606v2 Mock Draft

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Round #1 underway

#1.Panthers - Cam Newton QB Auburn
#2.Broncos - Marcel Dareus DT Alabama
#3.Bills - Nick Fairley DT Auburn
#4.Benglas. Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
#5.Cards Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
#6.Browns AJ Green WR Georgia
#7.49rs Patrick Peterson CB LSU
#8 Titans Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
#9 Cowboys Tyron Smith OT USC
#10 Skins JJ Watt DE Wisconsin
#11.Texans Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
#12 Vikings Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
#13 Lions Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College
#14 Rams Julio Jones WR Alabama
#15 Dolphins Mike Pouncey G Florida
#16 Jaguars Ryan Kerrigan DE Perdue
#17 Patriots Cam Jordan DE Cal
#18 Chargers Muhammad Wilkerson DE Temple
#19 Giants Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
#20 Buccaneers Aldon Smith DE Missouri
#21.Chiefs Phil Taylor NT Baylor
#22.Colts Nate Solder OT Boston
#23 Eagles Jimmy Smith CB Miami
#24 Saints Cam Heyward DE Ohio
#25 Seahawks Jake Locker QB Washington
#26 Ravens Brandon Harris CB Miami
#27 Falcons Juston Houston DE Georgia
#28 Patriots Jeremy Beal DE/OLB Oklahoma
#29 Bears Gabe Carimi OT Winsconsin
#30 Jets Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
#31 Steelers Aaron Williams CB Texas
#32 Packers Brooks Reed DE/OLB Arizona

*****ROUND 2******

Round is underway as you can see Several teams have 2 picks in this round, so where those that did not get a 2nd pick in round #1 can have first call on a teams 2nd rounder, if the draft slows down and its not your 1st choice pick Pr4wn and myself will pick the BPA for that team to move it along, you will then get another team to pick later for e.g. the Ravens who were my 2nd pick or a Broncos/Chargers who have 2 picks.

#33 Patriots Mark Ingram RB Alabama
#34 Bills Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
#35 Bengals Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
#36 Broncos Corey Liuget DT Illinois
#37 Browns Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
#38 Cards Danny Watkins OT Baylor
#39 Titans Austin DT North Carolina
#40 Cowboys Christian Ballard DE Iowa
#41 Skins Torrey Smith WR Maryland
#42 Texans Dontay Moch OLB Nevada
#43 Vikings Christian Ponder, QB Florida State
#44 Lions Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
#45 49rs Rahim Moore, Safety, UCLA
#46 Broncos Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina.
#47 Rams Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
#48 Raiders Marcus Cannon OL TCU
#49 Jags Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada.
#50 Chargers Jonathan Baldwin WR
#51 Bucs Allen Bailey DE Florida
#52 Giants Stefan Wisniewski C Penn State
#53 Colts Jarvis Jenkins DL Clemson
#54 Eagles Orlando Franklin OL Miami
#55 chiefs Titus Young, WR, Boise State
#56 Saints Quarn Sturdivant LB North Carolina
#57 Seahawks Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
#58 Ravens Greg Little WR North Carolina
#59 Falcons Benjamin Ijalana OT/G Villanova
#60 Pats Tandon Doss WR Indiana
#61 Chargers Sam Acho OLB Texas
#62 Bears Terrell McClain DT South Florida
#63 Steelers Kendrick Ellis NT Hampton
#64 Packers

Ok so Grizzly must have left (he's going to Australia for a few weeks) so I'll take his picks on. I know who he wants anyway.

With the 21st pick, the Kansas City Chiefs select Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor University.

With the 22nd pick the Indianapolis Colts select Nate Solder OT Colorado

With the 23rd pick, The Philadelphia Eagles select Jimmy Smith, CB

We are well and truly on a roll...

Cheesehead is up next with the Saints

Is anyone doing an analysis of the draft so far?

Derbyblue wrote:Is anyone doing an analysis of the draft so far?

might be worth waiting until the end of the 1st round, to me so far only 1 surprise really, but all in all straight forward for teams needs.

I guessed most people would be waiting until the end of the round to start the analysis. I was just wondering if anyone was writing one up because I think Graeme Swann's Cat did an analysis "while bored" of the first 8 picks, and there seems to be less discussion about these picks than the earlier ones.

I'll do one if you want

It's up to you, as it's your time it takes up. You probably don't need to do one as it will probably be the same as the one at the end of the round.

What are people expecting the Saint's to do in the first round? I don't think I've heard anything about their draft needs this year except the idea they may go for Ingram.

we could make a first round explanaition thread where people could leave posts on why they made the pick etc???

arizona_tom wrote:we could make a first round explanaition thread where people could leave posts on why they made the pick etc???

But I already gave a nice reason for my pick in this thread

On a more serious note, I wonder if it makes sense to use the board of picks we have at the very beginning of this thread? That way we could give LeedsCowboys (or Pr4wn as he can edit) our analysis of our picks via PM and they can slot it in beside the names on this thread?

Derbyblue wrote:What are people expecting the Saint's to do in the first round? I don't think I've heard anything about their draft needs this year except the idea they may go for Ingram.

I'm struggling to think of what the Saints needs are as part of my prep for the Mock Draft Contest (so as a solution i'm considering having them trade back!)

DE/DT's have been talked about with the Saints, as has Ingram who is still available here.

This is the Team Needs Board of WalterFootball (obviously some have gone from our mock)
1. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
2. Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
3. Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
4. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
5. Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
6. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
7. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
8. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
9. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA
10. Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois

Just having a scan of their Depth Chart on NFL.com, OLB seems an area that in reality they could go for?

crazy_dave23 wrote:
I'm struggling to think of what the Saints needs are as part of my prep for the Mock Draft Contest (so as a solution i'm considering having them trade back!)

DE/DT's have been talked about with the Saints, as has Ingram who is still available here.

This is the Team Needs Board of WalterFootball (obviously some have gone from our mock)
1. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
2. Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
3. Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
4. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
5. Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
6. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
7. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
8. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
9. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA
10. Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois

Just having a scan of their Depth Chart on NFL.com, OLB seems an area that in reality they could go for?

Thanks for the list, couldn't make sense of Drafttek's team needs and I couldn't find one on Sideline Scouting. If Cheesehead is using that list then they'll be taking Heyward, but if he looked elsewhere he may have different ideas.

#9 Cowboys Tyron Smith OT USC
Noises from Valley Ranch seem to indicate that Smith is their guy.

#10 Skins JJ Watt DE Wisconsin
Maybe somewhat of a surprise that the Skins opted against a pass rusher or wide receiver and instead bolstered the D Line. Personally I'd only take a 3-4 NT this high, but It's not as if the Skins are short of needs on defense.

#11.Texans Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
Jason David would probably be an upgrade in that secondary. Could've looked at a pass rusher to fit the 3-4 conversion.

#12 Vikings Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
10/10 pick, love it.

#13 Lions Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College
If the Lions can't protect the franchise, they'll be looking at QBs in a year's time.

#14 Rams Julio Jones WR Alabama
Sammy B needs weapons.

#15 Dolphins Mike Pouncey G Florida
Ingram wont be much use if he's running into opposing DTs all the time like last years Dolphins RBs.

#16 Jaguars Ryan Kerrigan DE Perdue
Seems the kind of player the Jags like. Having players with great work ethic and high character will only get you far though. The talent of Aldon Smith must've been tempting.

#17 Patriots Cam Jordan DE Cal
I still think this should've been Smith, but with another 1st round pick the Patriots can still address the biggest hole in their team.

#18 Chargers Muhammad Wilkerson DE Temple
Hard to pick a specific big hole in this Chargers team, and its far too early to address special teams.

#19 Giants Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
Giants need to get more production out of their LBs in general. Extra pass rush is always nice. Ingram mustve been tempting with Bradshaw and Jacobs out of contract.

#20 Buccaneers Aldon Smith DE Missouri
If he slides this far the Bucs won't waste any time handing in the card.

#21.Chiefs Phil Taylor NT Baylor
Seems a consensus pick

#22.Colts Nate Solder OT Boston
Probably would've looked heavily at Liuget here to help beef up a interior line that got bullied last year.

#23 Eagles Jimmy Smith CB Miami
10/10 pick love it.

Are they looking for a DE or general D line help. Bowers, Wilkerson and Heyward are very different types of DE. If they want a DT for their 4-3 then I think Austin is the best on that list, top 5 talent who has dropped because of character concerns

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:#12 Vikings Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
10/10 pick, love it.
#23 Eagles Jimmy Smith CB Miami
10/10 pick love it.

I wonder why you love these picks so much... But thanks for writing up an analysis gives me something to read

#24 - Saints pick: Cameron Heyward, DE.
It was either him or Adrian Clayborn. I've only used the drafttek site to be honest.

Derbyblue wrote:

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:#12 Vikings Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
10/10 pick, love it.
#23 Eagles Jimmy Smith CB Miami
10/10 pick love it.

I wonder why you love these picks so much... But thanks for writing up an analysis gives me something to read

#12 Vikings Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
Vikings attempt to quell the might of the Packers by drafting a man with a dodge-y knee. Just be glad Childress isn't still in charge or he'd have been running to the podium with a card marked "Brett Favre, QB, Mississippi".
#23 Eagles Jimmy Smith CB Miami
Corner to start opposite of Asante Samuel - Good fit. Should look to strengthen the lines in subsequent rounds.


Less bias

So Pekchecnko is on the clock!

@GSC ONly take a NT at 10, but no nose tackle is worth that pick and we have so many needs, so take who is best player at one of hose many needs.

Pr4wn wrote:So Pekchecnko is on the clock!

Looks like we'll have a fairly slow weekend on this thread then as he said last time he only posts between Monday and Thursday when he's at work.

we might have to goto Auto pick, this is pecks 2nd team anyone to stand up and make a pick to speed up to the end of the 1st round, we could make a start on the 2nd hopefully by Sat Aft

AdZacO wrote:@GSC ONly take a NT at 10, but no nose tackle is worth that pick and we have so many needs, so take who is best player at one of hose many needs.

In what round do you expect the Redskins to be taking a NT then? And who would you want it to be?

Skins could pick up a NT in the 4th a few there will be available

I think we should just wait for Pekchenko, if he says he will be ready Mon-Thurs then the draft is still a couple of weeks away so should be able to get the 1st 2 rounds done at least by then

It will have taken us 10 days to do 1 round, leaving 10 to complete the 2nd

Just wait for him.

Well then... who do we think the Seahawks will take with their "division winning, out of position" draft pick?

Do we see Locker or Mallet come off the board?

Pr4wn wrote:Just wait for him.

Makes sense, he might get a bit annoyed seeing as we gave manning-to-manningham his first round pick.

Derbyblue wrote:

Pr4wn wrote:Just wait for him.

Makes sense, he might get a bit annoyed seeing as we gave manning-to-manningham his first round pick.

We should probably wait... Just focus on doing your mocks for the other contest... speaking of which, is it possible to get that put up as a "sticky" topic?

crazy_dave23 wrote:Well then... who do we think the Seahawks will take with their "division winning, out of position" draft pick?

Do we see Locker or Mallet come off the board?

It depends on when the CBA is agreed, in this mock I expect the option of quarterback has been in contention, but if the CBA is agreed before the draft and Hasselbeck re-signs then they may look at improving the O-line, if you exclude the playoff game against the Saints they did very little running the ball last season. They can then look at taking a quarterback in the second round or leave it for next years draft.

crazy_dave23 wrote:

Derbyblue wrote:

Pr4wn wrote:Just wait for him.

Makes sense, he might get a bit annoyed seeing as we gave manning-to-manningham his first round pick.

We should probably wait... Just focus on doing your mocks for the other contest... speaking of which, is it possible to get that put up as a "sticky" topic?

Done.

Hmm, if hes not around I don't mind making the pick instead.

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Hmm, if hes not around I don't mind making the pick instead.

He's said before that he only posts between Monday and Thursday so we may aswell just wait for tomorrow, if he's not posted by tomorrow night I think we should assign someone else the pick or use a websites rankings of their needs and choose the highest available?

Let's just wait until tomorrow boys.

You're all chomping at the bit!

I thought I'd point out that I have exams on Tuesday and Thursday, but if we get remotely close to the Packers at #32 by 2moro night I'll send someone my preference list so that we can get onto round two (where I presume I will also be the Lions again?)

crazy_dave23 wrote:I thought I'd point out that I have exams on Tuesday and Thursday, but if we get remotely close to the Packers at #32 by 2moro night I'll send someone my preference list so that we can get onto round two (where I presume I will also be the Lions again?)

Good luck with your exams, I hope they go well for you .

Pr4wn I just think we should be prepared incase he doesn't post, it would be good if we could make it to the second round.

Derbyblue wrote:

crazy_dave23 wrote:I thought I'd point out that I have exams on Tuesday and Thursday, but if we get remotely close to the Packers at #32 by 2moro night I'll send someone my preference list so that we can get onto round two (where I presume I will also be the Lions again?)

Good luck with your exams, I hope they go well for you .

Pr4wn I just think we should be prepared incase he doesn't post, it would be good if we could make it to the second round.

Cheers... I'm flat out fed up of learning about interest rates, investments, the stock market, loans, shares, financial accounts and all that economic jazz... I thought leaving university was a sign that the exams would go away... I picked the wrong career!

crazy_dave23 wrote:Cheers... I'm flat out fed up of learning about interest rates, investments, the stock market, loans, shares, financial accounts and all that economic jazz... I thought leaving university was a sign that the exams would go away... I picked the wrong career!

What career is that? (You don't have to answer if you rather wouldnt) It may not be too late for me to switch courses.

I'm an actuary... so I try to predict the future and thus charge (myself it seems) extortionate amounts for car insurance...

all that predicting makes me perfect for mock drafts!

Sounds like a pretty strange job, but at least I know to avoid the offer if it ever comes along. Well we'll have to see if you win the mock draft contest.

Anyway, back on to the topic slightly who do you predict Pekchenko will draft for the Seahawks?

Malett. Best passer in the draft, Seattle has the ideal spot to jump the queue of teams moving up for a QB.

Could be Mallet, could be Locker as he is local... but they may not draft him for that reason so as to stop the home fans pressing for him to play too quickly.

OT/G could be an area. We still have Sherrod and Carimi on the board.

You've both gone quarterback then. I see how Locker being local is a plus point and can help if he becomes the franchise quarterback but surely the decision should still come down to current talent, potential and their attitude to the game, are they prepared to work hard to reach their full potential or are they happy to stay at their current level. Hasselbeck has stated he wants to stay with the Seahawks, and Carroll said re-signing Hasselbeck was the teams top priority.

The Seahawks need big help at corner. Josh Freeman demolished them when they played the Bucs last year.

its getting late Monday afternoon, might need to have someone else make his selection to kick start the draft, still 7 more to get in this round before we crack on to round 2

He won't be too upset, Miami is his main team and we do need to get things moving.

With the 25th pick, the Seattle Seahawks select Jake Locker, QB, Washington.

Leedscowboys and the Ravens are on the clock.

The Ravens move quickly to turn their card into the Commish , and select CB Brandon Harris Miami.

With a fortunate turn of events, it looked like the Ravens were going wideout in the firsr round, but with the availabillity of top notch CB it was too good an opertunity to down a player to bolster our Secondary which was hit by injuries last year.