The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the team photos of the World Cup finalists. Or the action shots (put up especially for Cari) of McCaw, Kahui and Corey Jane.

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?



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I’d hate if it went to squad numbers. Or retiring a number after a player leaves the club.
I think it’s a bad attitude to have, no matter how much of a legend the player is/was…

Retiring a number? Does that happen?

I am with Mickado on that one.

Love the 1-15 set that is in place.

Some players coming out in football wearing like 65 and all sorts of squad numbers.

it's just too messy. keep this simples.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:Retiring a number? Does that happen?

Some football teams do it and it's all the rage in american sports.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:Retiring a number? Does that happen?

Happens in the US sports a lot. No one who plays for Miami, for example, is allowed to wear 13 because that number was retired when Dan Marino hung up his boots.

In ice hockey 99 was retired league wide when Wayne Gretzky retired.

It's a nice touch, but it's their tradition. Didn't Bath have a tradition of not wearing 13?

mickyt wrote:I am with Mickado on that one.

Love the 1-15 set that is in place.

Some players coming out in football wearing like 65 and all sorts of squad numbers.

it's just too messy. keep this simples.

Ah but should SOB wear 6.5 when he is playing openside. Apparently he isn't a proper 7.

Didn't Argentina consider retiring 7 (i think!?) for Maradonna?

it's very common in basketball. they retire jerseys/numbers all the time over there.

some players that aren't even hall of famers have had their jerseys retired. I don't overly agree with that

10 for Maradona, but they never did it.

Those American sports need to be careful they don't run out of numbers.

Ireland set to retire the 13 shirt when BOD goes?

Nah, no fear of that Staggy..

need to free the number up for the next BOD

red_stag wrote:Ireland set to retire the 13 shirt when BOD goes?

Absolutely. And we should retrospectively retire 2 for Woody, 11 for Geoghegan, 10, 12 and 14 for Gibson, 10 again for Kyle, 4 for Willie John, 1 and 3 for the Claw...

Why don't teams, instead of retiring shirts, simply put the 'legends' initals on the top somewhere so for example: say BOD retires, Leinster would have BOD/something like that on the sleeve?

Having never seen Simon Geoghegan play I've always wondered - Why is he rated so highly?

- Never played for the Lions

- Only around 35 caps

- We poached him from England

prop_lyd wrote:Why don't teams, instead of retiring shirts, simply put the 'legends' initals on the top somewhere so for example: say BOD retires, Leinster would have BOD/something like that on the sleeve?

On the jersey of the next person coming into it? that's a bit of unnecessary pressure on that next person to fill that jersey I would have thought.

Having never seen Simon Geoghegan play...

The answer was in the question.

Anyway, it was because:
1 He got Bill McLaren all excited
2 The rest of the Irish players were really quite poor, he was the best of a bad bunch (and before anybody else says it so were the Welsh players)

Stag he was an absolute breath of fresh air at the time. Gangly mazy runner who baffled the opposition and his teammates in equal proportions.

To be honest Stag not having seen much of him myself but at the same time. I know injury kept him from one of the Lions tour and I remember checking some thing before where they felt that he was hard done by getting left out of the 93 Lions tour.

mickyt wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:Why don't teams, instead of retiring shirts, simply put the 'legends' initals on the top somewhere so for example: say BOD retires, Leinster would have BOD/something like that on the sleeve?

On the jersey of the next person coming into it? that's a bit of unnecessary pressure on that next person to fill that jersey I would have thought.

Quite right Micky T. Now you see why I said last night what I did about the young fellas running the country

Rava wrote:Stag he was an absolute breath of fresh air at the time. Gangly mazy runner who baffled the opposition and his teammates in equal proportions.

Yes, one of those players that would run through a brick wall if the coach told him to. Played as if he was a foot taller and two stones heavier and injury prone as a result. The early 90's really were dark days for rugby.

Did professionalism save rugby? BTW Glas you'll have an email in next few minutes.

Rava wrote:

mickyt wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:Why don't teams, instead of retiring shirts, simply put the 'legends' initals on the top somewhere so for example: say BOD retires, Leinster would have BOD/something like that on the sleeve?

On the jersey of the next person coming into it? that's a bit of unnecessary pressure on that next person to fill that jersey I would have thought.

Quite right Micky T. Now you see why I said last night what I did about the young fellas running the country

Just a thought, unsure of it when I wrote it to be honest. How would it be possible to honour players then.....could always build statues of every player....Ulster would be quiet

Ah Rava you know you'd enjoy my country.....cider, rugby, ska + bluegrass music, everyone must wear flat-caps or bowlers or tribly's!! Perfect!!

Micky T - I remember you saying once you had problems buying big shoes....?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051081/Missed-decimal-point-sees-slipper-ordered-China-returned-size-1-450--big-owner-sleep-in.html

Did professionalism save rugby?

Yes. Although the medicine almost killed the patient, and it is yet to make a full recovery - I predict that SH domestic rugby will go jubblies up in the next five years.

Cari wrote:Micky T - I remember you saying once you had problems buying big shoes....?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051081/Missed-decimal-point-sees-slipper-ordered-China-returned-size-1-450--big-owner-sleep-in.html

red_stag wrote:Having never seen Simon Geoghegan play I've always wondered - Why is he rated so highly?

- Never played for the Lions

- Only around 35 caps

- We poached him from England

I'm not religious, but sometimes think we should bring back stoning!

Injury forced him into retirement, he would have had many more caps otherwise. Injuries also ruined one of his Lions chances, the other was political (he gave the Irish coach a bawling out after one defeat when the coach tried the "ah, there were some positives lads" approach. He went a bit angry and started yelling "Name them, f**king name them!" after that the IRFU did their best to undermine him.) When the Lions needed a winger called up as a replacement they told the Lions they could have Richard Wallace (a good winger but never in Simons class)

He had an electricity to him, any time he had the ball everyone sat forward in their seat. The Ireland team at the time was so poor only 2 made the 1993 lions tour but Geoghegan made everyone expectant, he could turn a game.

But we didn't use him. In one 5 nations he was given one (one!) single attacking pass. That's how poor we were.

The other thing, that not many people remember, is he was as good at the breakdown as BOD is. He would attack rucks wich a vengance. We could have used him as a centre if we had a coach who knew what he was doing.

Ah, I could talk about him all day. The most exciting player I ever saw. He played for LI and Bath, and when he was surrounded by decent players he scored at will in the club scene.

Rava wrote:Stag he was an absolute breath of fresh air at the time. Gangly mazy runner who baffled the opposition and his teammates in equal proportions.

And, by his own admission, himself sometimes

Gaddafi captured apparently. The eyes of the world are on you Libya. Try not to kill him just yet.

Was Geoghegan involved?

red_stag wrote:Having never seen Simon Geoghegan play I've always wondered - Why is he rated so highly?

- Never played for the Lions

- Only around 35 caps

- We poached him from England

Geoghegan was awesome. A professional surrounded by amateurs in a period were the highlight of the Irish season was beating Wales to avoid the 5N wooden spoon.

He was lightening quick and hurled himself into tackles with no regard for his own health. He'd have walked into the lions test side in his pomp circa 1994-5 and if he'd have came along a generation later I'm sure he'd have got 50+ international tries outside O'Driscoll and D'arcy.

No Sam Warbs was there though. He has a few weekends spare this month.

Too soon?

If a monkey had two bumholes he'd be a double barrel.

Glas a du wrote:Was Geoghegan involved?

He was waiting to be involved, but the Libyans never passed the deposed dictator to him.

WillyGilly wrote:No Sam Warbs was there though. He has a few weekends spare this month.

Too soon?

Funny that, I'd heard he was sorting the Irish out at Dale Farm.

I'm thinking that our rugby tour company could do great business by offering Welsh fans the chance to punch Alain Rolland. One punch = £100

He's a mortgage broken - in this current climate he'll be desarate for the cash!!!

Apparently Gaddafi has been shot dead.

greybeard wrote:

Glas a du wrote:Was Geoghegan involved?

He was waiting to be involved, but the Libyans never passed the deposed dictator to him.

Young Geoghegan there was like a salmon up a byrne! The way he just ran through the personal bodyguard, he was like a camel being stung on the rump by a wasp, they'll be singing on the streets of Knebworth tonight...etc.

Stag - I don't harbour any hatred towards Rolland, but there may be others outside that would take you up on the offer.

red_stag wrote:I'm thinking that our rugby tour company could do great business by offering Welsh fans the chance to punch Alain Rolland. One punch = £100

He's a mortgage broken - in this current climate he'll be desarate for the cash!!!

A mortgage broker? A Mortgage broker! Let me at him!

Cari - your right. I think every single Welsh Pub Reg has taken that incident in the right spirit. Disappointed it happened. If theres money to be made though well and good.

red_stag wrote:Cari - your right. I think every single Welsh Pub Reg has taken that incident in the right spirit. Disappointed it happened. If theres money to be made though well and good.

It's not the said thing, but I was more disappointed in Warburton. They know Rolland's style, don't give him the chance. It serves us right for all the Hubris in the run up. Some of it made me ill.

red_stag wrote:Cari - your right. I think every single Welsh Pub Reg has taken that incident in the right spirit. Disappointed it happened. If theres money to be made though well and good.

Well it would serve them right to be exploited.

Glas - I don't blame Warbs either. I don't blame anyone really. It was a bad accident. Stupid and avoidable, but just one of them frustrating things that happens in sport sometimes. Tough titty.

I put it down to the over enthusiasm of youth.

Staggy - you're enjoying your new job then? Have you started uni now?

I put it down to RL defensive coaches not paying attention to the details between the sports

All that "It's a perfectly good tackle in RL" stuff is nonsense. A forward pass would be a perfectly good idea in American Football, doesn't mean it should be accepted in union.

I have Cari. I'm finding it extremely difficult to juggle everything. Doing ok but I need to at least double the amount of uni work Im doing.

Staggy - Is there anything you'd be happy to forfeit to fit in other stuff? I suppose it's a case of prioritising things and organising other things around the important bits. Tough job though.

Oh yea the time I've spend sat on my backside should be able to go

I think it should be ok. I'm basically looking at 2 hours uni work per day.

My schedule should be:

Mon - Work from 9-17.30. Uni from 18.30-20.30. Pub from 21.00-00.00

Tue - Work from 9-17.30. Gym from 19.00-20.00. Referee Training from 20.30-22.00. Flick over notes for half hour.

Wed - Work from 9-17.30. Uni from 18.30-21.00

Thur - Work from 9-17.30. Fitness from 18.00-19.00. Uni from 20.30-22.00

Friday - Work from 9-17.30. Flick over notes for half hour.

Sat - Study from 12.00-14.00 and again from 15.00-17.00.

Sun - Rugby from 11.00-14.00. Uni from 16.00-18.00

WillyGilly wrote:No Sam Warbs was there though. He has a few weekends spare this month.

Too soon?

Apparently they sent secret agent O'Brien to deal with it a week previously but they had to send in someone who could actually get the job done hence Warbs