The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the Virtual Rugby Pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the pictures of Sergio Parisse and Owen Farrell above the bar.





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As long as Cardiff Blues refuse to drop Cardiff from the name they will at times be referred to as Cardiff.

To me its that simple. Northampton Saints are sometimes called "Saints" and sometimes called Northampton. Same for the Cardiff Blues.

Let them go the way of the Ospreys or Scarlets if its such a big deal to them.

Not at all Glas, no worries.


It's just a bit of a sore point still back home, after all this time no one has ever been held criminally responsible. Such a terrible tragedy

Or follow the Brumbies: the KAB Blues (Keaaardiff 'n associated bits)

Rava wrote:

Notch wrote:Looks much more finished than our stadium.

Patience dear boy. I am on it

I meant the one in Dublin, as you well know.

red_stag wrote:As long as Cardiff Blues refuse to drop Cardiff from the name they will at times be referred to as Cardiff.

To me its that simple. Northampton Saints are sometimes called "Saints" and sometimes called Northampton. Same for the Cardiff Blues.

Let them go the way of the Ospreys or Scarlets if its such a big deal to them.

I'm going to keep calling them Cardiff sometimes and the Blues sometimes. Mainly due to force of habit. But I think until they actually change their name, it's fair enough. I mean, the team is called what it's called.

I think part of the reason for this is that Blues, by itself, is an incredibly drab, uninspiring name for a sports team. It's fine as a nickname, but it's not memorable enough to avoid people letting the odd Cardiff slip out by mistake.

If you have any difficulty remembering what they are called just look at the league table.
I would have thought that followers of rugby would have realised that they have been called Cardiff Blues since 2003.

Cymroglan, yes they are called the Cardiff Blues. Not THE BLUES which is equally as incorrect as calling them Cardiff.

Also Cymro people dont do it to be offensive. It is mere habit. Cardiff (I actually just typed Cardiff, I have realised at end of sentence but will leave it in to highlight my point) have kept the name Cardiff in the team name. Therefore it is a logical habit to call them that.

red_stag wrote:Cymroglan, yes they are called the Cardiff Blues. Not THE BLUES which is equally as incorrect as calling them Cardiff.

Yes but the fans of the regional concept would find the Blues more acceptable than Cardiff.

Yeah and we're called Ulster Rugby, but people won't refer to us as that all the time.

Why not try and get out of the habit then ? It's not the end of the world if you call them Cardiff but this has been talked about several times.
I was guilty of calling the Lions the British Lions but my mistake was pointed out to me and I learnt by it.

Funnily enough I was just about to say I know some Irish people get offended by it but I never even notice that British Lions thing and once I actually wrote the term on a thread before being lynched by a big angry virtual green mob!!

It's a good analogy, but different. That's Lions fans getting annoyed at other Lions fans. We aren't Cardiff fans or even Welsh. I don't get exercised when fans from other nations call them the British Lions.

Cut us some slack!

I genuinely forgot the Irish bit because I was rushing my reply on the old 606 but my mistake was pointed out to me and rightly so.

Did anybody find out if the Irish fans will be compensated for the match being called off or was it just a spoof?

Notch
It's no great hardship calling them the Blues is it?

Morning all Please.

Hope everyone is well this morning especially all our Blues citizens. Or is it Cardiff. I'm so confused

Cymroglan wrote:Why not try and get out of the habit then ? It's not the end of the world if you call them Cardiff but this has been talked about several times.
I was guilty of calling the Lions the British Lions but my mistake was pointed out to me and I learnt by it.

For me it was the same thing, I called the British and Irish Lions, the British Lions or simply just the Lions. But then I saw Irish folk getting upset because it should be called the British and Irish Lions.

Problem is, the poilitical situation between Ireland and England is foreign to me, so the sensitivity regarding the whole issue is mostly due to ignorance.

You find that with other things as well.

The australian commentators often call us the Africans, now sometimes I get the feeling it is meant to be condescending, I don't know.

But it peeves me off, as we are South Africans, Kenya are Kenyans. What would these guys say if these two nations face each other in a sevens match, "the Africans are really putting pressure on the Africans. It is utterly unacceptable, yet it does happen.

Bore da pawb
It seems that pointing out Rava's small error I set off a whole train of comments both in the original article and in here Next time I see something wrong I won't feicin bother pointing it out I'll just leave it

Ah sure is that not the whole point of the forum, to discuss things?

Was great fun and I think we came up with some better alternatives than a very expensive design consultancy would have charged a fortune to produce.



Back at you!

Bore da pawb / good morning all.

Prop: go for the interview. That doesn't tie you to taking the job but at the very least it gives you interview experience, which is always good to get.

Penfrail Just you keep on pointing out the small errors but when you see something wrong just keep

So David Cameron's going to give a speech about the 'scandal' of public drunkenness. How many dozens of politicians have made similar speeches before him? The British like a drink. I don't know what can be done about that, as long as alcohol remains the only legal mood-altering substance.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:So David Cameron's going to give a speech about the 'scandal' of public drunkenness. How many dozens of politicians have made similar speeches before him? The British like a drink. I don't know what can be done about that, as long as alcohol remains the only legal mood-altering substance.

It's fine for him and his Bullingdon chums to get smashed on champers behind closed doors tho - feicing hypocrite

Well that's completely different of couse, As.

But my point is that people will always want to take / drink something that changes their mood, that gives them a lift or a temporary escape from their day-to-day lives. The current situation is that the only legal substance people can take that does that is one of the most potentially damaging there is. But the government has shown no willingness to even contemplate changing which substances are legal and which are not.

It's all about the speeches, not so much about the policy. Of recent Prime Ministers, Cameron has the least substance. He's basically a PR man. There's no real intention to do anything about this issue he highlights.

Notch wrote:Cameron has the least substance.

Well he'd be a real hypocrite if he had a bag of charlie on him, wouldn't he?

"But my point is that people will always want to take / drink something that changes their mood, that gives them a lift or a temporary escape from their day-to-day lives. The current situation is that the only legal substance people can take that does that is one of the most potentially damaging there is. But the government has shown no willingness to even contemplate changing which substances are legal and which are not."

Can't agree with that at all Lucky. Certainly alcohol causes hugh problems to society but that is because of the way it is used and the fact that it is so widely used.

The total effect is high but if you look at the effects as a percentage of those using alcohol it is much less. There are many many illegal substances which cause a far high damage/user ratio.

The problem is the way alcohol is used especially by the young. You really don't need much alcohol to change your mood but people don't pay any attention to it's effects and drink to almost oblivion. Most other countries have similar attitudes to other drugs as us and they do not have the same problems with alcohol.

I really don't see how relaxing drug laws would help with the problems caused to society by alcohol.

MrsP wrote:Certainly alcohol causes hugh problems to society but that is because of the way it is used and the fact that it is so widely used.
The total effect is high but if you look at the effects as a percentage of those using alcohol it is much less. There are many many illegal substances which cause a far high damage/user ratio.

I really don't see how relaxing drug laws would help with the problems caused to society by alcohol.

MrsP, your first point is surely down to the fact that alcohol is legal and so more people have taken it. I'd say you'd have a similar damage / user ratio if any other substance had the position in society that alcohol has - and if alcohol was illegal and its production unregulated, the damage / user ratio would be huge.

As to your second point, relaxing drug laws would give people a choice of which legal substance they choose to use. They might well choose a substance that doesn't lead them to behave as alcohol leads them to behave.

I for one don't need alcohol to get away from the day to day stuff.

I read an england vs Wales bickering thread instead.

Be careful, Biltong, you might have withdrawal symptoms when the Six Nations is over!

Nah, then I go to a scarlet vs Leicester tigers thread or something similar.

Lads, the Ian Madigan thread has turned into a Sexton debate. (he needs to cop on) Join in the fun!

The people who drink to unconsciousness at every opportunity would seek the same result with whichever substance they could afford.

I think we need to address that desire to misuse substances rather than extend the list of available methods of self destruction!

I agree with your first sentence, Mrs P. But I'm talking about otherwise perfectly nice, sound, sensible people who go out on the weekend and end up getting into fights and all sorts because they've had too much to drink. If these people had alternative substances they could choose, substances that didn't get them into such a state, I'd bet most of them wouldn't choose alcohol. As it is, they have to choose alcohol.

Thomond wrote:Lads, the Ian Madigan thread has turned into a Sexton debate. (he needs to cop on) Join in the fun!

The thread is entitled Ian Madigan and no one has mentioned his name in about 30 posts. Nothing like a bit of rampant tribalism to get you set for the day.

In South Africa we have a saying.

first you Drink to have fun and relax after a weeks hard work. (good intentions)
Then you drink until you get cute and witty. (really enjoying yourself without irritating anyone)
Then you drink yourself to be the sharpest tool in the shed (you become irritating)
Then you eventually drink till you become the strongest man in the pub. (you are begging for someone to show you, you aren't the toughest bloke in the pub)
Then eventually you get clobbered. (you got what you came here for)

I think I mentioned him Willy. Madigan is better than .......


Sex

Spoiler:

Lucky,

I don't think the issue is with "sound, sensible people" as they will rarely get into the state where they cause trouble.

It's with the folk who go out with the intention of becoming as drunk as they can afford to get regardless of how much trouble they cause.

I don't think anyone would doubt that alcohol has become more of a problem in our society as it has become more available and affordable. Is it too much of a jump to say that we should be trying to reverse that trend? Rather than make another substance more available and affordable?

Anyone else think there's something a tad ironic about debating the pros and cons of alcohol in a virtual pub...... ..... ......

If another substance is less likely to cause people to get into fights and generally behave like idiots, whilst still giving them the lift or temporary escape they want on a Friday night, I think it should be made available as a legal alternative to alcohol.

Absolutely not Rodders!

And that brings me to my next point.

Alcohol has proven health benefits for the general population at moderate dosage.

Anyway, the drink and the trouble thereafter are only virtual here!

I'm not sure the plonkers who get very drunk and cause trouble would be attracted to any other sort of high Lucky.

I think for some the "causing trouble" is not an unwanted side affect but an aim.

Wooooo Hoooooo!

Just booked 4 tickets for our Quarter Final!!!!

MrsP wrote:I'm not sure the plonkers who get very drunk and cause trouble would be attracted to any other sort of high Lucky.

I think for some the "causing trouble" is not an unwanted side affect but an aim.

That may well be true, Mrs P. But we've all woken up in the morning and regretted our behaviour of the night before when we've had one drink too many. Now if there was an alternative to alcohol whose effects were quite different after 'one too many,' I'd advocate both being made available.

But enough about that. Congratulations on the tickets!

MrsP - does that mean I can expect to welcome you to Thomond!!!

Personally I think on issue in Ireland and UK with alcohol is that it is such a big part of the sports scene here. Cricket, Rugby, GAA, Soccer all have a big drinking culture.

Cricket has a big drinking culture?! I thought it was all tea and crumpets.

Stag,

You will certainly be welcoming some of us but I will be the adult to miss out if we don't manage to round up enough for all of us.



Might be down in Nenagh the weekend before (or is it 2 weekends before) though.

Hope to have tickets sorted out soon.

Nenagh really? Thats near to me - you'll have to stop in and say hello. Its Donnacha Ryan country.

Your all more than welcome. If needs be MrsP I'll find you a place to watch the game and you can use my house as a base for the game to park cars etc.

Notch - beds for you and old man are prepared.

Well we might well take you up on that bit of the offer thank you kindly.

Unless we can get more tickets I will stay with whichever kids aren't going.

I'll let you know about if/when we might be in Nenagh when I know. I haven't seen the timetable yet to work out which events are on which weekend.