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Post by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 9:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the Lionel Nallet photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?

Ale cuppa coffee mug guinness cider RedWine Bubbly

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Post by nottins Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:21 pm

Flood came on with 11 minutes of the game still to go, replacing Mike Catt. Not quite sure how it was his game ?

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Post by Cymroglan Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:23 pm

So it was not the game he scored a try and kicked a few penalties then ? he went off injured in the second half.

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Post by Thomond Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:29 pm

I went from Rugby where we did 20,40 and 60 metre sprints straight to a soccer game. Not my smartest move ever!

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Post by Cymroglan Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:29 pm

Ref blew for handball straight away ?

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Post by Thomond Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:30 pm

No,the result is I'm shattered!

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Post by nottins Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:32 pm

Cymroglan wrote:So it was not the game he scored a try and kicked a few penalties then ? he went off injured in the second half.

No. The only try in the RWC 2007 semi final between England and France was scored by Josh Lewsey after French full back Damien Traille let the ball bounce. laughing

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:34 pm

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red_stag wrote:I can see the thinking behind it though Cari. I'm so glad we don't have that culture in rugby.

I take it you haven't read Hosea Gear's comments about being left out of NZ's squad. Not guaranteed to take off somewhere else, but money seems to be uppermost in his thoughts atm. See planet rugby - sorry but as a 'newbie' I'm not allowed to post links.

Evening folks.


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Post by Thomond Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:34 pm

Nottins,was that try a Clement Poitrenaud 2004 HC final moment?

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Post by Cymroglan Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:37 pm

Evening HH
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,,3562_7121023,00.html

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Post by WillyGilly Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:40 pm

Welcome to Belfast Hosea.
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Post by nottins Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:41 pm

Thomond wrote:Nottins,was that try a Clement Poitrenaud 2004 HC final moment?

You'll have to expand on that as I'm not sure what your point is RedWine

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Post by Thomond Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:45 pm

Nottins,approximately 5:22 intothis video Poitrenaud made a huge mistake. Was Lewsey's try like that?

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:50 pm

Willy - he'll be fighting Trimble for that wing spot Wink


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Post by Thomond Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:51 pm

Hound,did you get a new account?

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Post by WillyGilly Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:52 pm

Nonsense. He'll be playing second fiddle to Craig Gilroy.
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Post by nottins Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:53 pm

Thomond wrote:Nottins,approximately 5:22 intothis video Poitrenaud made a huge mistake. Was Lewsey's try like that?

Ah yes, it was similiar. I'd forgotten for a minute that moment of genius by Howley.

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Post by Cymroglan Wed 24 Aug 2011, 10:02 pm

That was a cracking game

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Post by Notch Wed 24 Aug 2011, 10:10 pm

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:U
red_stag wrote:I can see the thinking behind it though Cari. I'm so glad we don't have that culture in rugby.

I take it you haven't read Hosea Gear's comments about being left out of NZ's squad. Not guaranteed to take off somewhere else, but money seems to be uppermost in his thoughts atm. See planet rugby - sorry but as a 'newbie' I'm not allowed to post links.

Evening folks.


A newbie? I thought you had way more posts than 13!

Anyway, the footballer making those comments was a millionaire. Rugby players in New Zealand earn a good crust, bottom of the ladder Super Rugby player would be earning a fair bit more than the average salary in NZ, but when you consider that it's a career that will leave you high and dry and looking for something else once you hit your mid 30s I understand why money is an issue for those with young families. Gear is probably making a good bit more because he's an All Black but he may only have a few years of that and won't have made all that much as a junior player.

More than anything, I think he is just disappointed in missing out and I think he wants a fresh start somewhere else. Doesn't seem to be any question he would feel differently had he made the cut.
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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Wed 24 Aug 2011, 10:56 pm

Willy - Conway was the other Ulster winger I was trying to think of, but my mate had tempted me to try a 6.1% beer when I posted Smile

Thomond - correct. I had to start from scratch after my phone went phut about a week ago.

Notch, I was just making a comparison with football, and that money does matter. But I agree that in many circumstances rugby players don't have the financial security that playing just one season in a Premiership footy team would bring.

And, as I'm responding to you Irish lads (plus reading back on the scrum half comments), I don't think any of your current crop of 9s would make any of the other 6N squads bar Italy's.

Possibly controversial, but I did run that by a couple of Irish mates over the weekend. When they thought it over, and considered the 9s that Scotland, France, Wales and England have in their squads, they agreed with me.

Perhaps that's worth an article, but I can't be @rsed to post it right now.

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Post by WillyGilly Wed 24 Aug 2011, 11:12 pm

Not to rain on your parade hound but Conway plays for Leinster.
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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Wed 24 Aug 2011, 11:22 pm

Err, sorry Willy, dunno why I mentioned Conway 🤦

Dang beer!

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Post by Notch Wed 24 Aug 2011, 11:27 pm

Yeah, I agree with you regarding the scrum-halfs. I think young Conor Murray will develop into a very good player but he's proved nothing yet and is completely untested. Boss- we haven't really seen what he can offer. I'm backing him to play well if he gets the chance, Reddan is the best but is nothing special.

France are miles ahead of everybody! Parra would walk into anyones team and Yachvilli is hardly a bad back-up. Then Scotland with Cusiter/Blair/Lawson/Laidlaw, England have Youngs- I might have to say, with Care being injured, I would rate Reddan higher than Wigglesworth but not by much.

It's certainly a weakness. The fact Kidney has included two nines who barely had any meaningful gametime in test rugby recently says a lot. The fact all the Irish fans agree with his decision says even more!
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Post by WillyGilly Wed 24 Aug 2011, 11:33 pm

Don't worry hound. 6.1% beer? That's pretty strong stuff. Does it hail from Deutschland?
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Post by WillyGilly Wed 24 Aug 2011, 11:54 pm

No one in tonight? You have 5 minutes or I start making bad jokes.
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Post by WillyGilly Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:03 am

What do you call a dog with no hind legs and steel testicles?


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Post by WillyGilly Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:04 am

Why does a milking stool have only 3 legs?


Because the cow has the utter.
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Post by WillyGilly Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:07 am

Where does a general keep his army?


In his sleevy.
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Post by Notch Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:33 am

I quite dislike Keith Wood as a pundit. Whenever Ireland don't do well it feels like he makes excuses for us.
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Post by WillyGilly Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:56 am

One more before I depart to the land of nod.

I see the CEO of Apple, Steve Jobs has resigned. The company must be shocked to it's core.

Ciao.
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Post by Suspicious lurker Thu 25 Aug 2011, 6:12 am

Morning all,

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/
http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport?mobile-redirect=false
http://sport.scotsman.com/rugby
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/rugby

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/
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Post by Suspicious lurker Thu 25 Aug 2011, 7:11 am

Stag,


how you fixed for Friday??
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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Thu 25 Aug 2011, 7:51 am

Morning. Sorry Willy I crashed out last night. Oddly enough, that 6.1 beer is brewed in Twickenham. Thank might explain a lot as far as the RFU are concerned Wink


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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:09 am

Bore da pawb / good morning all. It's sunny here on the docks - for now!

One for the wall:

https://www.606v2.com/t12406-favourite-song-lyrics#401149

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:32 am

Ireland v England part 1 today....





Cricket ODI....





At Clontarf.


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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:33 am

With Eoin Morgan captaining England. David Lloyd seemed to think he'd get a great reception. I'm not so sure...

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:34 am

WillyGilly wrote:I see the CEO of Apple, Steve Jobs has resigned. The company must be shocked to it's core.

They're going to launch one last product before he goes - the iQuit.

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Post by Cari Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:37 am

If you want good gags check these out...Micky T would be proud.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14646532

Morning All coffee

Enjoy home Hughie. OK

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:57 am

luckless_pedestrian wrote:With Eoin Morgan captaining England. David Lloyd seemed to think he'd get a great reception. I'm not so sure...

Lloyd isn't nicknamed Bumble for nothing Doh


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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 25 Aug 2011, 9:08 am

Notch wrote:
Hound_of_Harrow wrote:U
red_stag wrote:I can see the thinking behind it though Cari. I'm so glad we don't have that culture in rugby.

I take it you haven't read Hosea Gear's comments about being left out of NZ's squad. Not guaranteed to take off somewhere else, but money seems to be uppermost in his thoughts atm. See planet rugby - sorry but as a 'newbie' I'm not allowed to post links.

Evening folks.


A newbie? I thought you had way more posts than 13!

Anyway, the footballer making those comments was a millionaire. Rugby players in New Zealand earn a good crust, bottom of the ladder Super Rugby player would be earning a fair bit more than the average salary in NZ, but when you consider that it's a career that will leave you high and dry and looking for something else once you hit your mid 30s I understand why money is an issue for those with young families. Gear is probably making a good bit more because he's an All Black but he may only have a few years of that and won't have made all that much as a junior player.

More than anything, I think he is just disappointed in missing out and I think he wants a fresh start somewhere else. Doesn't seem to be any question he would feel differently had he made the cut.

Morning all.

Missing the RWC squad would mean that Gear would stop being rated (and paid) as an AB come the new year - effectively halving his salary - a good SXV player in NZ probably earns around £80-90k*, an ABs contract on top would get £150k+, with McCaw & Carter on nearly double that (plus endorsements).

*Back in 1999 or so I chatted to Norm Maxwell in a bar (pre ABs capping) and he said (my mate outright asked him!) he was on $110k then - around £55k at today's exchange rate.
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Post by red_stag Thu 25 Aug 2011, 9:09 am

HUghie, had no power at work yesterday. Means I prob won't be able dash out early tomorrow cos I'll have to get up to date on some stuff. But I'll be up tomorrow evening about 8.30 or 9
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 25 Aug 2011, 9:29 am

Morning all, fairly busy day but can't focus due to RUGBY TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Think i'm a tad excited Yahoo
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Post by Cari Thu 25 Aug 2011, 9:37 am

Hope you have a good game Prop...and NO injuries! I bet you'll be sore tomorrow mind Smile

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 25 Aug 2011, 9:50 am

Cari: if I get through a match without an injury it'll be a god-send....just ask penfro! My fault for chucking my body on the line!
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Post by littleswannygirl Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:27 am

Tumbleweed

Think I'll just raid the kitchen and help myself to cuppa and cake
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:30 am

Pass any coffee you find my way please Swanny.

RIP Graeme Moody, one of the best radio rugby commentators I've ever listened to.
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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:39 am

Kiwi - that was a bit tongue in cheek last night (see comments about beer).

The SXV money isn't bad if stuff costs the same in $NZ there as it does in £ here.

With an average squad of 35 here the mean wage is about £120k. Obvously for every player we pay £250k, two more will have to be on about £60 to stay within the cap.


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Post by Thomond Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:43 am

Hound,a few questions.
There's a tube station in Harrow right?
Tube tickets are relatively cheap right?

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:45 am

Thomond wrote:Hound,a few questions.
There's a tube station in Harrow right?
Tube tickets are relatively cheap right?

On Houndf's behalf, yes to both questions.
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Post by nottins Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:47 am

Thomond wrote:Hound,a few questions.
There's a tube station in Harrow right?
Tube tickets are relatively cheap right?

Here's a good place to look: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/2625.aspx

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