Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread Part 3

by **Derbyblue** Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

GSC wrote:Eagles traded Dion Lewis to Cleveland for Emmanuel Acho. Decent backup Lewis, just not as good as Brown.

Basically depth for depth, though I did think we were fine at RB with Richardson, Hardesty and Ogbonnaya but Acho wouldn't have fit the new 3-4 scheme so can't really complain about the deal too much and maybe one of those back ups gets sent off in a trade somewhere during the draft.

by twelve283 Mon May 06, 2013 5:30 pm

GSC wrote:I'm sure you can lol

Why did I just think you were a Raiders fan? Headscratch

by GSC Mon May 06, 2013 5:30 pm

I'm not entirely sure

by Colan (niner) Mon May 06, 2013 6:33 pm

big difference between Raiders and Eagles fans. Both their sides suck but only one set of fans realise it

by GSC Mon May 06, 2013 6:39 pm

You could say the same about Seahawks and 49er fans.

The 49ers fans have spellcheck Whistle

by **Derbyblue** Mon May 06, 2013 6:51 pm

While you're all talking about ranking O-lines, here's how The Pulling Linemen guys ranked them after 2012: http://www.pullinglinemen.com/2013/01/olr-2012-ranking-nfls-o-lines.html

GSC wrote:You could say the same about Seahawks and 49er fans.

The 49ers fans have spellcheck

You may have said it before but still amusing and I won't lie was I waiting for you to say this again.

While we're talking about O-lines I know the Browns one requires a bit of work at the guard position but we're set at LT, C and RT for the next 10+ years then I would put Pinkston and Greco in at the guard positions.

by GSC Mon May 06, 2013 6:52 pm

by GSC Mon May 06, 2013 6:55 pm

Could probably go for 49ers fans have been diehards for 1 year longer than Seahawks fans I guess.

by Colan (niner) Mon May 06, 2013 7:37 pm

Woh, who said I was having a dig at the Eagles there. And I'm a circa 2007/08 fan so saw the bad teams!

by GSC Mon May 06, 2013 7:56 pm

Woh, who said I wasn't implying Cherries became a fan in 2009

by GSC Wed May 08, 2013 8:57 am

Titus Young was arrested on sunday for DUI.

Then arrested again for trying to steal his car out of impound the same sunday.

Yes, Titus Young is that much of a dumbass

by **Pr4wn** Wed May 08, 2013 8:19 pm

Ronde Barber has decided to retire Sad

by Colan (niner) Wed May 08, 2013 8:24 pm

Breaking News* Kevin Cadle tweeted me

by **Derbyblue** Wed May 08, 2013 8:49 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Ronde Barber has decided to retire

Surely better than seeing him stood on the sideline all game?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed May 08, 2013 8:51 pm

Colan (niner) wrote:Breaking News* Kevin Cadle tweeted me

If it'd been Carlson we'd have been impressed Wink

by Colan (niner) Wed May 08, 2013 8:54 pm

Olly wrote:
Colan (niner) wrote:Breaking News* Kevin Cadle tweeted me

If it'd been Carlson we'd have been impressed

I've spoken to him before too Wink

But Kevin is a cult hero to me, and now we're chatting and he said he could maybe appear on the podcast. I also think he is Jay-Z's dad, the resemblance is uncanny

by cherriesfna Wed May 08, 2013 9:03 pm

Please can u give me a proper shout out if he does, u owe that to me after the rienbold incident

by Colan (niner) Wed May 08, 2013 9:58 pm

cherriesfna wrote:Please can u give me a proper shout out if he does, u owe that to me after the rienbold incident

I'm not even sure he will come on. But if he does you can be assured it will not be a proper shout out. I may even have him interpret you as a Rams fan just for fun. Nah 49ers again I think

by GSC Wed May 08, 2013 10:01 pm

Carlson agreed with my feelings on Matt barkley a few months back on twitter,

kinda foreshadowed that.

by GSC Wed May 08, 2013 10:37 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/22217956/nfl-team-officials-fear-federal-probe-could-drain-haslam-undermine-browns

by **Derbyblue** Wed May 08, 2013 10:48 pm

GSC wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/22217956/nfl-team-officials-fear-federal-probe-could-drain-haslam-undermine-browns

The key factor in whether he keeps the Browns is money, does he have enough stockpiled away from Pilot Flying J? Do Pilot Flying J have enough to cover the lawsuits? Are the Browns as a company capable of making money? Will Pilot Flying J be able to keep making money after this scandal? I have the answer to none of these but would with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever guess at yes to the first 3 and a maybe to the final one.

by GSC Wed May 08, 2013 11:30 pm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000167664/article/carolina-panthers-going-nowhere-with-ron-rivera-cam-newton

by Colan (niner) Thu May 09, 2013 11:12 am

Jadeveon Clowney jersey arrived today!

http://twitter.yfrog.com/gyhpqhnj

by **Derbyblue** Thu May 09, 2013 2:32 pm

Now that Cribbs is healthy he's getting some interest, apparently Oakland offered him a contract, visited Jets yesterday and visiting Giants today. Will be sad to see him play against Cleveland but wish him the best, someone may even be willing to give him a shot at WR he was actually pretty good in 2011 but for some reason the idea of actually passing him the ball only llasted for a year.

by NYJ Thu May 09, 2013 2:34 pm

I would welcome Cribbs to the Jets as a kick returner. We could finally get rid of Joe "Fumble" McKnight.

by **Derbyblue** Thu May 09, 2013 2:45 pm

NYJ wrote:I would welcome Cribbs to the Jets as a kick returner. We could finally get rid of Joe "Fumble" McKnight.

Does Kerley return kicks too? TBH I would have liked Cribbs to stay he seemed like he very genuinely wanted to stay, said he would take a much lower base salary as long as the contract had performance based bonuses that would allow him to earn a bit extra, plus we didn't see Travis Benjamin in too many return situations though as the only one I remember was for a TD I probably shouldn't complain and he's probably now #4 on the depth chart at WR so will be wanting to make an impact.

by NYJ Thu May 09, 2013 2:56 pm

Derbyblue wrote:
NYJ wrote:I would welcome Cribbs to the Jets as a kick returner. We could finally get rid of Joe "Fumble" McKnight.
Does Kerley return kicks too? TBH I would have liked Cribbs to stay he seemed like he very genuinely wanted to stay, said he would take a much lower base salary as long as the contract had performance based bonuses that would allow him to earn a bit extra, plus we didn't see Travis Benjamin in too many return situations though as the only one I remember was for a TD I probably shouldn't complain and he's probably now #4 on the depth chart at WR so will be wanting to make an impact.

Kerley returns punts. He is our best receiver so I'd rather he didn't return kicks too. I really don't see why McKnight is still on the roster. Clyde Gates, WR4, has experience of returning.

by Colan (niner) Thu May 09, 2013 3:13 pm

neil reynolds, kevin cadle and Reinebold will all be appearing on podcast at same time. Will fill my sky void

by **Derbyblue** Thu May 09, 2013 3:47 pm

NYJ wrote:
Derbyblue wrote:
NYJ wrote:I would welcome Cribbs to the Jets as a kick returner. We could finally get rid of Joe "Fumble" McKnight.
Does Kerley return kicks too? TBH I would have liked Cribbs to stay he seemed like he very genuinely wanted to stay, said he would take a much lower base salary as long as the contract had performance based bonuses that would allow him to earn a bit extra, plus we didn't see Travis Benjamin in too many return situations though as the only one I remember was for a TD I probably shouldn't complain and he's probably now #4 on the depth chart at WR so will be wanting to make an impact.

Kerley returns punts. He is our best receiver so I'd rather he didn't return kicks too. I really don't see why McKnight is still on the roster. Clyde Gates, WR4, has experience of returning.

Yeah I like what I've seen of Kerley, just thought I remembered him returning kicks so thought I'd check. I think Cribbs would be a pretty good addition to most teams if he isn't costing too much.

Indianapolis have traded A.Q. Shipley to Baltimore for a conditional pick in the next draft.

Ronde may have returned to Tampa for another year if he thought he was starting, but I think they made the right choice to upgrade now than to wait the yeark plus had he decided to retire at the same point they'd have missed out on drafting a CB.

by **Derbyblue** Thu May 09, 2013 3:52 pm

Nick Fairley seems to think the Lions can get to the Super Bowl. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/09/nick-fairley-thinks-the-lions-are-going-to-the-super-bowl/

by GSC Thu May 09, 2013 3:53 pm

Nick's Fairley Suh.

I'll get my coat...

by mikeygnfl Thu May 09, 2013 10:47 pm

News from around the league...

1) It's official! Matt Barkley is the new Tom Brady:-
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000168301/article/matt-barkley-is-a-perfect-fit-for-philadelphia-eagles-new-system

2) So the 49ers have agreed a deal with Levi's for the naming rights of their new stadium in Santa Clara:-
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000167936/article/levis-stadium-to-be-san-francisco-49ers-new-home

I wonder if they are thinking of having a blue 'Boise State' style pitch?

3) Manit Te'o 'girlfriend' makes the Maxim Top 100. She came in at 69:-

http://www.maxim.com/hot100/2013

by GSC Thu May 09, 2013 11:03 pm

Sweet

by GSC Fri May 10, 2013 8:14 am

Might be the worst 10 to date on the top 100

by **Derbyblue** Fri May 10, 2013 2:36 pm

Happy to see Richardson make it but I find it a bit strange a player put Richardson in their top 20.

Snyder has said the Redskins will never change their team name. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2013/05/09/washington-redskins-daniel-snyder/2148127/

by **Derbyblue** Fri May 10, 2013 2:41 pm

7 Rookies in the top 100, we know Kuechly and Richardson who do you think are the other 5?

I'm guessing at Luck, RGIII, Wilson, Morris, Martin.

by Colan (niner) Fri May 10, 2013 2:42 pm

only Staley, Kuechly and Flowers belong 71-80 imo.

by cherriesfna Fri May 10, 2013 2:42 pm

Derbyblue wrote:7 Rookies in the top 100, we know Kuechly and Richardson who do you think are the other 5?

I'm guessing at Luck, RGIII, Wilson, Morris, Martin.

cant agrue with that, just anooyed at sum of the player who got there tho, seriouslt antonio gates, he aint dine nthing for like 3 years.

by **Pr4wn** Fri May 10, 2013 6:27 pm

If any of you have a spare half an hour, give this a watch. My favourite player of all time bows out. Tough, successful and humble, Ronde Barber was a true pro and he'll be sorely missed by the Bucs.

http://www.buccaneers.com/multimedia/videos/DB-Ronde-Barber-Retirement-Press-Conference/569237db-990c-4fa9-9cfa-24d1f0bbe0a6

by **Derbyblue** Sat May 11, 2013 4:14 pm

cherriesfna wrote:
Derbyblue wrote:7 Rookies in the top 100, we know Kuechly and Richardson who do you think are the other 5?

I'm guessing at Luck, RGIII, Wilson, Morris, Martin.

cant agrue with that, just anooyed at sum of the player who got there tho, seriouslt antonio gates, he aint dine nthing for like 3 years.

Antonio Gates doesn't like people like you: “Apparently they don’t watch football,” Gates said. “I understand everyone’s opinion. Some people are stat guys, some people are into who catches the touchdowns, who has 100-something catches. A lot of people are not interested into what the game plan is about, what guys demand the game plan every single week, week in and week out, [and] what guys demand double teams. I can go on down the list. It is funny to me because it is a joke, in a sense, so it is kind of funny. It is a voice of an opinion. I go out and do what I can do and try to help us win football games. It is always frustrating to see you placed so low. At the same time, it gives me a little chip on my shoulder to come back next year and prove I am one of the better tight ends in the league.”

by GSC Sat May 11, 2013 4:16 pm

Antonio Gates is full of crap. Hes been injured and not very productive for a few years now

by **Derbyblue** Sat May 11, 2013 4:26 pm

GSC wrote:Antonio Gates is full of crap. Hes been injured and not very productive for a few years now

I agree I wouldn't have him in my top 20 so don't know which players chose to put him in their's.

by Colan (niner) Sat May 11, 2013 4:35 pm

Derbyblue wrote:
cherriesfna wrote:
Derbyblue wrote:7 Rookies in the top 100, we know Kuechly and Richardson who do you think are the other 5?

I'm guessing at Luck, RGIII, Wilson, Morris, Martin.

cant agrue with that, just anooyed at sum of the player who got there tho, seriouslt antonio gates, he aint dine nthing for like 3 years.
Antonio Gates doesn't like people like you: “Apparently they don’t watch football,” Gates said. “I understand everyone’s opinion. Some people are stat guys, some people are into who catches the touchdowns, who has 100-something catches. A lot of people are not interested into what the game plan is about, what guys demand the game plan every single week, week in and week out, [and] what guys demand double teams. I can go on down the list. It is funny to me because it is a joke, in a sense, so it is kind of funny. It is a voice of an opinion. I go out and do what I can do and try to help us win football games. It is always frustrating to see you placed so low. At the same time, it gives me a little chip on my shoulder to come back next year and prove I am one of the better tight ends in the league.”

I agree with what he said actually but don't think it applies to him, thats the funny part! I think most on here are stats men like the majority of people but its true that is shortsighted most of the time.

by GSC Sat May 11, 2013 4:55 pm

The 'I watch x play' is a worse argument than stats tbf.

by Colan (niner) Sat May 11, 2013 5:03 pm

I agree but people do ignore the 'little things' like blocking, if they play call etc and how important they are to the teams success. There are tons of players who talent and stat wise aren't top 100. But a lot of guys still top 100 in terms of importance overall.

Its like from a 49ers perspective, how many neutrals would realise that Tarrel Brown is our best corner? And then Ahmad Brooks could start for any team but we know he won't be top 100. Why, because unfortunately he is good in coverage and elite against the run but is only average when it comes to sack stats. Well rounded means nothing, people look for the flashy

by GSC Sat May 11, 2013 5:07 pm

Antonio Gates has never blocked in his life

by Colan (niner) Sat May 11, 2013 5:10 pm

GSC wrote:Antonio Gates has never blocked in his life

That's why I said it was funny that although I agree generally with what he said, it doesn't actually apply to him

by GSC Sun May 12, 2013 7:11 pm

Titus Young has been arrested for the 3rd time in a week.

He might be the dumbest man alive

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon May 13, 2013 10:13 pm

Pats released Brandon Deaderick.

Took a lot of snaps last year, somewhat of a surprise

by BamBam Mon May 13, 2013 10:15 pm

GSC wrote:Titus Young has been arrested for the 3rd time in a week.

He might be the dumbest man alive

He needs psychiatric help, not even trying to be funny, there just has to be something wrong there

by GSC Tue May 14, 2013 10:10 am

Matthew Barkley ‏@MattBarkley 11h
I prefer Batt Markley RT @PhillyFanpage: @MattBarkley Can you change your name to Mark Battley?

Godammit hes making me kinda like him Sad

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