Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread Part 3

[Derbyblue]

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Eagles traded Dion Lewis to Cleveland for Emmanuel Acho. Decent backup Lewis, just not as good as Brown.

Basically depth for depth, though I did think we were fine at RB with Richardson, Hardesty and Ogbonnaya but Acho wouldn't have fit the new 3-4 scheme so can't really complain about the deal too much and maybe one of those back ups gets sent off in a trade somewhere during the draft.

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He should get his own TV show on ESPN called Tebow Time.

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It would essentially be him commentating over his various high points in the 2012 season. The episode where he goes over the Jets comeback drive will probably take a dark twist.

[NYJ]

Don't really get why it lasted this long.

Appreciate the sentiment behind trying to trade him, but come on. The only other team that wanted him last year flat out said no. Cut the distraction.

It was inevitable. Everyone knew it it would happen, even Tebow himself, but there's no harm in waiting to see if there was an organisation deluded enough to have him.

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There are some throws that come out needing more heat behind them sure, but I think thats more a mechanical issue with grip than actual arm problems.

Dude doesn't have a cannon, but that throw highlights enough for a NFL QB

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Bleh, should've linked to the time. Fast forward to about 2m 22.

[Derbyblue]

If Baltimore really wanted him they could have made cap room.

He's not a Top 100 player imo

Don't know whether or not they could have made the cap room and I understand they'd obviously rather have a pick than nothing but I still say if this guy was a top 100 player and such a leader they'd have want to keep him around while they lose most their other leaders. Also if I was making a franchise for just next season I could probably come up with a list of 20 receivers pretty easily I would have over Boldin.

Yeah GSC that throw looks like it was from the 19 yard line to roughly Oregon's 25 yard line so 56 yards that would seem fine to me for the occasional long ball.

[Derbyblue]

Possibly Tebow landing spots? Cleveland? Arizona? New England?

I'd be amazed if there is a landing spot anywhere in the NFL, Jacksonville looked like the only one to help boost up attendances but they've said no before, and I'm not just saying this because you mentioned Cleveland as a landing spot.

[NYJ]

Yeah GSC that throw looks like it was from the 19 yard line to roughly Oregon's 25 yard line so 56 yards that would seem fine to me for the occasional long ball.

Yeah, nice throw but he was in 10 yards of space and had time to wipe his brow before stepping into the throw. When does that ever happen in the NFL?

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McNubbles to DeSean iirc.

Effective play action rollout teams quite often

[Colan (niner)]

If Baltimore really wanted him they could have made cap room.

He's not a Top 100 player imo

Don't know whether or not they could have made the cap room and I understand they'd obviously rather have a pick than nothing but I still say if this guy was a top 100 player and such a leader they'd have want to keep him around while they lose most their other leaders. Also if I was making a franchise for just next season I could probably come up with a list of 20 receivers pretty easily I would have over Boldin.

Yeah GSC that throw looks like it was from the 19 yard line to roughly Oregon's 25 yard line so 56 yards that would seem fine to me for the occasional long ball.

I can think of more than 20 receivers I'd rather have if I was starting a franchise! But this list is meant to be based on 2012 performance only and nobody can argue that Boldin wasn't one of the top 2 or 3 players for Ravens when it mattered most. Plus his regular season wasn't awful

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mark schlereth ‏@markschlereth 1h Jets are all class. Get rid of Tebow after the draft when all rosters are full. Bush league move. You've known your plans since last year.

I do kinda agree with this to an extent.

[NYJ]

McNubbles to DeSean iirc.

Effective play action rollout teams quite often

I still think there would be a LB running for your head. On that play there was literally no one running towards him. I just don't see it with Barkley.

[NYJ]

mark schlereth ‏@markschlereth 1h Jets are all class. Get rid of Tebow after the draft when all rosters are full. Bush league move. You've known your plans since last year.

I do kinda agree with this to an extent.

So if there was the slightest chance of a trade happening, we should have just ignored that and did what was best for Tebow because he's a nice guy? No way.

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There wasn't the slightest chance of a trade happening. 2 teams wanted him for next to nothing coming off a playoff win.

The other said no already. Now hes coming off a season on the bench.

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McNubbles to DeSean iirc.

Effective play action rollout teams quite often

I still think there would be a LB running for your head. On that play there was literally no one running towards him. I just don't see it with Barkley.

Texans do it quite a bit and have success with it.

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As for who would actually want him.

He played for Florida, so automatically Belichick is interested.

Mike McCoy might take him back in SD.

[NYJ]

There wasn't the slightest chance of a trade happening. 2 teams wanted him for next to nothing coming off a playoff win.

The other said no already. Now hes coming off a season on the bench.

Teams cannot afford to make decisions with players interests at heart. This is the NFL. It's a cut throat business.

[NYJ]

McNubbles to DeSean iirc.

Effective play action rollout teams quite often

I still think there would be a LB running for your head. On that play there was literally no one running towards him. I just don't see it with Barkley.

Texans do it quite a bit and have success with it.

Every time I watched the Texans there was a Play Action Bootleg! I just don't think Barkley can be successful in the NFL with his skillset.

[Derbyblue]

If Baltimore really wanted him they could have made cap room.

He's not a Top 100 player imo

Don't know whether or not they could have made the cap room and I understand they'd obviously rather have a pick than nothing but I still say if this guy was a top 100 player and such a leader they'd have want to keep him around while they lose most their other leaders. Also if I was making a franchise for just next season I could probably come up with a list of 20 receivers pretty easily I would have over Boldin.

Yeah GSC that throw looks like it was from the 19 yard line to roughly Oregon's 25 yard line so 56 yards that would seem fine to me for the occasional long ball.

I can think of more than 20 receivers I'd rather have if I was starting a franchise! But this list is meant to be based on 2012 performance only and nobody can argue that Boldin wasn't one of the top 2 or 3 players for Ravens when it mattered most. Plus his regular season wasn't awful

But is it purely based on the last season? Because Manning made the last list when he had spent the whole season injured and also then it would surely be the NFL top 100 of 2012, I view it as a prediction of how they'll rank in the next season providing they stay healthy.

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I think if you clean up his mechanics and decision making a bit, surround him with players and have a smart OC hes viable. Not sure he'll ever go beyond backup status though.

Thought the Saints wouldve been a good spot.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Jets were correct to hold on to him until after the draft. You just never know what they could have gotten for him, even if only a late Round pick. It was unlikely they would get anything and they didn't, so they cut him a couple of days later. No Harm done.

He still has ages to sign with another team for next season.

Happens with lots of players, not sure why there seems to be such an issue because its Tebow.

[Number-25]

Jets were damned if they did and damned if they didn't on this issue of not releasing Tebow before the draft. The media are so predictable - they have the teams they like and those they like to whip . The Jets are one of the whipping boys and would have been called out by the media for not trying to trade him before or during draft weekend had they not done so. Schlereth may be an ex-Redskin but he's now just another talking head that has to much to say and little of it original

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Bryant McKinnie visiting the Dolphins today. Decent fallback.

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The Montreal Alouettes have expressed interest in Tebow. So theres something

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I do feel sorry for Tebow. Its not his fault that he carries the media storm he does everywhere thats likely going to cost him a NFL job. Nor the Jets being one of the more poorly run franchises last season, and I don't blame him for picking them over the Jags, who more or less outright told him he was there to sell tickets.

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Mike Wallace sticking to the company line there.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Oh dear

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Former 1st round pick and current NFL bust Jerry Hughes was traded to the Bills for Kelvin Sheppard

[Thomond]

I imagine he is close to the minority I see he has promptly deleted it but damage done, can you get fined for something like that?

Team mates will know if there is a gay guy on their team, that's for sure. It was a shame that the media tried to hound the likes of Kerry Rhodes for something like that.

[Bull]

I am fearing that the Bears may go for Tebow as a back up

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Why?

[Bull]

Cause i dont want him and the media circus lol

[Derbyblue]

Cause i dont want him and the media circus lol

But why do you think Chicago take him?

[Bull]

because i think that Trestman might want him and there have been rumors of a back up QB lol

[Derbyblue]

because i think that Trestman might want him and there have been rumors of a back up QB lol

I can see why people say you need a back up QB but would have thought you could have found better back ups who were UDFA than Tebow.

[Derbyblue]

Apparently it will be a miracle if the Steelers Linebacker Sean Spence ever plays football again after tearing his ACL, LCL and dislocating his knee last preseason. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/29/steelers-spence-needs-miraculous-recovery-to-play-again/

It sounds like RGIII is expecting to be fit enough to play in week 1.

Bull this is for you - http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/29/report-bears-wont-be-suitors-for-tim-tebow/

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Jaguars former first-round pick WR Justin Blackmon is being suspended four games by the NFL, per league sources. More on NFL Live now.

lol Jags 1st round picks

[Guest]

It's funny you should post that illy as I was just about to ask who is decent from the world of NFL to follow on Twitter. I'm a wee bit late jumping on the band wagon and only just signed up

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

You wanna follow some of the Raiders beat guys Gazzy.

I follow, Breer, Darlington, Rapoport, Schefter and Eisen too. Eisen is so funny

[Derbyblue]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Jaguars former first-round pick WR Justin Blackmon is being suspended four games by the NFL, per league sources. More on NFL Live now.

lol Jags 1st round picks

Any idea what he did?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Jaguars former first-round pick WR Justin Blackmon is being suspended four games by the NFL, per league sources. More on NFL Live now.

lol Jags 1st round picks

Any idea what he did?

Violated Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.

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A drug named not catching passes from Blaine Gabbert

[Derbyblue]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Jaguars former first-round pick WR Justin Blackmon is being suspended four games by the NFL, per league sources. More on NFL Live now.

lol Jags 1st round picks

Any idea what he did?

Violated Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.

Thought it seemed like the right sort of length for that, not exactly what the franchise needed...

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The Browns signed Paul Krugers brother. Wonder who's springing for pizza in Cleveland.

Also his other brother got drafted by the Eagles in the 7th

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

In irrelevant news the Pats have released Brian Waters.

[cherriesfna]

He's on The adderall dude

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Oh lawd, some guy said he signed with the Eagles in round 6 rather than being drafted.

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Good to see Chip Kelly can bend the rules in the Pros just as well as in the College ranks.

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People would rather play for Chip than be drafted.

Fantastic

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People would rather play for Chip than be drafted.

Fantastic

I can imagine the conversation now:

"Look kid, we really want you to play for us."
"Ok, so draft me."
"No, we don't think you're worth a draft pick. But we reaaaaaallllly want you. No, really."

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