The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the Tommy Bowe photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?



Previous pub: https://www.606v2.com/t11223p1000-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub#366751

True Munsty. Feic Notch your some nerd!!

red_stag wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:

Notch wrote:To be fair, 40% is generally a pass in most things. However, is too easy to get 90%+ in school when compared to University. I found the work I did in secondary school wasn't sufficiently challenging to prepare for University except in the case of some of Advanced English.

Is school there to prepare you for university?

Shouldn't be IMO.

I think school should give you the tools to go on and do whatever it is you want to do in your adult life, and for some students thats going to involve further study. Could involve getting a job out of school or an apprenticeship, or even something left field like starting your own business if you are particularly mature and well motivated, but some people are going to want to go to University.

I always hear that first year undergraduates lack basic skills in things like writing essays, critical thinking, independent study etc. These are obviously essential for a degree but they're important skills for a lot of jobs out there as well. There's a culture of spoon feeding which is detrimental to 'real' education (note; not targeted exam results).

Actually I don't think it was more difficult because I'd matured a bit, in a more relaxed environment, can study what I like and can work on my own terms. At school you're pretty much lumbered.

The result I was most unhappy with was English. My second guessing the exam and being just a tad arrogant cost me a grade. Did a fantastic mocks paper getting an A1. Only studied 4 of 8 poets. The other 4 came up and I had to skip poetry section. Ended up with a B.

However I didn't care all that much. There were other subjects that I got A's in that I didn't expect to.

Swings and roundabouts.

Yeah... but I never studied that hard to be honest. I was more annoyed with myself because I knew I could have done the clean sweep if I had actually worked more.

French actor Gerard Depardieu has been removed from a flight bound for Dublin.

The 62-year-old, star of Cyrano de Bergerac and Green Card, was on a flight from Paris when he urinated in front of fellow passengers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14572094

Now why does that not surprise me

I failed junior cert maths

Cymro - why doesn't it suprise you? Has he got a bad reputation for that sort of thing has he?

OK, it's a free bar all day - drinks on me. Eldest got into Bristol to study archaeology - chuffed tae bits!!

He does seem to enjoy flashing his bits around and not just on screen either.
He is the Oliver Reed type of character he thinks after the event.

Asbo, a million congratulations.

In 1968 I failed Use of English. A sort of unprepared semi-demi A-level akin to General Studies. Maybe they were right.

My English grade annoyed me the most as well Stag. I really wanted an A in that and I was all set for it if I didn't make any mistakes in any of the remaining exams, I did make a mistake though (curse you Emily Dickinson!) so ended up with a B. But that meant I went to Aberyswyth Uni instead of Cardiff though, so worked out all for the best for me


So almost my lunch time, going to walk up town to the farmers market again, can't wait (plus I'm just really hungry)

Mickado wrote:I failed junior cert maths

Science

Asbo that's brilliant, congratulations!

Notch wrote:I always hear that first year undergraduates lack basic skills in things like writing essays, critical thinking, independent study etc. These are obviously essential for a degree but they're important skills for a lot of jobs out there as well.

I've heard that undergraduates' standard of written English is often shockingly bad. The only conclusion I can come to is that it's possible to pass English (and other exams) despite having terrible English. That shouldn't be.

Well done to them Asbo

That's brilliant Asbo. Delighted for her and for you.

My neice, the one who just got her A Level results, is very good at English. Top of her class and her teachers had no doubt she would get an A in her AS last year. The exams went well. Results arrive and she has a C in English.

Closer examination showed that one essay paper had scored a D.
Her teachers were shocked to say the least and asked for a remark.

Same essay, different examiner comes back with an A!

How can there be that much variation in marking?

Portnoy, did you mention the playoffs in the exam??

English is a tough one to call. I remember I wrote an essay about rugby in my leaving cert exam actually. It was about the fickleness of popularity amongst peers and fans in teenage sport.

Rugby can fit in anywhere

Good news, Abso - I'll have a if you don't mind!

Notch wrote:

red_stag wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:

Notch wrote:To be fair, 40% is generally a pass in most things. However, is too easy to get 90%+ in school when compared to University. I found the work I did in secondary school wasn't sufficiently challenging to prepare for University except in the case of some of Advanced English.

Is school there to prepare you for university?

Shouldn't be IMO.

I think school should give you the tools to go on and do whatever it is you want to do in your adult life, and for some students thats going to involve further study. Could involve getting a job out of school or an apprenticeship, or even something left field like starting your own business if you are particularly mature and well motivated, but some people are going to want to go to University.

I always hear that first year undergraduates lack basic skills in things like writing essays, critical thinking, independent study etc. These are obviously essential for a degree but they're important skills for a lot of jobs out there as well. There's a culture of spoon feeding which is detrimental to 'real' education (note; not targeted exam results).

Rote learning is the biggest problem in my opinion.

Awesome Asbo!! Congrats!! If the drinks are on you i'll stop off in Exeter en-route down tomorrow

CARI - you kept that quiet That is brilliant. I know things aren't great at the moment, but look back on that as an inspiration to yourself as to what you can achieve

STAG - now, see, what do actually mean by not fail ? Did you always get A-C , or do you mean 'sneeking' by with a D or a an E

I'll stand up for the "Thickies' . Never failed a thing until I got to Grammar School (That's proper schooling for you youngsters, not this one size fits all Comprehensive bollix. Academic = Grammar. Vocational = Secondary Modern). Anyway, at GCSE O'Levels I failed French (Those who went to the 1st time would have seen evidence of this ). At ONC I failed my Statistics exam in my first year and had to re-sit the WHOLE year, not just the Stats module, although I would have "passed" these days as I had 42%. HNC was a breeze mind you

Well done to Miss Asbo!

Big relief for Mr Asbo!

Indiana Asbo Jnr!

Congrats and well done to her!

PenfroPete wrote:STAG - now, see, what do actually mean by not fail ? Did you always get A-C , or do you mean 'sneeking' by with a D or a an E

No I've actually always had A-C

ooh hark at Penfro! Grammar School boy!

Portnoy wrote:In 1968 I failed Use of English. A sort of unprepared semi-demi A-level akin to General Studies. Maybe they were right.

Ah That's why we have trouble working out what the hell you are on about sometimes

Its nearly lunchtime but I had a slice of carrotcake for elevneses and I have no appetite.

how big a slice of cake did you have Stag?!

Big congrats to the Tigsmister asbo, told you she would be grand.



Now time to start planning my trips to bristol

Cari wrote:ooh hark at Penfro! Grammar School boy!

Oh yes !! One you had to PASS to get into not PAY. Not bad for a lad from what was, at the time, the dog roughest council estate in Aberdaugleddau (It has since 'improved', well they've built the Mount Estate since I was growing up )



ASBO - feicin brilliant news for Tig mucker, but Brizzle Uni ??? Should have gone to decent one like Swansea Metropolitan

Congrats to Miss Asbo! Looking back at the above conversation grades A-E do count as passes (whether we like it or not). Take it from someone who knows.......

Penfro - are you going to be safe with that camera at the rugby, what if someone mugs you?

Mrs Penfro please head-butt him for doubting me

Mrs Penfro wrote: Penfro - are you going to be safe with that camera at the rugby, what if someone mugs you?

As Notch/MrsP/Rava (I miss his face ) ..etc might say "Catch yerself on woman"

What does that mean in Welsh?

Cymroglan wrote:Mrs Penfro please head-butt him for doubting me

Never doubt anyone from Ynys Môn (or Ynys Moan as that blydi Kinnock woman calls it ) Just seems wrong that 97.....% can 'pass' an exam

rugbydreamer wrote:how big a slice of cake did you have Stag?!

Not very large really but just not that hungry. Still got a Song of Ice and Fire a few sambos and some fruit. Nice old lunchtime.

And I've just made my first call to a rugby club explaining who we are and what we do. After 15 minutes they have agreed to take SEVENTY people on tour with us!!! Thats double the size of most tours.

Penfro,

I suspect it used to be assumed that those who stayed on to take A Levels were the select elite who were more than capable of handling the work required at A Level so the pass rate would be vey high.

I suppose it's like that in most Uni courses were the vast majority are expected to pass.

red_stag wrote:a few sambos and some fruit..

Can you imagine the fun the 'moderators' on the BBC would've had with that

red_stag wrote: And I've just made my first call to a rugby club explaining who we are and what we do. After 15 minutes they have agreed to take SEVENTY people on tour with us!!! Thats double the size of most tours.

Just glad to have been of assistance Stag - anytime mucker

MrsP - I 'see' (quite literally in a looking at it in front of me type way) what you're saying

The OTHER MrsP - I'd think something like Mynnu doeth ? or would it be Doeth mynnu ?

Mrs Penfro,

Which of us is the "other woman" in that post do you think?

Thanks Pete for that. I couldn't believe it worked to the extent it did. Just found out I'm gonna have a TV in my office so I can watch the RWC

red_stag wrote:True Munsty. Feic Notch your some nerd!!

(True story)
I couldn't sleep last night. So I derived the formula for calculating the volume of a sphere using integration, in my head.

I got it right too.

I out-nerd you all.

greybeard wrote:

red_stag wrote:True Munsty. Feic Notch your some nerd!!

(True story)
I couldn't sleep last night. So I derived the formula for calculating the volume of a sphere using integration, in my head.

I got it right too.

I out-nerd you all.

As long as there was no trigonometry going on with that sphere we'll be ok.

red_stag wrote:Thanks Pete for that. I couldn't believe it worked to the extent it did. Just found out I'm gonna have a TV in my office so I can watch the RWC

Going to have to get there early so.

Sky+

Oh you've SKY+ out there as well? Very cushy.

One for the wall, Hobo's been out talking nicely to kitmakers again
https://www.606v2.com/t11894-win-a-signed-rwc-jersey#379857