The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the Tommy Bowe photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?



Previous pub: https://www.606v2.com/t11223p1000-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub#366751

PenfroPete wrote:Bore Da pawb - please



Really enjoyed myself at Dave Parade. Good to spend some time chatting with Lucky as really didn't get much chance at the BIG meet for the HEC Final. Was nice to see the 'Big Lump' too. I'd forgotten how diffucult it is, sometimes, to see all the action from a terrace (as opposed to pitch side at a parks ground that the Sarries play on), good atmosphere though

Still miss it when the opposition go into touch though don't you Penfro

prop_lyd wrote: Still miss it when the opposition go into touch though don't you Penfro

How p!ssed off are you about tomorrow night Prop. I'm really disappointed - you have email by the way

I know T getting fricking old now,


Mick I was an AQA as well, far from an easy course. Fricking Spherical Trigonometry coming out of my hole. Not easy

Spherical Trigononmetry? Is that something to do with circles or triangles or what?!

PenfroPete wrote:

prop_lyd wrote: Still miss it when the opposition go into touch though don't you Penfro

How p!ssed off are you about tomorrow night Prop. I'm really disappointed - you have email by the way

I wouldn't even ask me how annoyed I am penfro!! At least it means my back has a trial before a match to check it will stay in one piece.

Hopefully the game against Old Penarthians will go ahead next week

Thomond wrote:Spherical Trigononmetry? Is that something to do with circles or triangles or what?!

Circular triangles T

That would have been my second guess. Still sounds complicated.

PenfroPete wrote:Hopefully the game against Old Penarthians will go ahead next week

It better do or I think we could lose even more players!!

"Right lads, time to move onto spherical trig, this is rocket science"


Thats how it was introduced to us when we started it

MrsP, I don’t take it as dissing!

The only “problem” with the course is that that it’s got too much capacity I suppose. They’ve room for anyone who wants to do it, which means people will go for it as a last resort as they know they can get in. getting in and staying in are different stories. The maths was a killer. Normal people maths I can deal with, applied maths is fine, but laplace transforms and fourie series just zoomed over my head! I can’t even remember what they were, I just remember it was tough going. Thermodynamics (to the level we studied it) was surprisingly easy.

Just sounds like a bad idea to have folks embark on a course they had no chance of coping with. Can't be economically sensible that. Might be better to offer some lower sort of qualification that would suit those 70% instead and let the smart ones, like you, plough on with the heavy stuff?

I definitely agree about it not being economically sensible.

Sooo,

I hear you've moved to the swanky part of town eh?

(Is this D14? Half way between D24 and D4?)

It’s D*(D24/D4).
That’s the best way I can reconcile things!

Loving the place, the apartment is really nice and the area is class, it’s close to everything, quiet, safe and it looks nice. I can’t ask for more really!

How's all in the P-household? Any more provincial sprint champs since the last time we spoke?

Thomond wrote:Spherical Trigononmetry? Is that something to do with circles or triangles or what?!

Spherical trigonometry is oxymoronic. Trigonometry is exclusively concerned with two dimensions. So there must be another branch of mathematics that deals with it, but sure as hell it ain't trig.

We are all good thanks. Well MasterP has a bit of a hamsting pull playing rugby which is annoying since he has 4 big athletics competitions coming up.

His LJ seems to be his best event at the moment.

The Junior Squad from his club are heading over to the UK finals of a competition in early September so very excited about that!

Portnoy wrote:

Thomond wrote:Spherical Trigononmetry? Is that something to do with circles or triangles or what?!

Spherical trigonometry is oxymoronic. Trigonometry is exclusively concerned with two dimensions. So there must be another branch of mathematics that deals with it, but sure as hell it ain't trig.

Right Portnoys I didn't do it in college for a year, your right it doesn't exist

Portnoy wrote: [Spherical trigonometry is oxymoronic. Trigonometry is exclusively concerned with two dimensions. So there must be another branch of mathematics that deals with it, but sure as hell it ain't trig.

For your enlightenment - LINK or perhaps LINK or even LINK

PenfroPete wrote:

Portnoy wrote: [Spherical trigonometry is oxymoronic. Trigonometry is exclusively concerned with two dimensions. So there must be another branch of mathematics that deals with it, but sure as hell it ain't trig.

For your enlightenment - LINK or perhaps LINK or even LINK

Penfro that second link is basically my second year in college

Hughie,

Must have been really tricky studying stuff that doesn't even exist eh? But I suppose that's us Irish for you!

just had a look at those links and is all I can say.

Allthough I did shudder at reading about cosine and sine rules. I vaguely remember them from school (altho obviously not used in the same context), and I wish I didn't!

Only know 2 types of Trig - one is off Fools N Horses and the other is our 'veteran' #8 / 2nd Row

PenfroPete wrote:

Portnoy wrote: [Spherical trigonometry is oxymoronic. Trigonometry is exclusively concerned with two dimensions. So there must be another branch of mathematics that deals with it, but sure as hell it ain't trig.

For your enlightenment - LINK or perhaps LINK or even LINK

Sorry to argue once again, but trigonometry is planar. Curvilinear geometry is a different facet of maths. Probably more associated with the calculus.

Trigonometry does what it says on the tin: exploring the relationship between three points.

poissonrouge wrote:Hughie,

Must have been really tricky studying stuff that doesn't even exist eh? But I suppose that's us Irish for you!

Yeah tough going MrsP, had to make up the entire thing, I even wrote all those notes thats penfro posted

poissonrouge wrote:Hughie,

Must have been really tricky studying stuff that doesn't even exist eh?

That's theology, isn't it?

Portnoy wrote:

PenfroPete wrote:

Portnoy wrote: [Spherical trigonometry is oxymoronic. Trigonometry is exclusively concerned with two dimensions. So there must be another branch of mathematics that deals with it, but sure as hell it ain't trig.

For your enlightenment - LINK or perhaps LINK or even LINK

Sorry to argue once again, but trigonometry is planar. Curvilinear geometry is a different facet of maths. Probably more associated with the calculus.

Trigonometry does what it says on the tin: exploring the relationship between three points.

And that's what spherical trig does, three points with great circles as sides inside a sphere with angles adding up to more than 180 degrees

Portnoy wrote:Trigonometry does what it says on the tin: exploring the relationship between three points.

But where on the 'tin' does it say that they must be in the same plane, or am I missing something?

Hughie, it’s used for navigation and the like yeah?

MrsP, from what i've heard he can beat them on one leg!

The so-called spherical trig is a bit of a misnomer. All of the referenced formuae exclude the magic number pi. (not to mention e and i).

To liken Trig and spherical trig is like finding the similarities between RU and cricket or godammit GAA football. i.e. not much.

Portnoy did you even read the links Penfro provided?

Portnoy,there are a lot of similarites between GAA and rugby. It's physical and both games play with 15 men for example.

Bikkies,

I'll suggest hopping over the hurdles this afternoon. Just for practise like. Since it was your idea it'll work out just fine.

Perhaps your gripe is not with Hughie but with the taxonomy of scientific disciplines.

Portnoy wrote:The so-called spherical trig is a bit of a misnomer. All of the referenced formuae exclude the magic number pi. (not to mention e and i).

To liken Trig and spherical trig is like finding the similarities between RU and cricket or godammit GAA football. i.e. not much.

Didn't see the hurling at the weekend then?

I like to keep things simple. Trigonometry is to do with angles. Spherical Trig is to do with angles on a globe. That'll do me

(btw, has anyone seen my barge-pole? )

rugbydreamer wrote:Portnoy did you even read the links Penfro provided?

Yes of course I did. And I did notice that many of them were calculus rather than trig functions.

so having read them, you're still doubting that Spherical Trig exists? Really?

Mickado wrote:Hughie, it’s used for navigation and the like yeah?

MrsP, from what i've heard he can beat them on one leg!

Pretty much Mick, as straight lines don't actually exist on a sphere your normal trig can't be used, therefore spherical trig is



But to confuse things even more. The earth isn't even a sphere, its an oblate spheroid

So, if I've got this correct. The professional people call this Spherical Trigonometry - have I got this right ?

You people are all drones.

Portnoys is just shoving a mirror up to our massive faces and forcing us to ask questions of ourselves. And spherical trigonometry.
Give the guy a break.

We should talk about maths more often in here. I'm not out of my depth at all.

rugbydreamer wrote:so having read them, you're still doubting that Spherical Trig exists? Really?

The spherical trig is a branch of mathematics which is important when calculating stuff like the greater circle etc,

But to be honest when reflecting on my posts over the last month or so, I'd have to ask if Portnoy's slates are just loose or the roof's off.

I must sign off for a week or so. (mainly because I've started referring to myself in the third person (which can't be good)).

Bit of fun for the wall - https://www.606v2.com/t11665-yeah-baby-austin-powers-4-is-go

Looking forward to some good suggestions!

Anyway, as fun as that was I forgot about this



The Ireland team to play France has been named. Ireland captain Brian O'Driscoll has returned to the starting line up and will lead the team out on Saturday for the Guinness Summer Series.
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In what is a busy week for the Ireland squad, two Irish teams will play games in the space of three days. An Ireland Select XV will take on Connacht on Thursday evening in Donnybrook Stadium followed by Ireland playing France in the Aviva Stadium on Saturday.
In the Guinness Summer Series international against France, the test match team will take the field with 10 changes to the run on side from the team that played the previous week.
There are six changes in the backline, one of which is positional. Felix Jones will make his first start for Ireland at full back and Keith Earls moves from the centre to left wing.
With Earls moving into the back three, Gordon D'Arcy comes into the midfield alongside Captain Brian O'Driscoll, who will both be making their debuts for the season. Jonathan Sexton will start at No.10 and he will be partnered at half back by Tomas O'Leary.
Paul O'Connell and Jamie Heaslip come into the starting team after being second half replacements last weekend and Sean O'Brien moves to No.6.
Ireland Team & Replacements (v France, Aviva Stadium, Dublin, Saturday, August 20th, kick-off 5.00pm local):
15 - Felix Jones (Shannon/ Munster)

14 - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)

13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster) Captain

12 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)

11 - Keith Earls (Thomond/Munster)

10 - Jonathan Sexton (St.Mary's College/Leinster)
9 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/Munster)

1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)

2 - Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)

3 - Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)

4 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster)

5 - Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)

6 - Sean O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster)

7 - David Wallace (Garryowen/Munster)

8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster)
Replacements:

16 - Jerry Flannery (Shannon/ Munster)

17 - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster)

18 - Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/Connacht)

19 - Stephen Ferris (Dungannon/Ulster)

20 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster)

21 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)

22 - Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/ Leinster)
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In the Connacht game, several players who were involved in the test match against France last week get another chance to play in Donnybrook tomorrow evening.
Leo Cullen will captain the side and will be partnered in the second row by Mick O'Driscoll, with Tony Buckley, Sean Cronin, John Hayes completing the front five. Shane Jennings will have his first outing of August after returning from a broken arm alongside Kevin McLaughlin and Denis Leamy in the back row.
Isaac Boss and Paddy Wallace will make up the half back partnership with Fergus McFadden, Johne Murphy and Geordan Murphy in the back three.
Ireland Select XV Team & Replacements (v Connacht, Donnybrook Stadium, Dublin, Thursday, August 18th, kick-off 6.30pm local):
15 - Geordan Murphy (Leicester)

14 - Johne Murphy (Young Munster/Munster)

13 - Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)

12 - Ian Keatley (Munster)

11 - Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)

10 - Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/Ulster)

9 - Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster)
1 - Tony Buckley (Sale)

2 - Sean Cronin (Leinster)

3 - John Hayes (Bruff/Munster)

4 - Mick O'Driscoll (Cork Constitution/Munster)

5 - Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster)

6 - Kevin McLaughlin (St.Mary's College/Leinster)

7 - Shane Jennings (St.Mary's College/Leinster)

8 - Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution/Leinster)
Replacements:

16 - Damien Varley (Garryowen/Munster)

17 - Marcus Horan (Shannon/Munster)

18 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)

19 - Niall Ronan (Shannon/Munster)

20 - Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)

21 - Denis Hurley (Cork Constitution/Munster)

22 - Ian Whitten (Ballymena/Ulster)

How do friends and foes.

ain't been in much lately. I suspect it will remain that way until September.

Decent enough. would rather see McFadden in and around the french squad... if he wasn't then I would have prefered to see him at 10 for Connacht to see what he can do there.

Unfortunately I have a feeling Wallace will get his place on that plane instead of him now

Now now Hughie!

First studying non existent Mathematics and then wanting to discuss RUGBY in the

"The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub"



You'll be breaking the Laws of Physics next!

Twinkletoes,

After Saturday do you still fear Paddy Wallace in green?

Paddy Wallace could score an exceptional individual try from inside his own half in dead time against NZ in the final and convert it and people would still have a problem with him. I am sick, sore and tired of trying to defend him especially when some of the same people advocate taking Hayes to the world cup. He must be applying for his bus pass soon no?

mickyt wrote:Unfortunately I have a feeling Wallace will get his place on that plane instead of him now

McFadden never had a place on the plane. He was given a shot against Scotland to show what he can do and despite defending admirably, he didn't show that he could offer anything beyond what Wallace or any of the other established players can.

Wallace has more experience and has thus far played better than McFadden in an Ireland shirt so I can't understand why people are still championing McFadden and bashing Wallace.