss type of person is coming to the office soon, so best get off here. Speak later folks.

The fat controller's another they had to change!!

I like the name of Wing Commander Guy Gibson's dog

Changing Fanny's name was not a bad idea was it, millieu o'r no.

True Dreamer...see you later then...

Prop - what's he known as now?! They talk about Fat Cats on the news still...

Glas a du wrote:Changing Fanny's name was not a bad idea was it, millieu o'r no.

No, cause I giggle if I hear "fanny" and I'm an adult

In one of the stories, cousin Dick came to stay with Jo, Bessie and Fanny. I presume he's called Mark or something now.

Cousin Man Sausage maybe

They gave him a name cari but I think due to uproar over the stupidity he's been changed back! One problem working with young people is that they're so blydi unreliable, 2 hours wasted today already-guess it meant time in a coffee shop though!

Prop what is it you work at?

Prop - sitting in a coffee shop is not a waste! Mine's a grande cappuccino please

Anyone remember the name of Stand Ulstermans pub?

The Taphouse



http://www.thetaphousebelfast.com/

red_stag wrote:Anyone remember the name of Stand Ulstermans pub?

Taphouse ?

rugbydreamer wrote:

red_stag wrote:Dreamer when I read fantasy or adventure books I get the same. But I have some hangup about them. I never ever read them.

Read the Ghengis Khan series, Sword of Truth series, Dark Materials, Harry Potter, the Magician, Hobbit and LOTR etc and loved them all.

But I will rarely buy them or go for them.

That's so strange that if you love them you don't look for more in that genre. I don't buy books often (I have to ration myself!) but when I do it's usually always sci-fi/fantasy.

Otherwise I stick to re-reading some series. The Belgariad and The Mallorean by David Eddings are two of my favourites

I've re-read the Belgariad & Mallorean over the last couple of weeks - 10 books, not bad - I managed to get Kindle editions of both series, as my paper versions are in boxes 12,000 miles from here.

I sat next to a woman on the train this morning who was reading The Hidden City (from the Tamuli) series too - must look out for ebook versions of that set (my ex read the Elenium/Tamuli series before the Belgariad/Mallorean and we used to have the odd debate over which was better - we both preferred the one we'd read first). I do wish I'd never read the Rivan Codex though - learning how Eddings planned out the books took away some of the magic. And there's even a poster down on the Motorsport board with the username "Belgarion of Riva" - very cool. In an awfully geeky kind of way

And I loved reading Blyton growing up - I inherited a lot of children's books that Dad and my Aunt had had in the 50s/60s so got to read them in the original.

Stag: I help to get young people into employment by supporting them and developing social skills for Barnardos. Ah sat by the castle for lunch waiting for penfro!

Lush day for it Prop!

I'd say its very rewarding.

Stag: it is really rewarding but also highly frustrating at times!!

Cari: I know: quite nice to be able to eat lunch out of the office!!

prop_lyd wrote:Stag: I help to get young people into employment by supporting them and developing social skills for Barnardos. Ah sat by the castle for lunch waiting for penfro!

And yet, you couldn't help Hughie with his chat up lines in Cardiff, a lot done, more to do!

Mickado - I didn't think Hughie would need help in that department?

Kado: I was too pished to do that! Surely he should have taken a leaf out of mickyts dance book?

Afternoon all, wheres the blydi sun gone...?

Hope were all well? pls landlord!

Mickado wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:Stag: I help to get young people into employment by supporting them and developing social skills for Barnardos. Ah sat by the castle for lunch waiting for penfro!

And yet, you couldn't help Hughie with his chat up lines in Cardiff, a lot done, more to do!

Careful now, i had no voice remember.......

prop_lyd wrote:Kado: I was too pished to do that! Surely he should have taken a leaf out of mickyts dance book?

A step too far for mere mortals.

Oh no, to dance beside or even within eyeshot of Micky (the moves) T, one must go through rigorous training for many many years. If Hughie had tried to copy the MixMaster on the dance floor he could have contracted skin failure. I’ve seen it happen before, not pretty.

Hughie prefers Valley Girls - 2 in The Bush

I made a hotel out of little cheesy biscuits .

It's not exactly the Ritz.

hughie1986 wrote:I made a hotel out of little cheesy biscuits .

It's not exactly the Ritz.

I dedicate that to my father who was a roofer, so dad if ur up there.........

Micky T already stole that from Stewart Francis

Ryan Davies walks into a chippy.

"Chips please"

"65 or 95"

"well if you're going to count I'll have a fish"

"It won't be long"

"It better be wide then!"