The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the Virtual Rugby Pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the pictures of Jonathan Davies (JD2), and all of the weekend's 6 Nations debutants above the bar!





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Like I say luckless, I certainly don't agree with it. The worst thing is when you see the attitudes at this level of the game mirrored at the grassroots where people are playing purely for "enjoyment".

I hadn't thought of that, Glas, but it's not a bad idea. Cardiff will be heaving, though!

Yes. That's why you need old codgers (naming no names) to remind us constantly about the higher ideals of sport.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I hadn't thought of that, Glas, but it's not a bad idea. Cardiff will be heaving, though!

Good!

Glas a du wrote:PM for Stag.

Lucky (and any other regs for that matter), are you about in Cardiff for the France match? Mini pub meet is a possibility. Stag is over I know. Tickets are like gold dust already so it may be a case of picking our pub to watch it as a gang. What do you think?

We'll be there

I was hoping you'd organise it

Oh, well if Penfro's going, I'm definitely not.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I'm all for positive thinking, but I'd say that that kind of stubborn self-delusion in the face of the evidence - 'We're better than any other team' - is more likely to lead to complacency than to an improvement on the field. 'We can be better than any other team' is healthy. There's nothing wrong with admitting that a better side has beaten you. That gives you the motivation to improve.

Yep, thats why I'm annoyed. I disagree with Munsty. The best teams look at themselves when they lose like this. You can't turn the corner if you can't be honest about your level of performance. How do they improve for next week if they won't acknowledge their deficiencies?

Glas a du wrote:

I was hoping you'd organise it

You've twisted my arm then

Lucky -

I think when you have a character like POC in your team, you can use this loss to catapult you to greater things. France will face a big Irish backlash. Just don't bring that out of the dressing room and on to national media FFS!

Notch wrote:

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I'm all for positive thinking, but I'd say that that kind of stubborn self-delusion in the face of the evidence - 'We're better than any other team' - is more likely to lead to complacency than to an improvement on the field. 'We can be better than any other team' is healthy. There's nothing wrong with admitting that a better side has beaten you. That gives you the motivation to improve.

Yep, thats why I'm annoyed. I disagree with Munsty. The best teams look at themselves when they lose like this. You can't turn the corner if you can't be honest about your level of performance. How do they improve for next week if they won't acknowledge their deficiencies?

They do acknowledge it Notch but we don't see that on the outside.

Only pulling your leg, Penfro. I actually think it's a great idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNLLJz4Ajw

MBTGOG wrote:

Notch wrote:

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I'm all for positive thinking, but I'd say that that kind of stubborn self-delusion in the face of the evidence - 'We're better than any other team' - is more likely to lead to complacency than to an improvement on the field. 'We can be better than any other team' is healthy. There's nothing wrong with admitting that a better side has beaten you. That gives you the motivation to improve.

Yep, thats why I'm annoyed. I disagree with Munsty. The best teams look at themselves when they lose like this. You can't turn the corner if you can't be honest about your level of performance. How do they improve for next week if they won't acknowledge their deficiencies?

They do acknowledge it Notch but we don't see that on the outside.

Probably true. Kidney is a very 'in-house' coach. I see Hurley and Jennings have been released from the Ireland squad. I hope Henry, Tuohy and Wallace are released for Ulster on Thursday... assuming they aren't picked. I assume they won't be.

Dan Tuohy tweeted me once. Just saying.

How's the Mam Penfro?

Henry might be if the iRB continues on its ludicrous crusade against tackling and Ferris gets banned.

Cari wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNLLJz4Ajw

Come ere

Diolch Glas. Duw, it's hard

As for the Wales/France meet up, say when and where and I'll turn up.

MBTGOG wrote:Henry might be if the iRB continues on its ludicrous crusade against tackling and Ferris gets banned.

Ferris wont get banned, the yellow was enough, although I'd have settled for the penalty for what was a dangerous tackle.

By the way all tip tackles are dangerous, but not all dangerous tackles are tip. Just thought I would clear that up.

Glas a du wrote:

Rava wrote:According to the BBC, Davies and FERRIS have been cited!!

Six Nations: Wales' Bradley Davies cited for tip tackle against Ireland

Six Nations organisers have confirmed that Wales lock Bradley Davies has been cited for the tip tackle that saw him sin-binned in the victory over Ireland .
Davies upended Donnacha Ryan in the 65th minute, earning a yellow card from referee Wayne Barnes, but Gatland admitted he should have been dismissed.
The Cardiff Blue faces a disciplinary hearing on Wednesday, 8 February.
"I think there's intent and if you look at that and ask me, there's definitely an intent in there," said Gatland.
"So I wouldn't argue with the decision of that being given a red card."
Italian citing commissioner Achille Reali had until 1700 GMT on Tuesday to confirm a citing. Reali has also cited Ireland flanker Stephen Ferris following his sin-binning in the wake of the tip tackle on Wales lock Ian Evans that gave Leigh Halfpenny the chance to kick the winning penalty.

What about Ryan? The problem with him not being cited is that what he did wrong will only now be considered as part of the Davies proceedings and may result in an over-shortening of his ban.

Honestly, the words pifsup and brewery come to mind.

Glas, perhaps the citing commissioner didn't believe that Ryan did do anything wrong?

Notch, much as you and I love PW I really don't see the benefit of him being in the Ireland squad.
When Earls withdrew and Les Kiss was commenting on McFadden taking his place and other options, Wallace wasn't even mentioned.

Personally I think he would be better off training with our squad.

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Glas a du wrote:

Rava wrote:According to the BBC, Davies and FERRIS have been cited!!

Six Nations: Wales' Bradley Davies cited for tip tackle against Ireland

Six Nations organisers have confirmed that Wales lock Bradley Davies has been cited for the tip tackle that saw him sin-binned in the victory over Ireland .
Davies upended Donnacha Ryan in the 65th minute, earning a yellow card from referee Wayne Barnes, but Gatland admitted he should have been dismissed.
The Cardiff Blue faces a disciplinary hearing on Wednesday, 8 February.
"I think there's intent and if you look at that and ask me, there's definitely an intent in there," said Gatland.
"So I wouldn't argue with the decision of that being given a red card."
Italian citing commissioner Achille Reali had until 1700 GMT on Tuesday to confirm a citing. Reali has also cited Ireland flanker Stephen Ferris following his sin-binning in the wake of the tip tackle on Wales lock Ian Evans that gave Leigh Halfpenny the chance to kick the winning penalty.

What about Ryan? The problem with him not being cited is that what he did wrong will only now be considered as part of the Davies proceedings and may result in an over-shortening of his ban.

Honestly, the words pifsup and brewery come to mind.

Glas, perhaps the citing commissioner didn't believe that Ryan did do anything wrong?

You're right. Acting like a tool is not a citing matter apparently. However, I don't know how accurate this is, but some of the Welsh boys said Pearson had only recommended yellow because of Ryan's actions. Did that come over on the ref mic?

Cari wrote:Diolch Glas. Duw, it's hard

As for the Wales/France meet up, say when and where and I'll turn up.

Hey!! Don't forget the trips to Belfast. . New horizons

Rava - now I'm really depressed!!

No!

He didn't mention what lead to the attack at all that I heard.

Glas a du wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:Henry might be if the iRB continues on its ludicrous crusade against tackling and Ferris gets banned.

Ferris wont get banned, the yellow was enough, although I'd have settled for the penalty for what was a dangerous tackle.

By the way all tip tackles are dangerous, but not all dangerous tackles are tip. Just thought I would clear that up.

You never know with the citing panels. You can never guess what they'll do.

Rava wrote:Notch, much as you and I love PW I really don't see the benefit of him being in the Ireland squad.
When Earls withdrew and Les Kiss was commenting on McFadden taking his place and other options, Wallace wasn't even mentioned.

Well he's not a 13. But I agree, if he's not going to be picked. Normally after D'Arcy played like that you'd expect him to be in with a chance, but we all know D'Arcy has played far worse and kept his place.

EDIT; Anyway he won't be released until the last minute because he has a central contract.

And,

It wasn't a dangerous tackle.

Glas a du wrote:You're right. Acting like a tool is not a citing matter apparently. However, I don't know how accurate this is, but some of the Welsh boys said Pearson had only recommended yellow because of Ryan's actions. Did that come over on the ref mic?

I think thats BS to be honest, Ryans 'actions' were never mentioned by any of the officials at any time.

MrsP wrote:No!

He didn't mention what lead to the attempted murder at all that I heard.

Fixed that Mrs P.

MrsP wrote:And,

It wasn't a dangerous tackle.

I love you.

Rava wrote:

MrsP wrote:No!

He didn't mention what lead to the attempted murder at all that I heard.

Fixed that Mrs P.

I love you too.

Isn't it funny though Notch, Paddy Wallace doesn't play but the Ireland fans still have it in for us Ulstermen!

Glas - PM

Get a room.

WillyGilly wrote:Get a room.

I was waiting in Dublin, but she never came...

You musn't have been doing it right then!

My apologies, it was there I just had to use it...

They never come to mine.

WillyGilly wrote:My apologies, it was there I just had to use it...

Not at all young man

MBTGOG wrote:They never come to mine.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on. Hughie says your an animal out on the pull.

Glas

Glas a du wrote:Isn't it funny though Notch, Paddy Wallace doesn't play but the Ireland fans still have it in for us Ulstermen!

Absolutely man. Absolutely

I don't really know whats going on tbh?

A very productive morning in terms of networking. Feeling pleased with myself.

I've had a very unproductive day - but then I'm back in work tomorrow, up to my eyes most probably.

Afternoon all.

I haven't had a minute to myself to review the "actions" that led to Davies Tip Tackling.

what is it he is supposed to have done to warrant nearly ending a players career?

I see Cardiff Blues will play Connacht at the Arms Park on Friday night.

Cari, you should get yourself along to that. Niall O'Connor will probably be playing

I was talking to a rugby pundit today through work who suggested that Ireland should be playing the following backline against France.

09 Conor Murray
10 Jonathan Sexton
11 Keith Earls
12 JAMES DOWNEY
13 TOMMY BOWE
14 Andrew Trimble
15 Rob Kearney