The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

by Guest Wed 12 Oct 2011, 8:38 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the collage of pub regulars. We've got the big group pic from the HEC final in Cardiff, plus insets of ll those who couldn't make it

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?

Ale

Hen dafarn/Old pub: https://www.606v2.com/t15642p1000-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub#576037

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 3:34 pm

MBTGOG wrote:No I'm not.

Doing his nails

by MBTGOG Sat 15 Oct 2011, 3:42 pm

Put them all out to pasture As.

I understand the difference with officiating in red zones but what really gets my goat is the amount of calls of the ball being "unplayable" when time is up on the clock yet I say is never called at any other point in the game.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 3:43 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:My views on the correctness or otherwise of the red card remain unchanged, so I'd ask folk not to comment in that vein. My question is to do with refereeing consistency - a number of commentators have suggested that the red today should not have happened cos it spoiled the game as a spectacle, or cos it was a semi-final, or cos Warburton has an excellent disciplinary record. All daft comments, imo. Much like trying to suggest that a game towards the back end of a season between two title contenders somehow deserves a better standard of officiating that a meaningless one in the depths of winter between two sides in the lower half of the table. But equally most referees seem to control the game entirely differently when close to the try line versus anywhere else on the pitch and also offer an alternative interpretation of the rules if the game is in the last 5 mins compared to the previous 75mins. How should this sort of inconsistency be handled?

How can it be handled??? By you stopping talking toilet as per usual

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 3:51 pm

Aye, you can Run

, but you can't hide furious

by MBTGOG Sat 15 Oct 2011, 3:54 pm

I know it is said over and over again but the laws really need to be simplified and somehow put more onus on the players and less responsibility on the referee.

Also, there is no way of doing this that I know but commentators must stop acting as referee assessors. No problem if they get it right but that is not the case quite often.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 3:59 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Aye, you can , but you can't hide

You know where I am, actually ill even come to you

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:00 pm

It does seem that there has been an unusually high degree of comment on refereeing performances (Welsh kick & Barnes, Owens in Samoa-RSA game, Barnes and Contepomi offside, Lawrence full-stop, and today's effort) - bit of a shame, has detracted from some of the excellent off-field spectacle that some players have tried to provide (thanks England, mainly!!) Wink

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:01 pm

hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Aye, you can , but you can't hide

You know where I am, actually ill even come to you

Excellent, Royal Free hospital is less than half a mile away - i'll book you in now boxing

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:02 pm

hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Aye, you can , but you can't hide

You know where I am, actually ill even come to you

PS. None of your usual cheap shots when my back is turned will be tolerated

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:03 pm

Portnoy wrote:English is (ironically) the lingua franca of most international sports. Football must be far and away the most difficult to get it right. How do they do it?

Easy. Even morons in every country on Earth can say:

"Ah FFS Ref!"

"Offside! De phhoker was OFFSIDE!"

"Peno ref!"

"He tossed my hair on purpose Ref!"

"He dived ref! The cheatin Italian/Spanish/ South American basterd! "

Ref: "Enough of that language Pedro or your off!"

Sorted. guinness

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:07 pm

Highlights on ITV1 now in a bit...going to watch them, and the full match is on S4C later.... Smile

by **Notch** Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:08 pm

I don't know if I'd watch it again. Ireland vs Wales was a much better game, this was a bit of a letdown.

by Mick(TEFC) Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:11 pm

If a prerequisite to becoming a ref and rugby player was to understand international sign language(gestuno) then all talk of ...

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:11 pm

Well I'm watching it to see what I missed watching a screen from across the pitch! Smile

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:15 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Aye, you can , but you can't hide

You know where I am, actually ill even come to you
Excellent, Royal Free hospital is less than half a mile away - i'll book you in now

I'll crush you like a worrrrruummm

by Mick(TEFC) Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:16 pm

I haven't seen it yet, it's on at 9 here;but from what I've read and heard,I don't think I'll bother,seen the highlights that'll do me.
second half of RCT / Usap atm,17-0 for Toulon at the oranges.
Coq au vin for dinner this evening Run

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:18 pm

hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Aye, you can , but you can't hide

You know where I am, actually ill even come to you
Excellent, Royal Free hospital is less than half a mile away - i'll book you in now

I'll crush you like a worrrrruummm

You're not too big to put across my knee, young man mad

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:19 pm

Adam Jones just off Crying or Very sad

I hope his injury wasn't serious.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:23 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
hughie1986 wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Aye, you can , but you can't hide

You know where I am, actually ill even come to you
Excellent, Royal Free hospital is less than half a mile away - i'll book you in now

I'll crush you like a worrrrruummm
You're not too big to put across my knee, young man

Don't make promises you canny keep son.

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:26 pm

Oh get a room ye two. Hug

Huggser, As tells me we are sharing a bed in Nov.

I'll never forget Belfast. You were magnificent.

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:27 pm

...and you got a toastie off Hughie afterwards Gibbo... Laugh

by red_stag Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:27 pm

Agree with points.made by Munsty and Asbo. I think poor commentary is making refereeing much harder and creating confusion where none existed

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:29 pm

Gibson wrote:Oh get a room ye two.

Huggser, As tells me we are sharing a bed in Nov.

I'll never forget Belfast. You were magnificent.

News to me Gibbo but I'm not fussy you know that, all I require is a bit of a cuddle and breakfast in the morning

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:33 pm

Sportguru Heino pools can now be cretated

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:33 pm

Nah I'd love it pal. But MrsG is coming as well.

And, I hear you are The Man for Gordon Blue brekkies. The 2 x Micks rave about em.

Can't wait. Haven't seen you in ages. Should be some craic that weekend.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:35 pm

Aye aye I am aye Gibbo, fattened Rava up on them as well a couple of times, quiet tasty

by **oxring** Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:36 pm

Consistency would be hugely appreciated.

If Warburton's tackle becomes an automatic red - across the board, fine. It would be a great shame and spoil the sport as it would decrease the speed of contact - and as Piennar said - this is a collision game.

However - when you look back over the world cup - worse tackles have got away with less. I can deal with wrong decisions - as long as they are consistently wrong.

Few points for thought.

1. Vincent Clerc has now been "spear tackled" twice this world cup. He has also rolled around the floor after all manner of contact indiscretions. Much of this comes down to his woeful contact skills. When hit and hit hard, he is very happy to lift his legs up. Either that, or he is so quick that momentum always makes him vulnerable to being up-ended. I have seen him win penalties for similar offences many times. Obviously, he did milk the penalty when he hit the floor - and tried to milk another later in the game. However - I'd be interested to see some stats about penalties "won" by Clerc across all games. He does seem to be a repeated "candidate" for spear tackles.

2. Alain Rolland is a mortgage advisor, according to Mullins before the start of the game. That would be fine, but we're about to enter our 17th year of professionalism. The players are fitter and quicker and the stakes higher than ever before. How then, can the refereeing still be at an amateur level? Either we need more amateur refs or professional referees for international rugby.

Standards need improvement. Most people have been left talking about the referee's decision, rather than what was a great game, along with one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen.

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:37 pm

Cari wrote:...and you got a toastie off Hughie afterwards Gibbo...

Not so much a toastie Cari... more a limp, semi-warm - biscuit... But it looked well pressed and turned out like.

Presentation is everything.

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:39 pm

I love that guy Faletau. Fantastic player.

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:39 pm

Phillips' try was class....not keen on the finger pointy thingy but I suppose he couldn't help himself...

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:40 pm

Yeah he's great Gibbo....had a great game. Anyone know who the MOTM was?

by Thomond Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:40 pm

I'd say Hughie's breakfast is over rated. Nothing compared to what I served up last week for the family. Rashers, sausages, pudding, toast fresh OJ, mushrooms,eggs and beans.

Beat that Hughie. Wink

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:42 pm

No no no! My breakfasts are bestest...although I'm the only person who's eaten them! laughing

Mickado does a nice fry up too.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:43 pm

Eggs Benedict are my speciality T, with homemade Hollendaise Sauce

by Thomond Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:45 pm

Can't stand hollendaise sauce. BBQ sauce is the berries. Homemade it can be amah-zing but it takes a lot of time.

by WillyGilly Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:47 pm

oxring wrote:

1. Vincent Clerc has now been "spear tackled" twice this world cup. He has also rolled around the floor after all manner of contact indiscretions. Much of this comes down to his woeful contact skills. When hit and hit hard, he is very happy to lift his legs up. Either that, or he is so quick that momentum always makes him vulnerable to being up-ended. I have seen him win penalties for similar offences many times. Obviously, he did milk the penalty when he hit the floor - and tried to milk another later in the game. However - I'd be interested to see some stats about penalties "won" by Clerc across all games. He does seem to be a repeated "candidate" for spear tackles.

What absolute horseshit. Wales were the better side and deserved to go through. Take that to the pub with you tonight. Don't attack the french players for diving. Silly nonsense.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:48 pm

Na bbq sauce is easy T, its handy cause you can just leave it to do itself

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:48 pm

But T. A key point of order... did you actually squeeze the oranges yerself?

Otherwise, Im not interested. Us Clogs have high-standards.

Christ. Wales could have so easily won this with 14 men. Incredible. France were out on their feet. Another 5 mins and it was Wales game.

A testament to their fitness.

"France thro with the help of an Irish ref?!"

You complete dick Doyle. Pathetic.

by Glas a du Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:52 pm

Bonnaire.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:52 pm

Gibson wrote:But T. A key point of order... did you actually squeeze the oranges yerself?

Otherwise, Im not interested. Us Clogs have high-standards.

Christ. Wales could have so easily won this with 14 men. Incredible. France were out on their feet. Another 5 mins and it was Wales game.

A testament to their fitness.

"France thro with the help of an Irish ref?!"

You complete dick Doyle. Pathetic.

Between his cheeks! Wink

by Thomond Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:52 pm

Yup, Gibbo. The old fashioned way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj1QnijwxtY I did it with a gizmo we have but it involves manual work.

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:53 pm

I'm not watching it, can't stand to listen to them complain about a correct call. I'm watching the gymnastics on BBC instead

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:53 pm

Welsh players showing a lot of class here. clap

by Cari Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:56 pm

Welsh players blubbing....I can't hack seeing that Crying or Very sad

Fairdo's to Warburton though. In his post-match press conference he's not moaning, just accepted it. Top boy.

by Gibson Sat 15 Oct 2011, 4:56 pm

Fair enough T. Thats class. When I'm in Cork next... Im droppin in for brekkie.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 15 Oct 2011, 5:01 pm

Gibson wrote:Oh get a room ye two.

Huggser, As tells me we are sharing a bed in Nov.

I'll never forget Belfast. You were magnificent.

Nah, Gib, you and Mo get a room all to yerselves - Hoog will be in the greenhouse - hmm, hope it's not too cold in mid-Dec like - they're saying its going to be a hard winter - oh well!! Very Happy

by Suspicious lurker Sat 15 Oct 2011, 5:02 pm

Few whiskeys and ill be grand As

by Thomond Sat 15 Oct 2011, 5:04 pm

Join the queue Gibbo. I'm heading for an American brekkie next week actually should be interesting.

by Glas a du Sat 15 Oct 2011, 5:07 pm

Right, bugger it, snap decision, I'm taking my daughter to see the Scarlets.

by Thomond Sat 15 Oct 2011, 5:08 pm

Anyone know if there's rugby on the box tonight?

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