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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 29 Dec 2011, 1:41 pm

First topic message reminder :

Let's see if we can revive this old chestnut while we're still enjoying the festive season and, presumably, in light hearted mood. You know the score ; somebody asks a question and the person who provides the correct answer asks the next question, and so on.

I'll get the ball rolling with a fairly easy one :

One of the most controversial title fights in heavyweight history is linked to a true legend of boxing ( not a heavyweight, ) by a major US city and a relative who is not yet famous but will become famous immediately after the fight in question.

Who are the relatives, which is the city and which is the title fight?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 02 Jan 2012, 3:22 pm

You are correct Windy but worded the question poorly i'll add, meant that they held different world titles at the time but not necessarily defended them in the same fight. Armstrong of course at one point or another defended all three of his titles while holding the other two.

On reflection having read this believe it to be wrong anyway as Saddler held and defended the featherweight and super featherweight titles at the same time.

Men such as Leonard and Whitaker held two titles at the same time but only went on to defend one of them.

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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 3:41 pm

Still a good brain teaser though, Ghosty.

Besides, it's murder sorting out the multi weight champs and what they did or didn't do for a given fight.

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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 3:50 pm

Which fight is famous for its "Ten Seconds of Sunlight" moniker, and what is the significance of those ten seconds of sunlight?

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:08 pm

I believe it refers to a tragic fight in which Luther McCarthy was killed, Windy, as they fought on a dark, overcast day in which the only ray of sunlight which appeared just happened to fall on the body of the fallen man. Can't remember who he was fighting, but I'm pretty sure that's the one - there are a couple of good articles on it which I've stumbled across in the past.
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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:28 pm

Bang on, Chris. Well done.

McCarty was thought to be the best of the ' white hopes ' and not just casual fans but also some boxing insiders believed he could beat Johnson. Sadly, he died when facing Arthur Pelkey from what later turned out to be injuries previously suffered in a riding accident.

The day was overcast but, as the referee began administering the count, a bright beam of sunlight abruptly appeared on McCarty's face. At the count of ten it disappeared just as suddenly, and McCarty died minutes later.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:35 pm

Incredible story really isn't it, Windy? A pretty chilling one, too.

I imagine this will be a straightforward one, but I'm running a bit low on questions!

Tex Rickard doubled as both promoter and then referee in the 1910 'Fight of the Century' between Jack Johnson and Jim Jeffries. But which very special individual had Rickard first asked to referee the bout, to which the individual in question replied that he was 'busy'?
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:39 pm

The american president, who's name escapes me.

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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:41 pm

It certainly is, Chris.

I believe Rickard actually asked former President Teddy Roosevelt, ( who was a boxing fan, ) to referee it.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:43 pm

Well, you're definitely right in so much that he asked a President to officiate the fight, Windy, though I have a different name to Roosevelt - which is desperately close to the answer I have.
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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:45 pm

In that case, Chris, I'd reckon that Ghosty nailed it with the serving President at the time which was Taft, if I remember rightly.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:46 pm

Taft is indeed the name I was after, Windy - though I can't say with any certainty that he didn't ask Roosevelt first. Nice work.
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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:49 pm

Thank you, Chris.

However, Ghosty deserves the plaudits, since I had been pretty sure it had been the former president, Roosevelt, owing to his having been a friend of John L Sullivan - he was asked to be a pall bearer at Sullivan's funeral - and a boxing fan.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:52 pm

Didn't realise Ghosty had posted an answer! Apologies. Take it away, either one of you.
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Post by HumanWindmill Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:56 pm

All yours, Ghosty.

I'm away for an hour or two, fellas. Have fun.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 02 Jan 2012, 4:58 pm

Which Welterweight twice failed in attempts at winning a second world title despite knocking his opponent down twice both times.

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 02 Jan 2012, 5:04 pm

Tough one. Tony DeMarco, maybe?
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 02 Jan 2012, 5:13 pm

A lot more recent.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 03 Jan 2012, 10:31 am

Just to ask / point out something, did Manny Pacqiaou hold two titles at the same time? He won his Welterweight WBO and defended it against Cotto then Clottey, faced Marg at LMW and won that then came back down to redefend his Welterweight title, though he didn't defend both titles att he same time, but held them at the same time, am I correct?

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 10:39 am

Ghosty, just to clarify, are we talking about exclusively Welterweight fights here? Or can those knockdowns have come in title tilts at higher weights?
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Post by Rowley Tue 03 Jan 2012, 10:44 am

Is it Quartey? Remember him having DLH over unless the mind is playing tricks, no idea who else he fought or knocked over though.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 10:48 am

I thought about Quartey too, Rowley, but like you I couldn't see where a second knockdown in another unsuccessful title fight came from. Also considered Mosley who 'decked' Manny last year, but a second case wasn't forthcoming.
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 6:54 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Just to ask / point out something, did Manny Pacqiaou hold two titles at the same time? He won his Welterweight WBO and defended it against Cotto then Clottey, faced Marg at LMW and won that then came back down to redefend his Welterweight title, though he didn't defend both titles att he same time, but held them at the same time, am I correct?

He held them at the same time much like Leonard, Hatton and Whitaker but vacated almost straight away.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 6:55 pm

88Chris05 wrote:I thought about Quartey too, Rowley, but like you I couldn't see where a second knockdown in another unsuccessful title fight came from. Also considered Mosley who 'decked' Manny last year, but a second case wasn't forthcoming.

Very close with Quartey.

Both title tilts were at Welterweight and on both occassions he knocked the champion down twice.

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:14 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:I thought about Quartey too, Rowley, but like you I couldn't see where a second knockdown in another unsuccessful title fight came from. Also considered Mosley who 'decked' Manny last year, but a second case wasn't forthcoming.

Very close with Quartey.

Both title tilts were at Welterweight and on both occassions he knocked the champion down twice.

Colin Jones against Milt McCrory?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:19 pm

Nope.

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:25 pm

Harold Weston

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:27 pm

He's fairly recent.

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:32 pm

And he still lost?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:35 pm

Which Welterweight twice failed in attempts at winning a second world title despite knocking his opponent down twice both times?

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Post by skidd1 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:43 pm

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 7:55 pm

Nope, need to think outside the box, he's not a very well known boxer.

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:02 pm

More clues please.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:06 pm

Not really any clues to give about the guy but Rowley has been agonisingly close.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:16 pm

Brainwave - Jose Luis Lopez?
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:19 pm

Bang on Chris

Dropped Quartey twice before drawing and dropped James Page twice before losing, had previously won the very lightly regarded at the time WBO title.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:31 pm

The Quartey fight I remembered well, the Page one less so. Tough question, that one!

Really struggling for decent questions myself, mind you! Erm...

Who is the youngest Lightweight world title holder in history?
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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:38 pm

Ramos

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:42 pm

Very close Azania, but no.
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:44 pm

Lopez is very much a forgotten man of the 90's.

Edwin Rosario?

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:47 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Very close Azania, but no.

Damn. As Ghosty said, it must be Rosario.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:50 pm

And it's Ghosty by a nose. Rosario was the answer.
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:55 pm

Nice easy one this time.

What links Basilio, De La Hoya and Cooney?

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:58 pm

Easy? wtf. Ok, random but correct without doubt. They all have 'o' in their names.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 8:59 pm

It's easy if you know the answer, decided to throw a wild card name into the mix.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 03 Jan 2012, 9:00 pm

God knows. Will take a guess - did they all command a (then) record fee for a challenger in a world title fight?
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 9:00 pm

Not the answer I was thinking of Chris, another name or two i'll add if the answer isn't forthcoming.

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Post by azania Tue 03 Jan 2012, 9:04 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Not the answer I was thinking of Chris, another name or two i'll add if the answer isn't forthcoming.

YOu may as well add them now. They have all been involved in racially charged fights. Cooney/Holmes. Oscar/Pernell (he said African americans dont like body punches) and Basillo/SRR perhaps?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 03 Jan 2012, 9:09 pm

Joe Frazier.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Tue 03 Jan 2012, 10:09 pm

Southpaws

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Tue 03 Jan 2012, 10:09 pm

or natural lefties converted to fighting orthodox.

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