Day 15 - Men's Singles Final

First topic message reminder :

Nadal v Djokovic.

Here is the thread for the final, can't believe I might miss it due to cricket!

I say Nole for the win in 5 sets, IT'S HIS GODDAMN DESTINY

Roland Garros on Twitter: "Word is that we might get players back on court at 8pm tonight." [That's 1900 BST]

PICTURES HAVE TO BE IN SPOILER TAGS BECAUSE THIS FORUM IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORK (SHY) FRIENDLY.

Having your boss seeing pictures of bouncing busty women on your PC screen could get you in a sticky position.

Are you talking to yourself Jersey? You've repeated yourself endlessly on these threads saying the same trite stuff and contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Also there are people with families and kids around their PC, and naked/sexy stuff makes for silly situations for ffs.

Things are not looking good if you're Spanish. Nadal is behind in the 4th set and Spain is losing to Italy in the footie, will Rafa be allowed to find out the score in the football match? He might not want to know.

Why not? He will get motivated to at least save Spains face.

Jahu wrote:Also there are people with families and kids around their PC, and naked/sexy stuff makes for silly situations for ffs.

Including mine. . He can post minus this stuff, the one-liners are probably more palatable on existing articles. One-liner articles are a different matter.

The Spanish football team has responded so Nadal doesn't need to worry. Will he? Mmmm.

My feeling is that a majority of people love spam fritters

Nadull is a mental clown.


Nole is a mental giant.


Big difference between these 2 players.

jersey wrote:Nadull is a mental clown.


Nole is a mental giant.


Big difference between these 2 players.

Uhmm, Novak still has to hold serve when play resumes; not very easy to do against the Ultimate Hustler that Nadal is. I feel that Novak needs at least another break to feel comfortable in the fourth set.

is it me or is Novak starting to damage the legacies of Federer and Nadal? If Novak wins here, it goes against everything we have come to believe about Rafa on clay, he beat Fed from 2 sets down and saved match points with Federers famous clutch serving. Could win 4 in a row etc etc

Nole is the comeback king. Nadull can only dream of making as many comebacks as King Nole.

CAS wrote:is it me or is Novak starting to damage the legacies of Federer and Nadal? If Novak wins here, it goes against everything we have come to believe about Rafa on clay, he beat Fed from 2 sets down and saved match points with Federers famous clutch serving. Could win 4 in a row etc etc

Nole is the legacy killer.

CAS wrote:is it me or is Novak starting to damage the legacies of Federer and Nadal? If Novak wins here, it goes against everything we have come to believe about Rafa on clay, he beat Fed from 2 sets down and saved match points with Federers famous clutch serving. Could win 4 in a row etc etc

No, not in the long run. There will be a lot of talk about him denting their legacies while he is playing. Media will also add fuel to the fire to make it sound more exciting. All that is going to get forgotten as relatively minor detail as the years pass.

CAS, how can one win in RG from Djoko, change anything about Nadal and clay? Not a fan of Nadal, but Djoko needs to win another 6 GS to be considered anywhere near Rafa.

Besides the historic records which will go to Novak if Nadal loses (and the unfortunate one Nadal gains of losing 4 grand slam finals in a row to Novak), Nadal will also drop to No.3 in the world and it's unlikely that will change (unless briefly if he wins Halle). He's unlikely to pick up points easily with no clay court tournaments again until next April so for his own chances of staying in the top two (and the seeding advantages it gives) he needs to win today or tomorrow.

The unbeatable aspect Jahu, and his mental toughness never losing from 2 sets up since he was 18 against Federer I mean, the physical aspect etc. Novak is tearing his way through everything we thought wasn't possible

Jahu wrote:CAS, how can one win in RG from Djoko, change anything about Nadal and clay? Not a fan of Nadal, but Djoko needs to win another 6 GS to be considered anywhere near Rafa.

Nadal has lost only one match at RG so far. If he loses this, it will be the second.

Nole is destined to be the GOAT. Deal with it.

Maybe CAS, not sure about that. However, the loss would do damage to Nadal. My caveat right now is that PC isnt playing as it should...it was allowed to beome increasingly waterlogged killing Nadals game.

Agree Jahu...the mods/admin have to consider who reads these threads...no just adults. My son is an avid tennis fan and sometimes sees me flicking through these pages.

CAS, I get you, but even if Djoko never loses another 2y, he will start loosing then to younger players, and we start all over again with same questions.

Waiting in the locker room, Nadal can't draw much inspiration from Torres' timidness in front of the net.

Lucius, nicely put. Hard court will be after W and Fed/Djoko/Murray will pickup points more easy then Nadal.

Fed might do another crazy run at the end of the year, Basel/Paris/WTF and Nadal could be derailed till next Spring.

summerblues wrote:

CAS wrote:is it me or is Novak starting to damage the legacies of Federer and Nadal? If Novak wins here, it goes against everything we have come to believe about Rafa on clay, he beat Fed from 2 sets down and saved match points with Federers famous clutch serving. Could win 4 in a row etc etc

No, not in the long run. There will be a lot of talk about him denting their legacies while he is playing. Media will also add fuel to the fire to make it sound more exciting. All that is going to get forgotten as relatively minor detail as the years pass.

This.



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CAS wrote:The unbeatable aspect Jahu, and his mental toughness never losing from 2 sets up since he was 18 against Federer I mean, the physical aspect etc. Novak is tearing his way through everything we thought wasn't possible

Nole makes the impossible to become possible. He is a beast.

jersey, this is more like it and not silly pictures.

Keep it up with TEXT only

Jahu I say this as a Federer fan, I'm finding myself not liking watching Rafa unravel like this. I hope I'm wrong, but who would have thought it was possible to break Federer at 40-15 serving for the match with a first serve going in? Who would have thought Rafa could lose from 2 sets up at Roland Garros final? He is crushing parts of history I didn't want tainted.

Astrologer predicts Nole will win the RG final.

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6807

CAS, agree, even tennis needs some fresh blood & battles, all top dogs will come to an end. The legacy will stay

nadal fans not so confident now lmao.

CAS wrote:is it me or is Novak starting to damage the legacies of Federer and Nadal? If Novak wins here, it goes against everything we have come to believe about Rafa on clay, he beat Fed from 2 sets down and saved match points with Federers famous clutch serving. Could win 4 in a row etc etc

Yes it will affect their legacies - although nothing can take away from what they have already achieved. It is the reason why Federer said that Djokovic could only win if he was "lucky again".

CAS wrote:Jahu I say this as a Federer fan, I'm finding myself not liking watching Rafa unravel like this. I hope I'm wrong, but who would have thought it was possible to break Federer at 40-15 serving for the match with a first serve going in? Who would have thought Rafa could lose from 2 sets up at Roland Garros final? He is crushing parts of history I didn't want tainted.

I am loving it. The smug arrogant 1 dimensional idiot is being beaten. Nadal is a complete turn off for me on the court. He is unsporting and pig ignorant, like his Uncle. Federer is past his prime. What is Nadal's excuse.

COME ON DJOKOVIC.

Damn, F1 is starting.

be careful what you wish for, I was hoping Novak would get back in it to make a match of it but that was a shock

luciusmann wrote:Besides the historic records which will go to Novak if Nadal loses (and the unfortunate one Nadal gains of losing 4 grand slam finals in a row to Novak), Nadal will also drop to No.3 in the world

Even as a Fed fan I would find it somewhat odd that Rafa would be #3 if he were to lose today. Yes, Roger had a number of great results in the smaller tournaments but has consistently come up short in the slams against both Rafa nad Nole over the last 12 months.

Several yellow cards in the Spain vs Italy match. None here?

How about one to Jersey?

summerblues wrote:

CAS wrote:is it me or is Novak starting to damage the legacies of Federer and Nadal? If Novak wins here, it goes against everything we have come to believe about Rafa on clay, he beat Fed from 2 sets down and saved match points with Federers famous clutch serving. Could win 4 in a row etc etc

No, not in the long run. There will be a lot of talk about him denting their legacies while he is playing. Media will also add fuel to the fire to make it sound more exciting. All that is going to get forgotten as relatively minor detail as the years pass.

It will be forgotten in the same way as Laver's minor detail was forgotten.

ps I still believe Nadal is the favorite.

Summer, well Fed won Basel-500, Paris-1000, WTF-1,500, thats more than a GS points.

Amsterdam 500, Dubai 500, IW 1000, Spain 1000 = equal to a 1,5 GS points.

Seifer Almasy wrote: ... I am loving it. The smug arrogant 1 dimensional idiot is being beaten. Nadal is a complete turn off for me on the court. He is unsporting and pig ignorant, like his Uncle. Federer is past his prime. What is Nadal's excuse. ...

You have strong emotional feelings for Nadal?

Hahahaha, a bit of tough one Seifer.

I come in to find Novak is on the comeback trail! COME ON NOVAK

Nore Staat wrote:It will be forgotten in the same way as Laver's minor detail was forgotten.

Oh clearly his feat will not be forgotten. I was talking about legacies and denting there.

Match resumes tomorrow at 1 pm Paris time.

That will be 4am for me.

Jahu wrote:Summer, well Fed won Basel-500, Paris-1000, WTF-1,500, thats more than a GS points.

Amsterdam 500, Dubai 500, IW 1000, Spain 1000 = equal to a 1,5 GS points.

Obviously, the points do add up. I know Roger would be #2 if Rafa were to lose today. I am just saying it is one of those slightly odd cases where the ranking points are at odds with performances at the biggest stages. But yes, the points are what they are, Roger did earn them so in the end nothing wrong with him being #2 either.

Oh well good sleep then to both.

Summer, just ask Wozniacki

Leff wrote:Match resumes tomorrow at 1 pm Paris time.

That will be 4am for me.

I wish it were 4am for me, at least I could watch it. It will be 7am for me and the most I can hope to see before I go to work is one set.

Can't you record it?

Well Canada GP has started so not a wasted evening